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Wife of Staff Sgt. Robert Bales' (releases) statement
KiroTV ^ | 19 Mar 12 | Karilyn Bales

Posted on 03/19/2012 4:15:37 PM PDT by xzins

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To: xzins; All

Prayers UP for the family. This was on military.com.

Veterans Get Risky Painkillers

Week of March 19, 2012

Stars and Stripes reports that a new study has found that recent U.S. War veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) along with physical pain are often prescribed Morphine and similar powerful painkillers. Subsequent suicides, other self-inflicted injuries, and drug and alcohol overdoses were all more common in veterans with PTSD who received these drugs. The Department of Veterans Affairs paid for the study, which is based on VA health care data. An abstract of the study is available on the Journal of the American Medical Association website.


101 posted on 03/19/2012 6:05:12 PM PDT by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: bigheadfred
Now that is just silly.

No less silly or ignorant as your statement........

My vote would be to pull out and nuke the country killing all of them. Yes, that includes women and children...

102 posted on 03/19/2012 6:06:07 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (No matter what you post here, someone's going to get pissed off......)
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To: SoldierDad

Dude, did you even read what I wrote? I did NOT sit in judgement of this man, but I did analyze the job the Oval Office Occupier was doing.


103 posted on 03/19/2012 6:07:08 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoldierDad

“Mitigating circumstances are not used to assauge guilt. They are used to apply the appropriate sentence for the actions leading to the charges and subsequent trial”

Hundreds of thousands of men & women have served in our Armed Forces & fought in both the Iraq & Afghanistan conflicts for multiple tours just as long if not longer than Bale. Many have suffered from PTSD, troubled relationships and emotional / physical problems. And yet virtually none stand accused of Bale’s charges.

“The fact that you are ready to put a noose around his neck and throw the other end over a sturdy branch of the nearest appropriate tree is telling.”

Please point out where I called for summary execution? I clearly stated that IF FOUND GUILTY i.e. of murdering unarmed men, women & children in the dead of night, he should face the death penalty. If there is any act which demands such retribution is it what he is accused of.


104 posted on 03/19/2012 6:08:38 PM PDT by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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To: katiedidit1

Katie, our war department has clearly outdone themselves on this one, sending soldiers back again and again from the safety of “the war’s on the back burner zone” to the death camp of “the IED blows up your buddy zone”.

And then they act surprised when it messes with some minds.

OF COURSE, it messes with minds. Beat up on people enough and some will piss themselves when you walk by and others will attack you. And there’ll be a whole range in between.


105 posted on 03/19/2012 6:10:59 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: org.whodat
All "war" is murder. People just can't stand when it gets personalized. So it's one of those feel good about themselves moments to point their fingers and declare "We are not like that. KILL HIM!!!!!"

What a joke.

106 posted on 03/19/2012 6:11:40 PM PDT by bigheadfred (SPIT)
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To: xzins

“At no place does he admit rampaging through buildings indiscriminately killing Iraqis he knew to be innocent civilians.”

Of course not because if he had he would be currently serving life behind bars in Leavenworth. As for the charge he plead guilty to, sure it wasn’t murder. But again, from the evidence & interviews, IMHO he got off light. Nor can anyone still claim he was pure as snow. Regardless this could go on all night. You and I will have to agree to disagree on this issue.


107 posted on 03/19/2012 6:14:51 PM PDT by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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To: bigheadfred

Hunting and killing kids is not war, fool, it is hunting and killing kids.


108 posted on 03/19/2012 6:16:34 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: xzins

I was so impressed with the lines:

“we must find peace”

“my husband who I love very much”

Robert Bales married what we call in my neck of the woods “a keeper”.
_____________________

I absolutely agree.


109 posted on 03/19/2012 6:16:38 PM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: KantianBurke; xzins; RedRover; bigheadfred; All
Reading the transcripts of the 60 Minutes interview with Wuterich eliminated any presumption of innocence in my mind.

It only goes to show you have a small mind. At the time of the 60 minutes interview SSgt. Wuterich was charged with multiple counts of murder.

Here's a link to the final, outcome which it seems you chose to ignore.

TRIAL OF SSGT WUTERICH: NO MURDER, NO JAIL, THE END OF AN ORDEAL Posted January 24, 2012.

This series of posts from an earlier thread on Haditha Marines Haditha Marines. Link to thread

To: KantianBurke
One wonders how many terrorists have been spawned due to his psychopathy.

