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Dutch Roman Catholic Church 'castrated at least 10 boys'
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | March 19, 2012 | Bruno Waterfield

Posted on 03/20/2012 3:57:30 AM PDT by Bon mots

At least 10 teenage boys or young men under the age of 21 were surgically castrated "to get rid of homosexuality" while in the care of the Dutch Roman Catholic Church in the 1950s.

Evidence of the castrations has emerged amid controversy that it was not included in the findings of an official investigation into sexual abuse within the church last year.

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KEYWORDS: castration; church; homosexualagenda; pedophilia; scandal
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Unbelievable... these poor boys were first molested, then when they reported it, they were sent to mental institutions where they were castrated as punishment for reporting these sick, criminal priests.
1 posted on 03/20/2012 3:57:42 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: Bon mots

‘Gelderland’?

interesting choice of names.


2 posted on 03/20/2012 4:04:52 AM PDT by Vaquero (Molon Labe)
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To: Bon mots
The elephant in the room -- the one thing that is never discussed in all these stories of sexual abuse in the Catholic Church -- is that it is obvious that homosexuals joined the priesthood to further their predatory goals. How high did that go? I don't know. But the Catholic Church was definitely a magnet for homosexual predators. How could that be otherwise? Why is that never discussed? Whatever the blame that the church itself deserves, at least part of the blame should be reserved for homosexuals -- and homosexuality.

But that is never discussed. Why?

3 posted on 03/20/2012 4:06:12 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: samtheman

They joined the clergy (Catholic and otherwise) for the same reason they became scoutmasters & teachers: easy prey.

During the height of the scandal the Catholic League reported five incidents in five days in NYC public schools - and it received NO coverage. At least the Vatican has banned “celibate” deviants from the seminaries; that was long overdue, and cost them millions (on top of the faith of many of the victims).


4 posted on 03/20/2012 4:10:08 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: kearnyirish2
and cost them millions (on top of the faith of many of the victims).

just the victims? more people than that I fear.

5 posted on 03/20/2012 4:12:31 AM PDT by Vaquero (Molon Labe)
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To: kearnyirish2
They joined the clergy (Catholic and otherwise) for the same reason they became scoutmasters & teachers: easy prey.

Just as Judas was one of the 12 original apostles, evil was following Our Lord.

6 posted on 03/20/2012 4:17:29 AM PDT by AmericaUnite (Jesus bent down and began to write on the ground with his finger. John Ch 8)
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To: Vaquero

“just the victims? more people than that I fear.”

True, though I must say people who hadn’t been to Mass since 1985 used this story from 2002 to justify it retroactively. True Catholics know that men cannot undo the Church founded by Christ (though they should also think twice before donating).


7 posted on 03/20/2012 4:22:01 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: AmericaUnite

Evil was just following the children; our Lord’s Church was just the vehicle for these freaks.


8 posted on 03/20/2012 4:23:12 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: Bon mots

“There are also allegations that Vic Marijnen, a former Dutch Prime Minister, who died in 1975, was linked to the case. “

There is a lot more to this story than meets the eye.


9 posted on 03/20/2012 4:39:37 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Breitbart)
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To: Bon mots

That’s just nuts!


10 posted on 03/20/2012 5:31:11 AM PDT by crosshairs
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To: samtheman

I’ll tell you how high it goes, because we know:

In 1965, a black mass* was held within the Vatican. Pope Paul VI possibly knew for he famously yet cryptically declared that “the smoke of Satan has entered the sanctuary.” But apparently, he did not know who was involved. Maddenlingly, Paul VI would issue orthodox, strong, clear dogmatic teaching, such as Humanae Vitae, upholding Catholic doctrines on sexuality, abortion, and birth control, while allowing all manner of liturgical abuse and heresy to not only flourish, but propagate.

One top contender was Fr. Joseph Bernadin, the papal camerlingo (the camerlingo runs the papal household) from Charleston, SC. Charleston is where the Southern Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, which uses a black mass, was founded. Bernadin would, very seperately, be accused of molesting children with the eucharist, which is where any Catholics’ heads should absolutely explode.

Bernadin nonetheless became the golden boy in the American Catholic church. He was promoted to Archbishop of Cincinnati, where he was made the founding head of the National Council of Catholic Bishops (later the USCCB). There, he founded the Catholic Campaign for Human Development, which provides seed money for radical, leftist groups. One group they founded was the ACORN, led by satanist and anarchist Saul Alinsky, whose disciples include Barrack Obama and Hillary Clinton.

