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Republicans Should Avoid Social Issues
NewsMax ^ | 031912 | Wayne Allyn Root

Posted on 03/19/2012 11:23:44 AM PDT by Fred

Rick Santorum could be the worst thing to happen to the GOP — ever. Worse even than George W. Bush. And that’s saying a lot. Bush did so much damage to the GOP brand, he almost destroyed the party forever. It was George Bush who brought us Barack Obama. Few Americans voted for Obama, they just voted for ABB (Anyone But Bush).

Now the GOP has a golden opportunity. Obama has wrecked the U.S. economy from sea to shining sea. He has turned off voters by the millions. By historical standards, based on the current disastrous economic and unemployment numbers, Obama is virtually unelectable. Obama is a magician. He has made voters forget Bush in only three years. That's a pretty darn amazing trick.

The proof is in the recent polls. This has been perhaps the worst month for the GOP in modern political history. The message is no longer jobs, rising gas prices, chronic long-term unemployment, or crumbling real estate.

The message is about women’s health, the right to use contraception, Planned Parenthood funding, Rush Limbaugh’s use of a crude term to describe a young female law student, and whether Republicans like sex, or hate women. It just doesn’t get any worse than this. And in recent polls, Mitt Romney is leading President Obama.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; deathpanels; gingrich; libertarians; moralabsolutes; obamacare; pervert; porno; romney; santorum; stalkinghorse; zerocare
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1 posted on 03/19/2012 11:23:53 AM PDT by Fred
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To: Fred

Unfortunately Palin isn’t in. Romney can’t even sell a majority of Republicans, much less the whole nation.


2 posted on 03/19/2012 11:29:52 AM PDT by steve8714 (Clay...Carnahan...who is the least of these?)
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To: Fred

BHO was running against GW Bush?


3 posted on 03/19/2012 11:31:33 AM PDT by svcw (CLEAN WATER & Education http://www.longlostsis.com/PI/MayanHelp2012.html)
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To: Fred

Better to stop being the war party world policeman. Nation build here.


4 posted on 03/19/2012 11:32:17 AM PDT by ex-snook ("above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: Fred

Wayne Allyn Root is a flaming degenerate homosexual. He wants people to think that a Santorum victory would destroy Republicans forever because of social issues. The GOP took back congress in 2010 after 4 years when Snake-head Carville predicted that the Rats would hold congress for another 40 years.


5 posted on 03/19/2012 11:33:04 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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To: steve8714

It’s not that we should “avoid” social issues. Reagan certainly didn’t avoid social issues, in fact he deliberately appealed to the Moral Majority.

It’s the WAY Santorum is doing it. Kennedy made him want to “throw up” for example.

He shoots from the hip, which CAN be a good thing, but please. He is not nearly as media-savvy as Reagan.


6 posted on 03/19/2012 11:33:24 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Ann Coulter isn't about conservatism. Ann Coulter is about Ann Coulter.)
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To: Fred
they just voted for ABB (Anyone But Bush).

Just goes to show you how stupid the middle 20% are.. Bush wasn't on the ballot in 2008.

7 posted on 03/19/2012 11:34:10 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: steve8714
Romney is likely to win Illinois tomorrow by 10+ points in a 3-4 way race.

The anti-Santorum sentiment increases by the day.

Soon we'll see stories in the MSM and alternative press talking about "Santorum must be stopped".

He brought it on himself.

Rookie.

8 posted on 03/19/2012 11:34:30 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Fred
BS!

OK, I do think it is “The Economy Stupid” and that Santorum should try to talk about the economy, most of the time.

However? Santorum IS talking about the economy more than anything else, 2nd being foreign affairs.

The MSM wants it to be about “Social Issues” but that is a measure of the stupidity and arrogance of the MSM!

THE SOCIAL ISSUES BENEFIT CONSERVATIVES IN NEARLY EVERY ELECTION WHERE EXIT POLLS HAVE ASKED ABOUT MOTIVATION TO VOTE!

Single Issue prolifers outnumber Single Issue prochoicers by at least 5 percentage points, everywhere in the country.

