Skip to comments.New Details Emerge Showing George Zimmerman Wasn't Defending Himself When He Shot Trayvon Martin
Posted on 03/18/2012 4:35:27 PM PDT by redreno
According to new details, Sanford police are being accused of altering the statements of witnesses to the incident when Trayvon Martin was shot by neighborhood crime watch captain George Zimmerman.
17 year old Trayvon Martin has been walking back from a local 7-11 with snacks for himself and his father in Sanford during the NBA All Star Game on Feb 26th, when he was following by a car being driven by George Zimmerman, who did call the police non-emergency number to report a suspicious person. According the the recordings, Zimmerman stated the person was suspicious because he was wearing a hoodie and walking too slow in his opinion in the rain.
During the phone call to police he was recorded as saying, "these a..holes always get away."
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You must have been listening to CNN tonight.
We had a guy with this mentality in my CHL class. Charles Bronson fantasies to the nth degree. They do exist.
I read that Zimmerman has a concealed carry permit...patiently waiting for the anti-gun crowd to use this one isolated incident for political gain.
they were fighting, on the ground with the youth on top. Zimmerman had a head would and bleeding from the nose. Was there a struggle for the gun? Was zimmerman in fear of further severe head injury? etc etc
They do exist.
I will wait to see the court case. It should go before a court. Just like when a cop shoots or tazes or beats a citizen under questionable circumstances. This case should go to court.
Without a doubt. However, I’m not a court of law and therefor I’m allowed judge guilt or innocence in my own mind long before a trial. Everything I’ve seen or read thus far leads me to believe that this kid died for nothing. Should I turn out to be wrong, I’ll be happy to say so.
I am wondering how long it will take for Holder/Obama to make this into a national political issue
I am wondering how Mr. Zimmerman is going to explain how he stopped the "yute" and ended up getting engaged in a fight. A police officer has to have reasonable suspicion of a crime before he can detain somebody.
Imagine if you were a teenager walking home from the 7-11 and a person, that wasn't a cop, jumped out of his car and told you to stop. My kids have been trained to think that guy is a child molester.
We’re hearing the 9-1-1 calls on the Orlando stations with every news broadcast. If I was sitting on a jury he’d be toast. This guy is gonna need a helluva lawyer to get out of this one. And that neighborhood watch is going to need a serious overhaul.
It gets better. The boy was tested for drugs and alcohol - negative. Mr. Zimmerman was not tested.
Stand your ground doesn’t allow you to follow someone then get out of your car and shoot them.
It’s my understanding that he wasn’t a member of any formal neighborhood watch. He basically was his own, self-appointed one-man watch.
As long as you didn't provoke or invite the conflict, you have no duty to retreat from a life-threatening conflict. Legally you may stand your ground and kill the aggressor. (State v. Helm, 209 P.2d 187 (1990))In this case it is clear from the pictures and the audio track being played over and over that they boy was not the aggressor and that he was the one begging for help.
This clown could end up setting back gun rights but it the meanwhile he is bringing the race-pimp circus to town and damned if they don't have a reason this time.
I’m all for self defense, but this Zimmerman sounds like he was trigger happy. He deliberately disregarded the 9-11 operator and started a confrontation with a teenager just because he was wearing a hoodie and walking in the rain. The victim was buying candy. I didn’t realize that was a crime.
Liberals have cried racism and law enforcement misconduct when it didn’t apply for so long, it’s hard to tell the false from the true at first. But those thinigs still do happen and this appears to be one of those cases.
It seems to me anyone who's driving a car and tries to stop someone without benefit of a uniform and badge is going to get a fight. One reason I don't think undercover cops should ever be allowed to arrest anyone, arrests should always be made by uniformed officers. Undercover is for collecting intel, nothing more.
A police officer has to have reasonable suspicion of a crime before he can detain somebody.
This guy has a recorded telephone converstation with cops, which will make it easier to figure out the truth of what happened in court. He does not have the protection of the Union, fellow cop liars and he has the Klan with a Tan chasing him with a noose.
It sounds like there is enough of a problem that it should go to court. What, do you want him hanged in the street by the klan with a tan?
Sounds like the black kid was chased down and shot after a struggle. The white dude IMO committed murder or at least manslaughter.
But this story is still young so more info may come out to help Zimmerman. Cant imagine what it could be though.
The AP is also pushing this angle. Does anyone doubt that AP will attempt to put the worst spin they can on a CCW holder's actions?
I do not know exactly what happened, but the police have repeatedly said that the physical evidence has been consistent with the self defense account that Zimmerman gave.
To come to another conclusion requires a significant conspiracy theory. Consider that the police are under intense pressure to be politically correct.
About 30 years ago I was a twitch away from having my head blown off by a cop.
Visiting my parents in SW Colorado and walked over to the nearby 7-11. There had been a mass escape from the NM penitentiary and I closely matched the description (white, brown hair, average height, stocky build, T-shirt, jeans) of one of the suspects who had murdered a convenience store clerk earlier that day about 50 miles away. Of course, so did probably at least a million men in the country.
I had a paperback book making a bulge in my hip pocket. I was standing looking at the magazines and the poor girl behind the counter thought the bulge was a gun and I was waiting for the others in the store to leave so I could rob and kill her.
The bell on the door rang as new customers entered, but I wasn’t paying attention. Suddenly I had something cold against my neck (shotgun barrel) and a couple of cops grabbed me. Had I jumped or twitched I would have been dead.
Nobody’s fault, the (by then hysterical) clerk had every reason to believe I was the guy, the cops did what they should have. I wasn’t doing anything wrong at all but still could have wound up dead on the floor.
One reason such confrontations should be left to those with training. They don’t always do it right, but they’re more likely to do so than random citizens, especially those with Rambo or Death Wish type fantasy lives.
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