At the head of the USCCB, he authorized the publication of the New American Bible, the first edition of which falsely claimed that the ancient church believed in a flat earth, denied the historicity of miracles in the New and Old testament, and included heresy after heresy in the footnotes. (If you anyone owns a New American Bible, and is objecting, hang with me a bit more...) The USCCB made the NAB the required bible of the American Catholic church (which is not to say that people couldn’t privately own other bibles).

Back in the 1960s, priests working with Alinsky had been booted from Chicago when the local archbishop realized how evil they were. They were quickly snatched up by the University of Notre Dame, which soon the Land of Lakes conference. At that conference, nearly every major Catholic university in the United States would declare its intellectual separation from the doctrines of Rome. But in 1982, Bernadin would be made Archbishop of Chicago, and soon would be considered “the American pope.”

As de-facto leader of the Catholic church, Bernadin taught that abortion was wrong, but that voters should consider the totality of a candidate’s charity; there support for “social justice” throughout a lifespan could outweigh the passing mistake of supporting abortion. Meanwhile, he shared an apartment with Milwaukee Archbishop Weakland, who is now openly homosexual. Bernadin and Weakland had both been accused of raping children. Weakland, through his association with Bernadin, ran the liturgical “reforms” of the American Catholic church.

But in 1978, an exorcist was made Pope. At first, he seemingly took the counsel of his papal nuncios and national leaders, having further promoted Bernadin, Mahony, Weakland, etc., But by 1980, at least, the surging tide of homosexual abuse began to decline, according to the analysis by John Jay study. By 1990, the rate had declined over 95%. Almost all of the news stories you hear about even today involve abuse which happened in the first half of John Paul II’s reign, or earlier.

John Paul II appointed as his enforcer of doctrine yet another exorcist, Joseph Ratzinger. You have to understand how rare 20th-century, European exorcists are, to understand what a truly amazing situation it is that the Catholic Church has been led by successive exorcists. By Vatican II, exorcism, used largely to missionize pagan lands, was virtually unheard of in Europe... for hundreds of years!!!

Now, many people have complained that John Paul II and Benedict XVI have “covered up” the abuse. The truth is that long before the media got wind of the problem, abuse rates fell by 95%. I believe, however, that the heretics and informally schismatic rebels controlled far too much of the Catholic church for such a direct campaign.

Had the pope merely ousted the bad guys, they simply would have declared open schism, announced that the Holy Spirit had led them to further reforms “in the spirit of Vatican II,” and they would have ended the institution of the papacy, leading the Catholic Church into a position like the Episcopalian Church, where homosexuality is simply celebrated. Remember, nearly all of the sex-abuse victims were post-pubescent. The response would simply be to “help abuse victims shed their repression, and fully embrace the sexuality God gave them.”

Don’t think that this isn’t happening in other churches! Satan is attacking all Christian churches. He doesn’t even need to do any wierd stuff in the Liberal churches; his minions run them: the Episcopal Church, the United Methodist Church, the United Church of Christ, the PCUSA (”first Presbyterian”), the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, etc. Don’t abandon these churches! Reclaim the for Christ! Understand that you are fighting a spiritual battle, and you can defeat the present leaders!!!

Pray for correct doctrine in your church.

Pray for correct worship, that all worship will truly be submission to Christ.

Pray to drive out the devil.

But also, beware in the conservative churches. In the Catholic Churches, the virginity of a priest is most valuable; in other churches, the virginity of a young woman is, so the diabolical attacks are on young women. But the sex abuse is rampant, and is being covered up by the church leaders, just as the Catholic Church leaders covered up sexual abuse in the 1970s and 1980s.

Most fraternities and sororities uses sexual degradation and desensitization as part of their initiation. Do not accept people from these fraternities and sororities into your church leadership, unless their repentance has been clear, and their specific sins detailed.

How many church leaders are freemasons? Yes, Washington, et al, were freemasons, but those freemasons had only three degrees, and none of the pagan worship. The Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry introduced 33 degrees of progressively more pagan rites.

(*Note of explanation: according to Catholic doctrine, a black mass is a mass which makes a mockery of Christ, His Church, His Word, or His Eucharist. In doing such, they are inherently diabolical. They do not necessarily have any obvious worship of the devil. At the same time, any old-time Catholic would recognize the mass as invalid: use of invalid elements in confecting the eucharist, such as honey bread, impure wine, non-noble vessels; omission of key prayers; avoidance of the Holy Name; heretical innovations within key prayers. Malachi Martin’s depiction was quite apparently Satanic, but his account is fictionalized.)