Gay Marriage, generally goes down to defeat every time it is on the ballot.

Santorum can EASILY get a strong majority vote, and the women's vote, but focusing his pornography arguments on kiddie porn, as he seems to be doing the last few days.

You might have a personal unease about the “social issues” but? There is NO good, mathematical reason for Republicans to be the least bit affraid of the “social issues”.

9 posted on 03/19/2012 11:34:52 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Fred

If your view (and Newsmax’) is that our lives are made up of simple economic “policies”, then you are out of touch with the conservative movement. The fabric of America IS social, spiritual, economic, and moral. All of these impact the so-called political views we wish to see implemented. We will be voting for more than our wallets.


10 posted on 03/19/2012 11:35:10 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: steve8714

I guess we are not going to talk about tax policy which is the biggest social issue there is? Government confisicating people’s income, something they earned and work for at 35% is one of biggest moral issues in this country.. It is sad, as people don’t think tax policy as a moral/social issue and republicans/conservatives/Liberterians never define taxes as such.


11 posted on 03/19/2012 11:36:38 AM PDT by scbison
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To: Flavious_Maximus

Interesting, I thought he was a Paulbot. Oh, I guess he could be both.


12 posted on 03/19/2012 11:36:50 AM PDT by svcw (CLEAN WATER & Education http://www.longlostsis.com/PI/MayanHelp2012.html)
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To: Dutchboy88

There is no real division between fiscal and social conservatism. That’s just one more leftist creation to infect the right. Find me a fiscal conservative who considers themselves moderate on social issues, and I’ll show you a liberal.

Seems to me that some folks just don’t realize they’re on the wrong side.


13 posted on 03/19/2012 11:43:51 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Flavious_Maximus

“The GOP took back congress in 2010 after 4 years when Snake-head Carville predicted that the Rats would hold congress for another 40 years.”

Wasn’t that largely due to economic issues?


14 posted on 03/19/2012 11:49:23 AM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: cripplecreek
Free enterprise without a solid underpinning of moral character becomes crony capitalism, then morphs into government slavery.

The two issues are one. Free market economics can't thrive as a system without honor and integrity.

15 posted on 03/19/2012 11:49:39 AM PDT by Lakeshark (NbIttoalbl,cRwIdtaa)
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To: Fred

I may be in the minority, I don’t know. But I liked Bush.


16 posted on 03/19/2012 11:50:47 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: cripplecreek

Unfortunately, we are demonized by the leftist media when it comes to social issues. Just like all this nonsense about wanting to ban contraception. But enough people buy into it.

We need to keep the economy & the $15 trillion dollar debt front & center of the debate. Simply dismiss their attempts to bring up other issues as what it is, an attempt to deflect the argument from Obama’s failed policies. Later, when we’re in power, we can make a strong case for changing welfare & other programs based on the harm they cause. It’s all timing.


17 posted on 03/19/2012 11:51:12 AM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: Fred
And that’s saying a lot. Bush did so much damage to the GOP brand, he almost destroyed the party forever. It was George Bush who brought us Barack Obama.

Not to mention dragging in more Muslims legally, after 911, than the previous two decades.

18 posted on 03/19/2012 11:51:18 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Fred

I do not hear Rick Santorum making this about the “social issues” what I do see is the MEDIA wanting to make it LOOK LIKE Rick Santorum is making this about “social issues”.

We must not let the MSM define Rick Santorum. Period.

Jim


19 posted on 03/19/2012 11:56:45 AM PDT by TPD_Jim.Smith
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To: yldstrk

“But I liked Bush.”

Then you weren’t paying attention. He was and is a pitiful disgrace.


20 posted on 03/19/2012 11:56:45 AM PDT by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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To: yldstrk

“But I liked Bush.”

Then you weren’t paying attention. He was and is a pitiful disgrace.


21 posted on 03/19/2012 11:57:12 AM PDT by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears; Mariner

Who is your alternative currently in the race?