Eleven. But they're all dead now.

BTW, haven't seen you on the Haditha threads since they started to be exonerated. How come? You only interested in slamming our troops? C'mon, admit it. You had your head up your ass about Haditha. Confession is good for the soul.
11 posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 5:41:37 PM by RedRover

To: bigheadfred; KantianBurke
KantianBurke (who’s actually not Kantian nor anything like Edmund Burke) is a snivelly little puke who, I suspect, had his cornflakes peed on by an American serviceman.

He bashes American troops every chance he gets and then runs away when questioned.

He used to come on the Haditha threads to call them all murderers. Then the little s**t just disappeared.
27 posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 7:23:41 PM by RedRover

To: RedRover
My avoidance of your “cause” isn’t due to cowardice but rather because the mods, after being beseiged by your censorious instict, requested that I do so. Judging from your posts which freely indulge in profanity and personal venom, perhaps you should reread FR’s posting guidelines and rules and do likewise.

But since you’ve brought the subject up again and the mods have ignored a request that your potty language be removed, I’ll duly respond with my position which hasn’t changed and which you attempted to have me banned for. The Haditha group themselves have admitted to killing those civilians. Their defense rests solely on the “fog of war” argument. Judging from the events of that day I don’t believe them and consider the conesquences of their trials equivalent to OJ’s not guilt murder verdict. Others are free to make up their own minds about what happened.

The irony of all this is that you’re launching this junvenile attack on a thread that - surprise - has a disgrace to the uniform being punished for being an accessory to murder. Which was my point all along - not all who serve are automatically morally pristine and when they violate our country’s laws, they need to be punished espcially if their actions put other troops lives at risk.
55 posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 11:39:38 AM by KantianBurke

To: KantianBurke
...because the mods, after being beseiged by your censorious instict

LOL! You want me to censor my remarks while whining about my censorious instict? You really overestimate my pull with the Mods. So many people dislike you that the Case of Who Got KantianBurke Suspended is a bit like the Murder on the Orient Express.

Anyway, as I recall it, the thing that got you suspended were ghastly, inappropriate remarks to Haditha Marine family members.

But even you must see there's really nothing personal in anyone's reaction to you. It's quite the reverse. You say things that are deliberately inflammatory and ill-informed. Comparing the exonerations of the Marines to the verdict in the OJ Simpson trial is just silly.

On the other hand, you get all prissy over jibes in response to you, an anonymous screen name.

I appreciate your restraint in staying off the Haditha threads. So let's stick with a good thing and go back to mutual avoidance.
58 posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 2:47:55 PM by RedRover

Just a little sample for all to see regarding Kantian Burke and how he views our military.

110 posted on 03/19/2012 6:19:36 PM PDT by jazusamo (Character assassination is just another form of voter fraud: Thomas Sowell)
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To: org.whodat
Wrong, murder is murder, . . .

We executed 160 GI’s during WWII, not counting the ones shot in the act

Murder is murder! Hmmmm. I'll leave that one where it lays. Instead, let's consider the statement, " . . . Americans do not do that." Who are any of us, sitting in the comfort of our safe environments here at home to suggest that there are NO situations in which a soldier in a combat zone should EVER have a mental or psychotic break resulting in such an incident as what is accused in this case? Can you say you know for certain what took place here? Can you state in no uncertain terms that this man accused of this crime committed these actions with full intent and with full mental faculty? If it were to be the case that this man had suffered a psychotic break which led to these killings, does that provide any mitigating factors in deciding his fate? Or, should we all just grab the rope, drag this man out of his cell at Leavenworth, put the noose around his neck, throw the rope over a study branch, and hang him - without waiting for all the facts to be disclosed?

111 posted on 03/19/2012 6:25:06 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: org.whodat

What is war then?

And take your time.

I don’t want to mess with your feel good moment.


112 posted on 03/19/2012 6:25:49 PM PDT by bigheadfred (SPIT)
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To: Hot Tabasco; babygene

See? You do have a sense of humor. :-))

This thread is full of some seriously funny funny people.


113 posted on 03/19/2012 6:25:58 PM PDT by bigheadfred (SPIT)
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To: KantianBurke; xzins

[The question is whether a soldier who is in the midst of suffering “adult onset psychosis” (your term) would be able to act in such a logical manner.]

Ask former Chief Justice William Rehnquist.

