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[Arab Muslim] Gunman kills 4 outside Jewish school in France
AP/Yahoo ^ | March 19, 2012

Posted on 03/19/2012 8:21:58 AM PDT by PRePublic

TOULOUSE, France (AP) — A motorcycle gunman opened fire Monday in front of a Jewish school in the French city of Toulouse, killing a rabbi, his two small sons and one other child, the prosecutor’s office said.
It was at least the third deadly motorcycle shooting in France in a week, shocking the country and prompting strong emotions and high-level discussions in Israel. French prosecutors were studying possible terrorist links, but the motive for Monday’s attack was unclear.

Concerns about a serial killer emerged, as investigators examined whether Monday’s shooting was linked to two deadly shooting attacks in the Toulouse region last week that killed three French paratroopers and left another seriously injured. French media reported those paratroopers were of Arab origin.

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Arab Muslim "gunman" massacres a Rabbi and 3 children outside Jewish school in Toulouse, France

Toulouse shooting: Jewish groups’ call for action after ‘anti semitic attack’
Telegraph.co.uk
Jewish groups in France and Europe have called for action after a gunman shot dead four people outside Jewish school in Toulouse.
Toulouse shooting: 4 dead and several injured by gunman at French ...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/9152992/Toulouse-shooting-Jewish-groups-call-for-action-after-anti-Semitic-attack.html

Daily Mail
Gunman Kills 4 at a Jewish School in France
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2117014/Toulouse-shooting-4-dead-injured-gunman-French-Jewish-school.html?ITO=google_news_rss_feed

New York Times
BBC News - France shooting: Toulouse Jewish school attack kills four
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Three children and a teacher have been killed by a gunman on a scooter who opened fire on a Jewish school in the French city of Toulouse.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-1742631

1 posted on 03/19/2012 8:22:06 AM PDT by PRePublic
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To: PRePublic

It’s just a coincidence that the attacker was Muslim and the victims were Jewish.

(Sarc)


2 posted on 03/19/2012 8:23:23 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (With regards to the GOP: I am prodisestablishmentarianistic!)
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To: PRePublic

This is what happens, when you allow 10% of the population to be Muslim.
There is no doubt in my mind that the murderer is an Islamic fanatic.


3 posted on 03/19/2012 8:26:05 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Tenacious 1

“the motive for Monday’s attack was unclear”

Only the idiots from AP can write such a spurious nonsense.
I despise those sellouts, “the useful idiots” of terrorists.


4 posted on 03/19/2012 8:28:43 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Tenacious 1

An Israeli visited the zoo where suddenly a lion escaped and took a small girl. The Israeli leaped into action, hit the lion, and rescued the girl. The next day, the newspaper reported, “Israeli aggressor beats African immigrant and steals his lunch.”

It’s not a question of whether the MSM will spin this, but how. Or they just won’t report it.


5 posted on 03/19/2012 8:29:09 AM PDT by MichaelNewton
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To: Marguerite

“There is no doubt in my mind that the murder is a muslim”

.... it is codified in the Koran. This is not fanaticism irrespective of the media’s sugar coating. He is just doing what his “religion” teaches him and all other muslims. He is not a fanatic, just a “good” muslim.

FUBO....I love that salutation!


6 posted on 03/19/2012 8:30:29 AM PDT by himno hero (Obamas theme...Death to America...The crusaders will pay!)
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To: PRePublic

stinking islam


7 posted on 03/19/2012 8:31:08 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: PRePublic

Did he murder them peacefully?


8 posted on 03/19/2012 8:31:35 AM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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“Rabbi Sandler of Kiryat Yovel in Jerusalem and his sons Aryeh, 6, and Gavriel, 3.5, were murdered in Toulouse Monday morning, as was 8 year-old Miriam Monsonegro, daughter of the director of Ozar HaTorah Toulouse, Yaacov Monsonego.

The Chief Rabbi of France, Gilles Bernheim, said he was “horrified” by what happened in Toulouse. “I am bruised in my body and my soul,” he added.