22 posted on 03/19/2012 12:00:19 PM PDT by steve8714 (Clay...Carnahan...who is the least of these?)
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To: Fred

Forget social issues - it’s all about the Economy, Stupido!

I’m absolutely convinced that Newt Gingrich is the junkyard dog we need to rip Obama a new one and send him slinking back to his Chicago slime pit with his tail between his legs. Newt has plenty of DC experience as Speaker, executive ability from his many enterprises, and a silver tongue that’s razor sharp! He’s fast on his feet, delivers it straight up with no hemming and hawing, and is often witty. His work with American Solutions was very impressive and as we’ve seen recently, Newt is able to put into words what the vast majority of Americans really believe. His fevered brain also has plenty of ideas for making government work better for taxpayers. Is Newt pure as new-driven snow? No - none of the presidential candidates are in line for sainthood. Whatever Newt’s “baggage”, it pales next to Obama’s habitual lying and outright corruption - and unlike Obama, Newt is 100% American! Newt is like Larry the Cable Guy: send him to DC and he’ll “Get ‘er done” for all of us. Newt has “Been there, done that! Junkyard dogs are not show dogs, but they’ll save your bacon!

I am damn mad at what Obama and his fawning bootlickers have stolen from us - you should be too - and I want someone to represent me! Newt Gingrich is that man! Sic ‘im, Newt!


23 posted on 03/19/2012 12:00:24 PM PDT by bopdowah ("Unlike King Midas, whatever the Gubmint touches sure don't turn to Gold!')
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To: TPD_Jim.Smith
We must not let the MSM define Rick Santorum. Period.

Plenty of FReepers who puff their chests out and brag about fighting the media happily jump on that media bandwagon at the first opportunity.

America is a mess because so many lack a moral basis and I'm not talking about the left this time. After all, look at how many bashed Michele Bachmann for suggesting $2 gas but are now treating another candidate like a messiah for saying the same.
24 posted on 03/19/2012 12:02:57 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: bopdowah

Newt has no chance at the nomination, for reasons unrelated to his fitness and all related to his experience.


25 posted on 03/19/2012 12:03:18 PM PDT by steve8714 (Clay...Carnahan...who is the least of these?)
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To: Fred
Few Americans voted for Obama, they just voted for ABB (Anyone But Bush).

No need to read any further than that!

26 posted on 03/19/2012 12:03:56 PM PDT by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: Flavious_Maximus

“The GOP took back congress in 2010”

It wasn’t because they campaigned on waging a war against birth control or online porn. It was made possible by a broad “get the government out of my life” coalition.


27 posted on 03/19/2012 12:05:21 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: Fred

No, Wayne (2008 Libertarian VP nominee), we pro-life/pro traditional marriage social conservatives will not go to the back of bus.


28 posted on 03/19/2012 12:06:31 PM PDT by ConservativeTeen (Proud Right Wing Extremist)
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To: KantianBurke

Why is he a pitiful disgrace?


29 posted on 03/19/2012 12:07:40 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Fred

Because the liberals, read: children, want to have their way or else they throw a temper tantrum???


30 posted on 03/19/2012 12:08:16 PM PDT by CodeToad (I'm so right-wing if I lifted my left leg I'd go into a spin.)
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To: Lakeshark
The two issues are one. Free market economics can't thrive as a system without honor and integrity.

Well said, FRiend.

Wall Street, i.e. the financial services industry, has proven itself incapable of self regulation.

Crony capitalism is rampant, as winners and losers are made through federal regulatory and tax policy.

We took an overnight trip to Houston over the weekend. While driving south on I-45, I noticed a string of literally hundreds of tanker cars taking crude down to Houston for refining. Thanks to Obama's veto on the Keystone pipeline, Warren Buffett (BNSF Railroad) will reap the benefits of that veto.

And you hear nothing but crickets coming from the RNC or Romney. That cozy Obama-Buffett relationship would be in my daily talking points if I was running for Prez.