11 posted on 03/20/2012 5:33:09 AM PDT by dangus
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“Most fraternities and sororities uses sexual degradation and desensitization as part of their initiation.”

Just your fraternity, mate. mine didn’t.


12 posted on 03/20/2012 5:38:55 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: dangus

That connects a lot of dots, especially regarding “Land of Lakes.”


13 posted on 03/20/2012 5:39:17 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: Bon mots

What a fool believes.


14 posted on 03/20/2012 5:40:38 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (knowledge puffeth; information deludeth.)
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To: dangus

I forgot to include my explanation about the New American Bible.

Since it’s initial publication, the Vatican has directed drastic overhauls. This is why many Catholics will scratch their heads at my initial description. Among Vatican-ordered inclusions:

* Removal of many heretical and faith-depressing notes

* An inclusion of a doctrinal statement that the bible is the inerrant Word of God; Saying that this statement demands the literal interpretation would be an over-simplification; there’s some nuancing on literary styles, given the use of metaphors, but I’d dare say that fundamentalists and evangelicals would approve of such nuance; it’s a direct rebuttal of the sort of “myth” blather from the first edition.

* A substantial re-translation of the Old Testament in the 2nd edition, and of the New Testament in the 3rd edition.

It’s still not my favorite translation. It needlessly translates some idioms, losing not only some of the poetry, but the spirituality, of older translations and the original text. (Is there really any danger someone might thing that St. Stephen took a nap as he was being stoned? Can’t they see where “fell asleep” inspires faith in ways that “died” doesn’t?) But the rampant heresy is gone.


15 posted on 03/20/2012 5:44:06 AM PDT by dangus
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To: AppyPappy

I never joined a fraternity. On my campus (and this was before some reforms were necessitated by an endless string of deaths, nationally), the “marketing” was purely about binge-drinking, and thus, didn’t interest me in the slightest. What fraternity were you in?

(I never could understand how they were allowed to post signs advertising to 18-year-olds for on-campus parties with 60! 70! 150! kegs. Nor could I understand why they needed 60, 70, 150 kegs for parties which I imagine couldn’t’ve been for more than 100 or 200 students.)


16 posted on 03/20/2012 5:49:35 AM PDT by dangus
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To: NYer

Your comment please.


17 posted on 03/20/2012 5:52:17 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: dangus

So if you were never in a fraternity, how do you know what they do?

We didn’t have “binge-drinking” back then. We just drank.

“I never could understand how they were allowed to post signs advertising to 18-year-olds for on-campus parties with 60! 70! 150! kegs”

Probably the First Amendment had something to do with it. You didn’t have to use that many kegs.


18 posted on 03/20/2012 5:54:32 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: dangus

>> Don’t abandon these churches! <<

I rather wish I had chosen different wording. As a Catholic, I believe that those led by the Holy Spirit to do so, MUST come to the Catholic Church. But however imperfect the Protestant churches are, the Holy Spirit does work within them, and those who know Christ can produce, through the working of the Holy Spirit within them.

What I wanted to express is my opposition to the solution of simply abandoning all Christian institutions to Satan, by ever finer splintering of denominational families. Clinging to life-rafts is no way to raise an armada. If, while fighting such spiritual warfare, anyone is inspired to join the Catholic church, praise God! But I expect that any Protestant may seem the wisdom of my encouragement to prayer; if they disagree with where it might take them, so be it.


19 posted on 03/20/2012 6:02:56 AM PDT by dangus
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To: AppyPappy

>> Probably the First Amendment had something to do with it. <<

Oh, sure, you’re free to say, “Hey, Look at me! I’m committing a crime!!!” But if you get busted for that crime, don’t complain that it’s your first amendment rights which were violated; it’s the crime that’s at issue, the foolish announcement just led the police to the crime.

By the way, from a natural-law perspective, I don’t believe that 18-year-olds drinking is a crime. I lament that raising the drinking age drove people into fraternities, where binge drinking absolutely was an epidemic in the late 1980s. Previously, any few freinds could share some booze in their dorms, or go to a bar... after they raised the drinking age, they had to put up with all that frat crap.

Don’t tell me there wasn’t binge drinking. The floor of the dorm halls were coated in puke on any given Saturday morning... and everyone was saying, “oh, man, I got so f***ing wasted!!!” Not to mention the drunken screaming out the windows, the stench of bongwater...


20 posted on 03/20/2012 6:16:50 AM PDT by dangus
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