The shooting comes three days after three French paratroopers were shot dead by a man 30 km. from Toulouse. AP reported that two French paratroopers were shot in the town of Montauban, near Toulouse, on Friday, when a gunman on a black motorbike pulled up at a cash machine and opened fire. An 11.43 mm. weapon was used in that attack as well, according to the news reports.

Police saw a connection between those killings and to another deadly shooting of a soldier in Toulouse just over a week ago.”


9 posted on 03/19/2012 8:32:21 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: PRePublic

Why is everyone assuming it’s Muzzies at work? Come on! They’re really peaceful people always getting mistaken for those Rogue Amish Cults Of Death (RACOD) that no one wants to acknowledge.

Those wild-eyed Anabaptists of yesteryear have had an anti-Semitic streak going back thousands years!


10 posted on 03/19/2012 8:32:57 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: PRePublic

“Three children and a teacher have been killed by a gunman on a scooter who opened fire on a Jewish school in the French city of Toulouse.”

....The solution? Ban scooters.


11 posted on 03/19/2012 8:33:31 AM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: PRePublic
Dear Jews of Europe. The words "Never Again" resulted from a society which believed a fanatic and the result was the murders of millions of Jews. Well, "Never Again," is now "Again." And the pompous liberals who went around chastising others and saying "Never Again" are now the ones who support the people who want to kill you.

Jews were caught by surprise in WWII and resisted too late. It's past time to arm up and resist. But it's not too late.

12 posted on 03/19/2012 8:35:59 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: LyinLibs

If you ban scooters, then only criminals will have scooters.


13 posted on 03/19/2012 8:36:34 AM PDT by MichaelNewton
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To: himno hero

It’s In The Koran!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtePF8p-eIo


14 posted on 03/19/2012 8:42:52 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Marguerite
Cheradenine Zakalwe @ Islam v. Europe updates with another possible angle:
UPDATE: The French prosecutor has confirmed there are indications that the perpetrator is the same as in the previous shootings.

Le Point has a story about reports of a group of neo-Nazi sympathisers in the 17th Parachute Engineering Brigade, based in Montauban (considered part of the French special forces). Investigators are said to be following the "neo-nazi" track very keenly, based partly on the shooter's expertise in handling weapons and coolness under pressure. This fits perfectly with my previous speculation on the subject.

These neo-nazis had their photograph taken giving a Hitler salute in front of a swastika. This photograph was later published in Le Canard Enchaîné. Another French soldier made a complaint about them and they were later dismissed.

Either way, the horror of this event is still unfolding. Video: Shooting Outside Jewish school in Toulouse, France, At Least 5 Dead, Several Children Fighting for Their Lives


15 posted on 03/19/2012 8:45:38 AM PDT by wtd
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To: Enterprise

Not all of them. Many saw the handwriting on the wall and GTFO of Dodge before the gates closed.


16 posted on 03/19/2012 8:45:46 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: PRePublic
D@mn those anti-Semitic, Bible-thumping rednecks!!!

Oh . . . wait.

17 posted on 03/19/2012 8:47:05 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: LyinLibs
Did he murder them peacefully?

Yes, very much so, Allah Hu Akbar, now, you infidels West either say we are a R.O.P. or else...

18 posted on 03/19/2012 8:47:19 AM PDT by PRePublic (9)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

LOL

Sad but true!


19 posted on 03/19/2012 8:48:36 AM PDT by himno hero (Obamas theme...Death to America...The crusaders will pay!)
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To: PRePublic

Toulouse has been crawling with creepy muzzies for a while...and it’s a crying shame because it’s a beautiful city. I knew the moment I heard of the shootings just who was responsible. Prayers for the victims’ families.


20 posted on 03/19/2012 8:50:00 AM PDT by Miss Behave (All ways, always.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I have read stories of Jews who tried desperately to get out of Germany before the war started. Some made it, and some were heart breakingly close before the door slammed shut.


21 posted on 03/19/2012 8:50:22 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: wtd

AFP is reporting that a “judicial source” says the same gun was used in the school shootings and the attack on the soldiers.