31 posted on 03/19/2012 12:12:10 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (My dream ticket for 2012 is John Galt & Dagny Taggart!)
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To: steve8714

I think Gingrich would need to win nearly every remaining state by wide margins to get the nomination. Even that may not be enough considering the way the table keeps getting tilted in favor of Romney.

Between them, Santorum and Gingrich hold enough delegates to put themselves within 100 of Romney.


32 posted on 03/19/2012 12:12:41 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Fred
Rick Santorum could be the worst thing to happen to the GOP

Actually the worst thing to happen to the Republican party is Republicans eating their own. I've never seen Democrats go after other Dems like that which is why they'll eventually win.

33 posted on 03/19/2012 12:13:54 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: yldstrk
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"It was Sunday morning early in the year 1776. In the church where Pastor Muhlenberg preached, it was a regular service for his congregation, but a quite different affair for Muhlenberg himself. Muhlenberg's text for the day was Ecclesiastes 3 where it explains, 'To everything there is a season, a time for every purpose under heaven; a time to be born, and a time to die, a time to plant, and a time to pluck what is planted...'"

"Coming to the end of his sermon, Peter Muhlenberg turned to his congregation and said, 'In the language of the holy writ, there was a time for all things, a time to preach and a time to pray, but those times have passed away.' As those assembled looked on, Pastor Muhlenberg declared, 'There is a time to fight, and that time is now coming!' Muhlenberg then proceeded to remove his robes revealing, to the shock of his congregation, a military uniform."

"Marching to the back of the church he declared, 'Who among you is with me?' On that day 300 men from his church stood up and joined Peter Muhlenberg. They eventually became the 8th Virginia Brigade fighting for liberty."

"Frederick Muhlenberg, Peter's brother, was against Peter's level of involvement in the war. Peter responded to Frederick writing, 'I am a Clergyman it is true, but I am a member of the Society as well as the poorest Layman, and my Liberty is as dear to me as any man, shall I then sit still and enjoy myself at Home when the best Blood of the Covenant is spilling? ...So far am I from thinking that I act wrong, I am convinced it is my duty to do so and duly I owe to God and my country."



34 posted on 03/19/2012 12:14:42 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Kansas58

Well said.

GWBush won, Reagan won.

HW Bush, lost, Dole, lost, McCain, lost,

Seems to me whenever republicans stand up for social conservatism they win.


35 posted on 03/19/2012 12:16:20 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

Kennedy’s remarks were a fib in response to a lie.


36 posted on 03/19/2012 12:17:34 PM PDT by steve8714 (Clay...Carnahan...who is the least of these?)
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To: Fred

Add the USA to the list, but DON’T TALK ABOUT IT!

Marxism, Communism, Socialism, Fascism, Feminism...

“The place of the family as a shut-in petty enterprise was to be occupied, according to the plans, by a finished system of social care and accommodation: maternity houses, creches, kindergartens, schools, social dining rooms, social laundries, first-aid stations, hospitals, sanatoria, athletic organizations, moving-picture theaters, etc. The complete absorption of the housekeeping functions of the family by institutions of the socialist society...”

- Leon Trotsky -


37 posted on 03/19/2012 12:18:26 PM PDT by donna (Republicans won't change their ways until conservatives draw the line.)
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To: Flavious_Maximus

Homo? Married 14 years with three kids? Who does he think he is, Prince Charles?


38 posted on 03/19/2012 12:24:53 PM PDT by steve8714 (Clay...Carnahan...who is the least of these?)
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To: JCBreckenridge
Restoring Honor Rally. A pro American rally based in faith

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Yeah lets tell these people that its a loser to speak of faith.
39 posted on 03/19/2012 12:27:06 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Fred

The tax stucture can be changed. The biggest killer of the economy and social structure is Obamacare. With it, the country is all but dead, and so is your freedom. It is the most important thing to rid ourselves of if we want any future.

Rick Santorum makes a great case against Obamacare.

He talks about the economy a lot if you follow him, but you won’t see it on the MSM because they want to feed the notion that all he talks about is social issues.


