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Mitt approached Santorum, Newt about possible late entrants [BROKERED CONVENTION ON THEIR MIND]
Politico ^ | 3/17/12 | ALEXANDER BURNS

Posted on 03/19/2012 5:41:05 AM PDT by God-fear-republican

On Saturday, March 3, Romney stood with Santorum and Gingrich on the floor of a shuttered DHL warehouse in Wilmington, Ohio, ....The three candidates discussed the nominating process. Romney raised the possibility of an unvetted candidate getting into the race and spoke of the perils such a scenario presented for the party. Not surprisingly, the other two assented and each agreed that he would reserve his support for someone now in the race. R.C. Hammond, a spokesman for Gingrich, said the consensus that emerged from the conversation was that the Republican nominee was among “the four of us” and not an outsider. Eric Fehrnstrom, a senior Romney adviser, agreed with that characterization.

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KEYWORDS: elections; kenyanbornmuzzie; mittromney; newt; newtgingrich; ricksantorum; romney; santorum
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1 posted on 03/19/2012 5:41:19 AM PDT by God-fear-republican
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To: God-fear-republican

Do convention rules for the Republican party allow someone who did not officially run for President to be considered at the convention?


2 posted on 03/19/2012 5:43:35 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: God-fear-republican

Jeb


3 posted on 03/19/2012 5:45:37 AM PDT by Obadiah (We are all Brietbarts now.)
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To: God-fear-republican

please...

Palin, West, Perry....even the formerly unvetted Cain are all better than we have in the current crop.


4 posted on 03/19/2012 5:46:49 AM PDT by Vaquero ("Sic semper tyrannis")
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To: tbw2
Rules, Schmules.

We're talking power here, there are no "rules" except power.

5 posted on 03/19/2012 5:47:15 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Typed using <FONT STYLE=SARCASM> unless otherwise noted)
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To: Aevery_Freeman

Well said.


6 posted on 03/19/2012 5:47:58 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: Vaquero
With Sheriff Joe as VP! (snicker)
7 posted on 03/19/2012 5:49:19 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Typed using <FONT STYLE=SARCASM> unless otherwise noted)
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To: tbw2

Yes but its pointless to think about since Mitt will be the nominee in a brokered convention. Its all about Mitt picking his running mate.


8 posted on 03/19/2012 5:49:19 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: tbw2

Definitely.

But I don’t know how one is nominated. I believe after first round of voting, if there is no nominee, all the delegates will vote again and again until someone get 51% delegates. After 1st round, I believe all delegates become unbound meaning they can vote for anybody. In one Democrat brokered convention ( I forgot the year), they voted 106 times in 16 days to finally get someone nominated with 51% delegates. Just like electing a pope.


9 posted on 03/19/2012 5:50:28 AM PDT by God-fear-republican
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To: God-fear-republican
"spoke of the perils such a scenario presented for the party"

ROFL

Who gives a CRAP about a "Party" that cares not about what principled Conservatives are pissed about, being FORCED to choose between Establishment Elitists that are hand-picked mushy Liberals, calling themselves "Republicans" and TRYING TO CONVINCE voters that they are Conservative?

The Republican Party itself KNOWS they are in deep doo-doo with their RINO picks of Candidates at all levels, and the game of basically choosing between a Liberal "D" and a Liberal "R" has reached the breaking point. While Corporate intersts (and Union interests) are the only donations filling their coffers along with favored constituencies that are bought-off with Taxpayer money, they are afraid of the NUMBERS of flyover-country voters who actually THINK about who they vote for, and don't vote straight-Party tickets anymore.

10 posted on 03/19/2012 5:51:45 AM PDT by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: God-fear-republican

Here is the GOP’s “conservative” choices:

C Christie
J Bush
M Bloomberg
D Trump


11 posted on 03/19/2012 5:52:00 AM PDT by Leep (Dueling tag lines=don't worry,you'll be a vegetable guy soon<>It's gonna be a Newt day!)
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To: Vaquero

Sarah and Col Allen West is the perfect ticket, they are qualified, have guts to take the left on, takes the left talking points out that we hate blacks or women, brings FL to our side which we need and we have a military guy but also right now we have an energy issue and who better than Sarah.

SARAH AND COL ALLEN WEST 2012


12 posted on 03/19/2012 5:53:04 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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To: tbw2

Delegates selected from the various states are bound to support the candidate to whom they are pledged through the first ballot. “Super” delegates, those who get a vote via power or party position, can vote their heart or pocketbook from the beginning.

A basket of pledged delegates gives a candidate some bargaining power, and those delegates do more than just vote for the nominee. There are planks and platforms and party rules to be determined, and the candidate with the most voting delegates naturally has control in those areas.