22 posted on 03/19/2012 9:00:49 AM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: Hunton Peck

Did AFP actually confirm it was the same weapon or just the same caliber (need link, thnx).


23 posted on 03/19/2012 9:03:43 AM PDT by wtd
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To: PRePublic

And the West continues to suck its thumb.


24 posted on 03/19/2012 9:06:56 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Tenacious 1
It’s just a coincidence that the attacker was Muslim and the victims were Jewish.

Sandmaggots are not my favorite culture, but I have yet to see an explanation of how it was determined that the shooter was arab or muslim.

All reports I have seen so far fail to give a description of the shooter; plus I assume that if he was wearing a helmet (burqua?) it would be difficult to ID ethnicity.

25 posted on 03/19/2012 9:17:51 AM PDT by Publius6961 (“It’s easy to make phony promises you can’t keep.” - Obama, Feb23, 2012)
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To: Miss Behave
Amen.

"He shot at everything he had in front of him, children and adults," Valet said. "The children were chased inside the school."

26 posted on 03/19/2012 9:21:40 AM PDT by PRePublic (9)
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To: wtd
So far, all I have is the following Tweet:
Agence France-Presse ‏ @AFP

Same gun used in #French #Jewish school attack and last week's soldier murders: judicial source #AFP

From https://twitter.com/#!/AFP
27 posted on 03/19/2012 9:22:42 AM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: PRePublic

Boy wonder and his affirmative action DOJ head will simply call this road rage as it certainly cannot be rag head terrorism.

If you have a mosque in your city/town then you have a weapons factory making sub-human WMDs. (Weapons of Mudslime Demons)


28 posted on 03/19/2012 9:22:56 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Welcome to the new USSA (United Socialist States of Amerika))
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To: Marguerite

While it is likely the killer is Muslim, you have to keep in mind that a Le Pen fanatic is also possible. That is one group who hates Jews and Muslims and would benefit politically from conflict. The odd thing here is that there hasn’t been any claims by al Qaeda yet, which is out of character.


29 posted on 03/19/2012 9:38:16 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Tenacious 1
The AP makes the gun the villain, while ignoring that the Islamic Terrorist pulled the trigger.
30 posted on 03/19/2012 9:39:03 AM PDT by G Larry (We are NOT obliged to carry the snake in our pocket and then dismiss the bites as natural behavior.)
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To: JimSEA
True. Yet, ,b>Even if le-Pen was invloved. Ilan Halimi syndrome of Arab-Muslim constant monstrous hatred and violence is overwhelming in France.
31 posted on 03/19/2012 9:40:08 AM PDT by PRePublic (9)
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To: MichaelNewton
LOL!

That's a keeper.

32 posted on 03/19/2012 9:42:58 AM PDT by Publius6961 (“It’s easy to make phony promises you can’t keep.” - Obama, Feb23, 2012)
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To: PRePublic

Arab Muslim gunman? Are they sure it wasn’t this kid?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YNO-AzPxS4U


33 posted on 03/19/2012 9:44:27 AM PDT by kevao
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To: Enterprise

Many Jews got out of Germany quite easily. German Jews were generally well off and Germany didn’t start real persecution until four years after the Nazis took over.

In contrast, eastern European Jews were generally poor and the Nazi started rounding them up right after conquering these countries.

In Germany, 64% of Jews survived. In Poland, it was just 9%.

http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/holocaust/h-statistics.htm


34 posted on 03/19/2012 9:45:11 AM PDT by MichaelNewton
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To: JimSEA

That’s lefty baloney. Lefties always divert probable Muslim terrorist attacks to improbable “right-wing” ones. It wouldn’t surprise me if the Iranians paid the murderer.


35 posted on 03/19/2012 9:50:18 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: PRePublic

What did I tell all of you?


36 posted on 03/19/2012 9:59:25 AM PDT by pabianice (")
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To: wtd
From the Soldiers banned from wearing uniforms" link:

Thursday's attack saw the killer, clad in a black motorcycle outfit and a helmet with a visor, dismount from a powerful scooter and open fire on the three soldiers as they queued at a cash machine.