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=William+Rehnquist+hospitalization+CIA

In his case, the psychosis was temporary.


114 posted on 03/19/2012 6:27:34 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: jazusamo

I’ve never hid my skepticism of the justice of your “cause.” I believe then and now that those Marines were guilty of the charges. Such a statement ensured you and your crew went crying to mods threatening me. Not surprising to see you’re unable to control yourself and want to re-engage. And for what purpose? Wuterich plead guilty, was demoted and is now a footnote.


115 posted on 03/19/2012 6:27:50 PM PDT by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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To: SoFloFreeper

DUDE (or dudete, whichever the case may be), you might want to notice that my statement was directed at the other person, not you. I pinged you as a courtesy as I was responding to the other person’s comments to you.


116 posted on 03/19/2012 6:27:49 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: xzins
xzins, I am behind Staff Sergeant Bales. Just reading about the 4th tour was enough to set me off..bad enough for a healthy trooper and even then it is dangerous.

This is one case I will be watching closely. It has troubled me deeply. Not sure which I feel the most..anger or sadness.

117 posted on 03/19/2012 6:29:07 PM PDT by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: KantianBurke
You suffer delusions of grandeur, KB. I've never contacted a Mod about you, ever! The truth hurts and you can believe anything you want about that case but Frank Wuterich plead guilty to one count of dereliction of duty, not murder, not manslaughter or anything else.
118 posted on 03/19/2012 6:34:58 PM PDT by jazusamo (Character assassination is just another form of voter fraud: Thomas Sowell)
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To: txnuke

ditto


119 posted on 03/19/2012 6:35:09 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Limbaugh: Tim Tebow miracle: "He had atheists praying to God that he would lose.")
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To: thesearethetimes...

Where was this aledged ‘link?’


120 posted on 03/19/2012 6:35:58 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: jazusamo; KantianBurke

Yeah, Jaz. I remember. There was another one a lot like this one.

They can have their opinion.

It’s just too bad it mirrors the failed policies of their government.


121 posted on 03/19/2012 6:38:59 PM PDT by bigheadfred (SPIT)
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To: KantianBurke
From YOUR post #18

Huh? Considering how the accused violated General Order #1 by consuming alcohol in a war zone, went AWOL off of his lightly manned FOB (thus putting his fellow soldiers at risk) and proceeded to murder unarmed men, women & children, the issue of ROE’s is superfluous. If guilty this creep should hang.

You convicted him with your words above. Yes you stated, "IF". However, it is what you stated before that which gives us your state of mind. YOU believe him guilty already. In your mind there is no need to hold a trial.

Tell me, oh knowledgeable one, how many soldiers that have returned from Iraq/Afghanistan have been charged with committing violent crimes, including murder? Just because the action took place in a combat zone instead of in the soldier's home town doesn't preclude this from being a case of PTSD. While we are at this discussion, can you tell me how many soldiers have committed suicide, as opposed to experiencing a psychotic break leading to the commission of a violent crime (including murder)??? This question pertains to both here in the U.S. after returning from war, and those who have committed suicide while in a combat zone. You are one callous individual.

122 posted on 03/19/2012 6:40:09 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: jazusamo

lol, a walk down memory lane. I remember that exchange.


123 posted on 03/19/2012 6:40:59 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: KantianBurke
Nor can anyone still claim he was pure as snow.

Sure they can. They can say he copped a plea only for the purpose of ensuring that his children wouldn't be without their dad. And...surprise surprise...that was effectively the way the choice was presented to him.

He would hardly be the first person to plead to an inaccurate charge for personal reasons.

124 posted on 03/19/2012 6:44:27 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: xzins; jazusamo

Poster “KantianBurke” is a know-nothing troll and a scumbag, not even deserving of the courtesy of being pinged to this post. My recommendation is to ignore him/her/it and watch it go away from lack of attention.

FRegards,
LH


125 posted on 03/19/2012 6:44:55 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: bigheadfred; Girlene; KantianBurke

I take no pleasure in this and don’t relish spending the time to do it but as many people say, “history repeats itself” and KB is living proof.


126 posted on 03/19/2012 6:45:44 PM PDT by jazusamo (Character assassination is just another form of voter fraud: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Lancey Howard

Amen to that, Lancey!


127 posted on 03/19/2012 6:47:24 PM PDT by jazusamo (Character assassination is just another form of voter fraud: Thomas Sowell)
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To: xzins

Prayers up.