If no one wins nomination on the first ballot, anyone’s name can be put into nomination. That’s when the wheeling and dealing and smoky backrooms and arm twisting could get interesting.

As one who has watched this process in the old gavel-to-gavel days, it can be great fun for a spectator. However, this year politics isn’t fun, because we stand to lose not just an election but our way of life if the Republican Party doesn’t unite.

My opinion.


13 posted on 03/19/2012 5:53:05 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: God-fear-republican

No. The smoke isn’t white. ;)


14 posted on 03/19/2012 5:55:17 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: tbw2
Do convention rules for the Republican party allow someone who did not officially run for President to be considered at the convention?

Yes, but I think Harding was an actual candidate in 1920, as was Coolidge, but neither were among the stronger candidates. The leading candidates were General Leonard Wood, IL Governor Frank Lowden, and someone else.

15 posted on 03/19/2012 5:55:49 AM PDT by Theodore R. (I'm pretty sure the American people will again let us down in this election cycle.)
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To: cripplecreek
I don't see how it can be otherwise. These four guys have been out there pounding the campaign ground for almost a year. To have someone who has sat back on the sidelines swoop in and take the nomination would be unbelievably cruel and unfair and I doubt well-received by the electorate. Now I know many on FR aren't thrilled with the field and I'll probably be flamed for saying this, but these are the guys who have put themselves and their families (unfortunately, but that is the world we live in, at least for 'Pubs) on the line in a very hostile political and media environment, have answered the call and stood up to give it their best shot. Anyone who hasn't can't really be in a position to make a case for themselves.
16 posted on 03/19/2012 5:57:27 AM PDT by chimera
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To: Obadiah

Jeb?

What’s your point?


17 posted on 03/19/2012 6:03:21 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: God-fear-republican

If Mitt is the nominee (shudder) he will almost have to pick Santorum or West in order to win. Just MHO. Palin would just be too much of a distraction for the press to chew on.


18 posted on 03/19/2012 6:03:43 AM PDT by MomwithHope (Buy and read Ameritopia by Mark Levin!)
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To: God-fear-republican

After 1st round, I believe all delegates become unbound meaning they can vote for anybody.


Rules vary from state to state as to how and when their delegates are released.

Example of GA rules:

Georgia Code § 21-2-196: “... a delegate or ... shall file a qualification oath ... pledging support ... to the candidate ... for the office of President ... for whom they are selected to support. The oath shall state that the delegate ... affirms to support such candidate until the candidate is either nominated ... or receives less than 35 percent of the votes for nomination ..., or until the candidate releases the delegates.... No delegate shall be required to vote for such candidate after two convention nominating ballots...”

Georgia Code § 21-2-197: “Any delegate to a national convention whose presidential candidate withdraws ... shall be an unpledged delegate ...”

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P12/GA-R#0306


19 posted on 03/19/2012 6:04:15 AM PDT by deport (..............God Bless Texas............)
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To: God-fear-republican
If its not Sarah than they are just wasting their time.

I hope Romney gets the Clue that the Republican voters don't want him, he keeps getting delegates trough Shenanigans and winning Liberal States, the States that will actually vote for the Republican in November DON'T WANT HIM!

20 posted on 03/19/2012 6:06:28 AM PDT by KC_Lion (I will NEVER vote for Romney, the GOP will go the way of the Whigs if they nominate him)
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To: Vaquero
Palin, West, Perry....even the formerly unvetted Cain are all better than we have in the current crop.

The Republicans sure are effectiving at uprooting and throwing out their prime crop, aren't they? Bachmann, Perry, Cain... hell, even Pawlenty.. all better than the scraps we're left with now.

21 posted on 03/19/2012 6:08:19 AM PDT by ScottinVA (A single drop of American blood for muslims is one drop too many!)
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To: Vaquero
Palin, West, Perry....even the formerly unvetted Cain are all better than we have in the current crop.

I'm a Sarah guy, but neither she nor West got in and Perry and Cain got out, so no, they are not better than the current crop.

You might prefer them to those still running, but no way to objectively call them better.

You are entitled to your incorrect opinion and while I'd have loved to see Sarah run, for what ever reason, she didn't and therefore is not better than even mittens {as much as that sticks in my throat}.

22 posted on 03/19/2012 6:08:28 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorists savages.)
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To: God-fear-republican

Still scared of Sarah - and she is completely vetted. I wonder what promised Mittens made?