40 posted on 03/19/2012 12:27:45 PM PDT by dforest
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To: bopdowah

Newt’s many enterprises lobbied Congress for Fannie and Freddie. That’s not where you want to go. Newt is a best-selling author and a respected student of American 19th century history.
His electoral experience all being in the House means he never had a chance at the top spot on the ticket. Never had. Never will.


41 posted on 03/19/2012 12:28:50 PM PDT by steve8714 (Clay...Carnahan...who is the least of these?)
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To: Fred

The Reagan coalition was built on social issues.

Since social conservatism is the basis for all conservatism since it shows us the difference between right and wrong, separating the two gives us the milquetoast moderates we’re used to seeing all too often.

We’re conservatives. We’re grown-ups. We can multitask.


42 posted on 03/19/2012 12:32:19 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Myth Romney: "Governor Goodhair" is really just a Whig.)
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To: Fred
If Republicans "avoid" social issues, isn't that like saying the left's view is the accepted view on those issues?

I agree some candidates can go over to "silly street" on these issues and the winds of their campaign enter the doldrums when they do.

However, I think the complexity of the situation we find our country in now is not going to be helped by sermon preaching.

If a person falls in the river, their first objective is to keep from drowning...once that is accomplished we'll fix the broken rail later.

Priorities must be established. Let's get rid of obama, rebuild the dollar, and get some jobs happening in American, then, we'll go after the porn industy.

Americans sitting at home who are stuggling to pay their light bill and buy groceries are not really concerned with anything but getting their lives back together.

Leadership who doesn't have the balls to tell the left "NO" are clouding the subject with things that can be put aside until the USS America is again righted, and floating again.

If the GOP wins in November, everyone should know that we're in for a fight. Obama has whipped up a frenzy between the classes and - just like Greece - those who have been on the dole will not tolerate it ending. Whether they lack the intelligence to know what the word "no" means, or they are just following their furor's orders, we're in for a fight.

Milquetoast is not going to right the country.

Social issues need to be addressed, but there is a time for everything, and the left is better at demogoguing than the right. They're going to take any and every social issue they can find at their think-tank meetings and formulate a plan to inject it into the national dialogue, i.e.Sandra Fluke.

They're good at using the jawbone of an ass (obama) to beat over the heads of conservatives who stand cowed by that invisible monster, "political correctness".

The left is busy cooking up a lot of surprises, and surprise is a formidable foe. The bammer is stacking the deck, knocking down voter ID laws, making public gatherings at the discretion of the Secret Service (TEA party), and pulling out all of the stops to hush Rush, Hannity, FOX News and the Internet.

FACT: obama can't win, without cheating. It's a fact. Every election he's been in was won, not by accomplishments, but by tearing down his opposition, or cheating at the polls.

We need to be a broken record and no matter what the left says, shove the economy in their faces...over, and over, ad infinitum. We should not let them dictate what the conversation is going to be. They should be made to discuss and answer questions about obama's failed policies and if they want to talk about Sandra Fluke, tell them Fluke is NOT running for the presidency, obama is. Sandra will still be "fluking" long after obama is back in Chicago...or Kenya.

The GOP candidates need to become hammers, and let every liberal and the media be their nails.

Save the social issues until we have the TIME and resources to handle them.
43 posted on 03/19/2012 12:40:57 PM PDT by FrankR
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To: dforest
He talks about the economy a lot if you follow him, but you won’t see it on the MSM because they want to feed the notion that all he talks about is social issues.

In my opinion the biggest single cause of our economic problems are the result of us not doing the "Christian thing". The churches were once, the biggest single safety net America had. In a natural disaster, the national guard might come in to help with rescue and clean up but the churches and neighbors did the bulk of the feeding and housing of those affected. Today we rely on overgrown taxpayer funded federal agencies and can sit back and feel that we've done something good by paying our taxes. Its collective salvation and its a sure road to damnation.

I'm not looking for an argument on Gingrich but his idea to defund planned parenthood is fine till he gets to the part about using the "savings" to help fund private adoption agencies. The conservative Christian thing to do would be to defund planned parenthood and let the people decide as individuals what to do with that money.