128 posted on 03/19/2012 6:47:47 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: xzins

Thank you for posting this. Brings tears to my eyes for poor Kari.


129 posted on 03/19/2012 6:49:45 PM PDT by Kaylee Frye
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To: BunnySlippers

Glad to know my intent was clear FRiend.

Take care, and may God bless.
Tatt


130 posted on 03/19/2012 6:49:56 PM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: SoldierDad
No man, after he is found guilty, and he will be, then we will carry out the sentence. It is called personal responsibility. You are accountable for your actions.
131 posted on 03/19/2012 6:51:27 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Lancey Howard; bigheadfred; jazusamo; Jim Robinson

Thanks, Lancey. You speak wisdom.

As far as I’m concerned KB should be a candidate for IBTZ. At a minimum, a conservative should believe that a battlefield is chaos.


132 posted on 03/19/2012 6:54:04 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: org.whodat

So, to you there are no mitigating circumstances which could or should be considered?


133 posted on 03/19/2012 6:55:25 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: org.whodat
No man, after he is found guilty, and he will be

Don't you believe in innocent until proven guilty for our troops on a chaotic battlefield?

134 posted on 03/19/2012 6:56:24 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: SoldierDad

Soldier dad, It may be possible this guy was thinking this would cause a great stir. He just might have snapped seeing his buddies injured and killed. I think he thought he was going to take one for his buddies, and try to put an end to the foolish ROE, and save his friends lives. This man is no coward, from what I read.


135 posted on 03/19/2012 6:57:29 PM PDT by lookout88 (.combat officer's dad)
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To: editor-surveyor; Future Snake Eater

Well back up thread. Here you go - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2860095/posts?page=1

FSE has several lengthy posts with his personal accounts of his service with the sergeant. Good men who have served our nation well.

May God give us strength.
Tatt


136 posted on 03/19/2012 6:57:41 PM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: xzins

They do.

As in, Rep. Weiner allegedly sent lewd text messages.


137 posted on 03/19/2012 6:58:25 PM PDT by NOVACPA
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To: xzins

They do.

As in, Rep. Weiner allegedly sent lewd text messages.


138 posted on 03/19/2012 6:58:50 PM PDT by NOVACPA
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To: xzins

They do.

As in, Rep. Weiner allegedly sent lewd text messages.


139 posted on 03/19/2012 6:59:13 PM PDT by NOVACPA
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To: lookout88

Perhaps so. I can’t get inside another’s head to know what was going through their mind just before engaging in any action. All I can hope for is that there will be a fair and impartial trial, in which some idea of why this happened comes to light.


140 posted on 03/19/2012 7:00:31 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: xzins

In the military, you prove you did not do it, just like if he claims mental, he needs to prove he was crazy. Not the same as civilian court. And this is military court.


141 posted on 03/19/2012 7:00:49 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: SoldierDad

Yes there is migrating standards, he disrespect the tens of thousands that went before him and did not up hold their honor.


142 posted on 03/19/2012 7:03:55 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: SoldierDad

This is my guess. We both had son’s in combat. We both know who should be responsible for this.


143 posted on 03/19/2012 7:04:28 PM PDT by lookout88 (.combat officer's dad)
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To: KantianBurke; jazusamo
I believe then and now that those Marines were guilty of the charges.

What a coincidence, I believe then and now that you are the illegitimate lovechild of John Murtha and Nancy Pelosi.

144 posted on 03/19/2012 7:06:39 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: org.whodat
It is not true that in a military court you have to prove your innocence.

The rights of soldiers at trial are no different than those of any other American citizen.

145 posted on 03/19/2012 7:08:37 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: org.whodat

You need to research the term, “mitigating”. You also should take a pill and relax.


146 posted on 03/19/2012 7:09:11 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: org.whodat

How much combat have you experienced?


147 posted on 03/19/2012 7:09:17 PM PDT by lookout88 (.combat officer's dad)
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To: smoothsailing

LOL!


148 posted on 03/19/2012 7:10:09 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: KantianBurke

LOL. This 60 minutes stuff is pure gold. I have never seen a freeper who was such a fan of those pinkos.


149 posted on 03/19/2012 7:10:25 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: smoothsailing

Really funny!


150 posted on 03/19/2012 7:11:31 PM PDT by lookout88 (.combat officer's dad)
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