23 posted on 03/19/2012 6:10:53 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Limbaugh: Tim Tebow miracle: "He had atheists praying to God that he would lose.")
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To: chimera

The man with the most delegates isn’t going to simply step aside.

People with the fantasy of the perfect candidate suddenly appearing as the nominee may as well hope for magical unicorns.


24 posted on 03/19/2012 6:11:36 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: chimera

I’d have little to no respect for a candidate who didn’t have the courage to step into the grueling primary process but was willing to be whisked in as the nominee on a free ride, stepping over the others who were pummeled over the past 9 months.


25 posted on 03/19/2012 6:12:34 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: USS Alaska

if it goes to a brokered convention.

all bets can be off for the current crop.

you might want to rethink your incorrect opinion.


26 posted on 03/19/2012 6:13:13 AM PDT by Vaquero ("Sic semper tyrannis")
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To: Leep

They’ve also been pushing Mitch Daniels, who doesn’t impress me.


27 posted on 03/19/2012 6:16:14 AM PDT by PghBaldy (Obama is afraid if he needs to start a fight with Catholics. He's losing the women vote!!!)
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To: Leep

How about - FRED DALTON THOMPSON?


28 posted on 03/19/2012 6:18:28 AM PDT by KMJames
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To: Aevery_Freeman
We're talking power here, there are no "rules" except power.

That has to change to correct our system. Start with term limits and remove all the incentives to stay around forever. Let congress participate in SS and fund their own retirement accounts like the rest of us; make them use the same healthcare system.

That will eliminate those who are solely there for personal gain and leave true public SERVANTS.

29 posted on 03/19/2012 6:23:08 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: ScottinVA
The Republicans sure are effectiving at uprooting and throwing out their prime crop, aren't they? Bachmann, Perry, Cain... hell, even Pawlenty.. all better than the scraps we're left with now.

It will always be the case until we decide we're not going to select our candidates based upon the MSM's terms.

I'm amazed at how quickly we still go into hysterics whenever the MSM rolls out one of their phony smear campaigns.

30 posted on 03/19/2012 6:24:57 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: KMJames
How about - FRED DALTON THOMPSON?

Mr National Popular Vote?

31 posted on 03/19/2012 6:25:40 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: KMJames

He turned out to be a mere vote splitter in order to split up the conservatives and help his long time friend mccain.


32 posted on 03/19/2012 6:27:25 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Jedidah

Very good info there, on yout post, and you seem to be very experienced.

You said ““Super” delegates, those who get a vote via power or party position, can vote their heart or pocketbook from the beginning.”

Since we all know who the “party position” superdelegates are - 128-odd state committeewomen, committeeme, and Chairs - could you please name the 40-odd “power position” delegates? Might be good to know, as these are the delegates who are going to actually determine who the nominee is going to be.


33 posted on 03/19/2012 6:29:19 AM PDT by ngat
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To: God-fear-republican
http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Lugar+Introduces+New+Energy+Climate+Change+joRLLQ3yR-bl.jpg
 
Relax people, help is on the way!
 
** Graham / Lugar 2012 **  Woohoooo!

34 posted on 03/19/2012 6:29:55 AM PDT by wolficatZ (:"TV is king, you're my everything..")
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To: God-fear-republican

Let’s just hope Newt at least is prepared to flip on the Flipper.


35 posted on 03/19/2012 6:31:45 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: God-fear-republican
Oh Yeah!

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36 posted on 03/19/2012 6:31:51 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascist info.. http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: KMJames
How about - FRED DALTON THOMPSON?

Fred is high on my list of those who would make good presidents. Unfortunately, I don't think he generates enough excitement in his campaign speeches. Sarah is high on my list, but she did not get enough backing from decent people when the disgusting leeches on the far left went after her children. She chose (perhaps wisely) to stay out for what I assume are family reasons. If she gets the nomination, I'll work for her campaign full time from the day she is nominated until the day real Americans win the last legal challenge from Obama's socialist fringe, but my impression is that the insiders would rather lose the election than lose the power they have as insiders. Cain, DeMint, Bachmann, and about 50 others would be good to great.

We have to back a good candidate, even when we discover, oh dear, that our candidate is imperfect. Of those left, I prefer Newt. He's personally sleazy, or at least he used to be, but he is capable of pushing back against some of the damage done by Obama. Other than Newt, I would not be too upset with a Santorum candidacy. I'm not convinced that Santorum is as fiscally conservative as our country needs, but at least he's neither socialist nor anti-American, which puts him two large steps ahead of Obama. As a third choice, I'd vote for a sack of manure over Obama. At least the manure is more or less harmless. And Romney? He ranks well below that sack of manure. I have seen no evidence that Romney would even be on our side. If he becomes president, we need a very conservative Congress to keep him from continuing Obama's drive to socialism.