One of the old timers in My little town told me that he landed here during the depression and never left. He worked his way here from Nebraska and showed up at the parsonage on a cold night looking for a place to sleep. The pastor told him he could sleep in the church on the first night but would have to sleep in the shed behind it once it was fixed up and he paid for his keep. All these years later and he's living his last days in that little house (former shed) behind the church.
44 posted on 03/19/2012 12:49:42 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Colonel_Flagg
The Reagan coalition was built on social issues.

The Reagan Democrats are a beautiful example.

From Wiki

The work of Democratic pollster Stan Greenberg is a classic study of Reagan Democrats. Greenberg analyzed white ethnic voters (largely unionized auto workers) in Macomb County, Michigan, just north of Detroit. The county voted 63 percent for John F. Kennedy in 1960, but 66 percent for Reagan in 1980. He concluded that "Reagan Democrats" no longer saw Democrats as champions of their working class aspirations, but instead saw them as working primarily for the benefit of others: the very poor, feminists, the unemployed, African Americans, Latinos, and other groups. In addition, Reagan Democrats enjoyed gains during the period of economic prosperity that coincided with the Reagan administration following the "malaise" of the Carter administration. They also supported Reagan's strong stance on national security and opposed the 1980s Democratic Party on such issues as pornography, crime, and high taxes.
45 posted on 03/19/2012 12:54:29 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: yldstrk

For any number of idiotic policies that have cost this country dearly both in blood & treasure. Examples include Medicare Part D , BILLIONS in taxpayer dollars flushed down the toilet for “AIDS in Africa,” the Harriet Miers Supreme Court nomination debacle, TARP, Amnesty, the collapse of Operation Together Forward II, the loss of both Houses of Congress under his watch...I can go on. Heck check out my profile page for plenty more tidbits. At the very least the ideological disarray of the GOP can and should be laid at his callow feet. It’s telling how rarely his name and his administration is ever mentioned on the GOP campaign trail btw.


46 posted on 03/19/2012 1:03:25 PM PDT by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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To: steve8714

Don’t count Newt out! Still 5 mo to go before the Convention and 8 mo to go before Election Day!


47 posted on 03/19/2012 1:05:05 PM PDT by bopdowah ("Unlike King Midas, whatever the Gubmint touches sure don't turn to Gold!')
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To: Fred

If we can’t talk about social issues this year, then when can we talk about them?

We’re supposed to take a huge chunk of issues that appeal to one of our core constituencies out of our platform? How does that help our electoral, fundraising, or volunteering prospects?

News flash: people who believe unborn babies being killed in the womb is immoral believe it’s immoral all the time. Not just in “off years.” Most morality is like that. If you only stand by it when it’s convenient, you’re not being moral.

Are there going to be years when we can’t talk about capitalism, and have to instead extol the virtues of communism, or at least sit idly by as communism happens and not object?

Are we supposed to set ourselves up as the party who can only get elected when the economy is bad? The Democrats are historically the party who wins when the economy is bad, so that’s an uphill battle on enemy territory we’d be fighting.

The fact is people who do not believe that our nation is facing moral crises that need legal remedies are the ones arguing that THIS YEAR we shouldn’t talk about that topic. They have no plans to EVER talk about it. They’re simply trying to bamboozle the rest of us into agreeing with them. But we don’t and we never will.


48 posted on 03/19/2012 1:05:29 PM PDT by JediJones (The Divided States of Obama's Declaration of Dependence: Death, Taxes and the Pursuit of Crappiness)
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To: Fred
Republicans Should Avoid Social Issues

Republicans should just roll over and die...

49 posted on 03/19/2012 1:07:00 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: steve8714
His electoral experience all being in the House means he never had a chance at the top spot on the ticket. Never had. Never will.

Would you agree to amend the constitution so that Speaker of the House is no longer two heartbeats away from the presidency?

50 posted on 03/19/2012 1:08:37 PM PDT by JediJones (The Divided States of Obama's Declaration of Dependence: Death, Taxes and the Pursuit of Crappiness)
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