Paris is a strange place. I remember back in '93 while visiting, I learned about the GIPN (domestic anti-terrorist unit.) I like to wander Paris on foot, and family warned me about those heavily armed soldiers : when you meet those, get away from there ASAP they brook no PC crap whatsoever. Specially if you don't understand the language you get shot and questioned later. I did see them a few times and they were armored and armed to the teeth.

During that same period, I had a family friend in US Air Force intelligence who reported out of the US Embassy near Place de la Concorde, and she and a few friends were reprimanded not for wearing uniforms (which they often did when officially working) but neglecting to change their combat boots while visiting a local bar.

The current apprehension about terrorism in Paris is as high as it must be in New York City, and has been ongoing since before 9-11, even.

37 posted on 03/19/2012 10:00:23 AM PDT by Publius6961 (“It’s easy to make phony promises you can’t keep.” - Obama, Feb23, 2012)
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To: Hunton Peck
Same gun used in #French #Jewish school attack and last week's soldier murders: judicial source #AFP

I read the French AFP on line and the authorities are being as PC careful as they are in the US.
They confirmed the weapon was the same (unusually large) caliber, but can't yet say if it was the identical same weapon.

38 posted on 03/19/2012 10:04:34 AM PDT by Publius6961 (“It’s easy to make phony promises you can’t keep.” - Obama, Feb23, 2012)
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To: pabianice
What did I tell all of you?

I don't know. I forgot.

Care to remind us?

39 posted on 03/19/2012 10:10:55 AM PDT by Publius6961 (“It’s easy to make phony promises you can’t keep.” - Obama, Feb23, 2012)
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To: JimSEA

Points (and post) seen as a possibility here. Too many unknowns at this point. Main concern is this investigation is taking too long to sort out. Expecting another attack within 72 to 96 hours (of this sort) in France. Prayer this person is caught quickly.


40 posted on 03/19/2012 10:13:48 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: PRePublic
How do they know he was Muslim? He's still on the loose.
41 posted on 03/19/2012 10:13:56 AM PDT by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: starlifter
How do they know he was Muslim? He's still on the loose.

Good question. In Paris half the universe rides scooters; from investment bankers, to pizza delivery, to terrorists...

42 posted on 03/19/2012 10:17:29 AM PDT by Publius6961 (“It’s easy to make phony promises you can’t keep.” - Obama, Feb23, 2012)
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To: Publius6961
Vlad Tepes posted this video report & translation of a French clip on the Jewish school shooter
This was a hard clip to translate as one of the speakers was on a telephone and speaking very quickly. The shooter seems to be described as, ‘of black origin’ although we could stand to be corrected if that is not what is said.

That video was not able to identify the victims, but a later online report provides those details here:

Victims of Shooting at Jewish School in Toulouse, France Identified, SEVERAL Still Fighting for Their Lives

Visiting school teacher Rabbi Yonatan Sandler and his sons Aryeh and Gavriel – all of the Kiryat Yovel neighborhood in Jerusalem – were identified as 3 of the victims of Monday’s shooting attack on the Ozar HaTorah Jewish school in Toulouse on Monday. Another victim, 8 year-old Miriam Monsonego, was the daughter of school principal Rabbi Yaacov Monsonego.

Three children, ages 6-8, are fighting for their lives.The French television network BFM said the dead included a school teacher, his two children, and a 17-year-old male student. The daughter of the school’s principal, who had been critically injured, has also succumbed to her wounds.

Prayers go up for them.

ברוך אתה ה’ אלוהינו מלך העולם, דיין האמת. Baruch Dayan HaEmet! Blessed are You, Lord our God, the true Judge.