37 posted on 03/19/2012 6:34:48 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Vaquero
if it goes to a brokered convention. all bets can be off for the current crop. you might want to rethink your incorrect opinion.

The first vote is committed delegates and can be directed by the candidates to whom they are committed.

The big three have committed that they will back only those in the race, so how does that include Sarah or West?

38 posted on 03/19/2012 6:37:19 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorists savages.)
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To: MomwithHope

West would be a good V.P. for a number of reasons....

(1) TEA Party people would be pleased

(2) The GOP would have a shot at peeling away part of the black vote (a small part, even 10%, would help)

(3) You would have a guy with military experience

(4) It would help the GOP carry Florida in November.

The downside: we would still have someone we don’t especially like at the top of the ticket.

How ‘bout Sarah Palin for Energy Secretary or head of the RNC....or both? And John Bolton as Secretary of State?
Ted Nugent as head of the BATF? Ron Paul as the head of the TSA?


39 posted on 03/19/2012 6:39:11 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (I'm NOT smitten' with Mittens)
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To: God-fear-republican
Doesn't having a brokered convention mean that the voters don't like anyone among the current choices?

It would seem logical that the best candidate would come from outside that field.

40 posted on 03/19/2012 6:40:16 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: God-fear-republican
a shuttered DHL warehouse

Sounds like the clandestine setting for a made-for-tv movie of the week.
41 posted on 03/19/2012 6:41:23 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: CaptainK
Agreed. The convention is so late that a person who didn't go through the primary campaigns would have little time to get known--while the media and the DNC would be busy turning him or her into a cross between Adolf Hitler and Cotton Mather. The last time a real outsider was nominated was 1940--and he lost.

A number of people look good on paper, but they are untested.

As Tacitus said of Galba: omnium consensu, capax imperii, nisi imperasset.

"In the opinion of everyone, capable of empire--if he had not been emperor."

42 posted on 03/19/2012 6:42:30 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: MomwithHope

A Romney/Santorum ticket would be a sure loser, and Romney knows it. He would pick a fellow abortionist like Christie, mark my words


43 posted on 03/19/2012 6:42:37 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Go Newt!)
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To: CaptainK

I’d have MORE respect for a candidate who was able to effectively bypass the media distortions and deceptions. It’s obvious there is no fair vetting of candidates by the media- just look at the pass given to candidate Barak.

A brokered convention may the NUCLEAR OPTION to marginalize the media...just a thought.


44 posted on 03/19/2012 6:44:52 AM PDT by KMJames
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To: USS Alaska

I’m hoping for Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny as running mates. I might as well, they stand about the same chance of being nominated in a brokered convention as Sarah Palin or Allen West.

In the real world, A brokered convention will give us Mitt Romney with someone else probably in the race as his running mate. Its possible that someone will be pulled in as Mitt’s running mate but I doubt anyone here will be thrilled with them.


45 posted on 03/19/2012 6:45:38 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek
Yes but its pointless to think about since Mitt will be the nominee in a brokered convention. Its all about Mitt picking his running mate.

It's been all about Mitt the entire time. We never really had a choice.

The first time I ever heard about Mitt being considered for President was back in 2000 when my son worked for a conservative congressman. The GOP-E had just begun vetting him. They have wanted him since then and they will get him, brokered convention or no brokered convention, Newt in or Newt out. Mitt is their guy and they won't be denied!

46 posted on 03/19/2012 6:51:33 AM PDT by CAluvdubya
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To: cripplecreek

Sarah Palin said Obama feared only Newt!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/07/sarah-palin-obama-newt-gingrich_n_1259718.html


47 posted on 03/19/2012 6:52:12 AM PDT by God-fear-republican
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To: God-fear-republican

ABO!! The survival of our Republic is hanging on a knife edge.


48 posted on 03/19/2012 6:52:30 AM PDT by jesseam
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To: God-fear-republican; Beckwith; Fred Nerks; LucyT

The RINOS fear the Tea Party and its Republican delegates to the convention. They hear the rumble of the Tea Party Train already.

The DNC is beginning to realize its “sum of fears.” The RINO faction of the GOP is being forced into a truly representative process, a thing the ruling class of the GOP fears to the point of trembling.

The question is whether they fear it enough to throw all their delegates behind one Rino faction candidate.


49 posted on 03/19/2012 6:53:24 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascist info.. http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: God-fear-republican

Does anyone in their right mind believe this?


50 posted on 03/19/2012 6:55:24 AM PDT by Hattie
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