המקום ינחם אתכם בתוך שאר אבלי ציון וירושלים

May Gd comfort you among the mourners of Zion and Jerusalem

43 posted on 03/19/2012 10:29:36 AM PDT by wtd
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To: Hunton Peck
"Authorities said at the time that forensic analysis showed that the same weapon was used in the shootings in Montauban and Toulouse"via TimesOfIsrael

From the same link, photos of the victims (may be removed due to family request according to comments at link) - members of the destroyed beautiful, young family as well as the following:

In an apparently separate incident, threatening letters were sent to two Parisian synagogues on Monday. According to the French Police, letters saying, “You are the people of Satan, hell awaits you” were sent to synagogues in the capital’s eighth and 19th arrondissements.
Now who would be concerned with Satan more - Muslims or Extreme-right nationalists? I betting the shooter is of North African Muhammedan descent.

Lan Astaslem

لن استسلم‎

44 posted on 03/19/2012 10:50:05 AM PDT by wtd
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To: wtd

If there is video of any of the shootings from two or more angles someone is keeping it close to their vest. Thought France had lots of cameras.


45 posted on 03/19/2012 10:58:02 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: no-to-illegals
No surviellance video yet . . .but here are plenty of photos:

Voizneias (yiddish for what is news)blog posts extensive photo essay

46 posted on 03/19/2012 11:29:52 AM PDT by wtd
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To: Marguerite
An 11.43 mm. weapon was used in that attack as well...

11.43mm = .45 caliber

47 posted on 03/19/2012 11:41:14 AM PDT by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: MichaelNewton
It would not be truly accurate for me to say that all the Jews of Europe were not generally aware of the danger they were in. Martin Gilbert writes in his book "Kristallnacht," that "Between them, Britain and the Unites States gave refuge to more than half of all German Jews living in Germany in January 1933." (Page 125) However, the persecution of Jews started early in the Nazi regime.

"Kristallnacht was the culmination of more than five years and nine months of systematic discrimination and persecution. From the first days of Hitler's regime in Germany, anti-Jewish measures followed with disturbing frequency." (Page 119)

This site provides a year by year account of anti-Jewish legislation from 1933 to 1939

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007459

My apologies for not linking, but for some reason, I have lost the ability to post pictures and post links. I know the proper format, but when I try to apply it there is just a blank.

48 posted on 03/19/2012 11:41:14 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: no-to-illegals
More details provided in this BBC report on recent scooter shooter
The killer was described as a small man who acted calmly, stopping to change the magazine of his pistol. Witnesses described how he had turned over one of the wounded men who was trying to crawl away, and fired three more shots into him. He was someone obviously used to handling a gun, a judicial source told AFP. One witness, who described the killer as “of average height and quite fat”, told French broadcaster RTL his helmet visor had been raised and she had seen his eyes and a tattoo or scar on his face. “one of the soldier victims had a criminal record, other than a speeding offence in one case, seems to undermine the theory of a gangland motive. Furthermore, the soldiers in Montauban did not know the sergeant killed in Toulouse, according to France TV Info.
Note: below the halfway point on the page, a gratuitous link to Breivik
What the victims have in common is that they belong to, or are associated with, ethnic or religious minorities – North African, Caribbean and Jewish.

* On Sunday 11 March, Imad Ibn-Ziaten, a 30-year-old staff sergeant in the 1st Airborne Transportation Regiment, not in uniform, was shot dead around 16:00 (15:00 GMT) behind a school in a quiet district of Toulouse.He had posted a small ad on a website to sell a Suzuki Bandit motorcycle, and the suspected gunman had arranged a meeting to see it.

*Thursday, March 15th – Two members of the 17th Airborne Combat Engineering Regiment, Corporal Abel Chennouf, 24 ( Catholic?), and

Private Mohamed Legouad, 26, were killed. Both, like Sgt Ibn-Ziaten, were of North African origin.

A third paratrooper, 28-year-old Corporal Loic Liber from the French overseas region of Guadeloupe (of Afro-Caribbean descent), was left in a coma. The sergeant was found shot in the head, his motorcycle beside him.

49 posted on 03/19/2012 12:46:47 PM PDT by wtd
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>>What did I tell all of you? I don’t know. I forgot. Care to remind us?

That the Rancid Media would immediately hide that the gunman is a Muslim — after both the French Government and Fox reported that he is a Muslim.


50 posted on 03/19/2012 1:44:28 PM PDT by pabianice (")
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