Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Why Obama Will Lose in November
CNS News ^ | 3/19/2012 | Alan Caruba

Posted on 03/20/2012 8:12:09 AM PDT by IbJensen

I received a campaign letter from Michelle Obama the other day. This is especially surprising because I am a registered Republican; hardly a likely prospect to contribute to her husband’s reelection efforts.

“Every day I learn about the challenges and the struggles—the doctor bills they can’t pay or the mortgage they can no longer afford,” said the text. The “fairness” theme, a socialist meme, was expressed. “American prospers when we are all in this together, when hard work pays off and responsibility is rewarded, when everyone—from Main Street to Wall Street—does their fair share and plays by the same rules.”

The fact is, however, America has not been prospering for the last four years during which Barack Obama has been President. And everyone knows it. The U.S. sovereign debt rating was downgraded for the first time while he occupied the Oval Office. Federal spending (25% of GDP) is the highest since World War Two. Federal debt (67% of GDP) is the highest since just after the end of World War II, and the nation has experienced, not only the longest recession, but the highest unemployment since the 1930s.

In the first nineteen months of his term, Obama added more federal debt than was amassed by all U.S. Presidents from George Washington to Ronald Reagan.

I have two theories about the November 6 election. (1) That it will be an overwhelming defeat for Obama or (2) that it will be so close we could see a situation comparable to the Bush-Kerry election in 2004.

Obama’s Achilles’ heel is, of course, Obamacare. As Robert Bluey of The Heritage Foundation notes, recent polls indicate that 53% of Americans favor repeal and more than half (57%) say that the Supreme Court should strike it down as unconstitutional. Fully 60% of physicians believe the law will have a negative impact on overall patient care.

The Congressional Budget Office revisited Obamacare this past week and concluded that 20 million Americans could lose their employer-sponsored health benefits and 49 million more Americans could become dependent on government-sponsored health care. Projecting through 2022, Obamacare could cost as much as $2.134 billion and the employer-mandate penalties could hit $221 billion.

There’s another reason why Michelle Obama was writing to me last week. As Karl Rove noted in a Wall Street Journal March 14 commentary, “Many of Mr. Obama’s 2008 donors are reluctant to give again” to his campaign. “As the Obama campaign itself reported, fewer than 7% of 2008 donors renewed their support in the first quarter of his re-election campaign, well below the typical renewal rate.

The Obama campaign and the Democratic National Committee are burning through current donations so fast that the White House has told this year’s congressional candidates that they will not receive any funding support for their campaigns because Obama needs all the money.

While Obama’s 2012 campaign is already showing signs of stress, other issues will impose great pressure. Unemployment affects most American families either directly or because some member of the family or a friend is unemployed. Even the unemployed vote.

The price of gasoline continues to rise. Releasing oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve that exists for use only in an emergency is not a solution, and Americans are well aware that this administration has opposed or thwarted every effort to drill for more oil on federal lands. The failures of “green energy” companies that have cost Americans billions in loan guarantees are well known. A President who hypes “algae” as an energy solution will be seen as a fool and/or a complete charlatan.

Recent polls indicate how close the 2012 election may be. Obama has lost ground among female voters. In a head-to-head match-up with Mitt Romney, women voters back Obama 49%, but that is seven points lower than 2008. A Rasmussen poll found that 59% of likely voters asked whether Obama is more liberal or more conservative than they are answered that he was more liberal. Of these likely voters, 65% who are also union members thought Obama was more liberal than themselves.

Polling firms have been asking Americans to self identify themselves as conservative or liberal for decades. In February 2012, Gallup polling revealed “that in every single state with the exception of Massachusetts” conservatives outnumbered liberals.

The Battleground Poll conducted by George Washington University in collaboration with Democrat and Republican polling organizations found that 58% of Americans described themselves as “very conservative” or “somewhat conservative”, while only 37% described themselves as “very liberal” or “somewhat liberal.”

A conservative campaign message will win in 2012 and this explains why the Republican primaries are all about candidates striving to describe themselves as a “true conservative.”

Even the mainstream media are showing less enthusiasm for Obama. When even The Washington Post rejects Obama’s lies about U.S. oil reserves, as it did on March 15th, it suggests there may be a growing, wider level of disenchantment with the man they embraced in 2008.

Obama will lose in November. It may be a very close election or it may be an overwhelming rejection, but the polling numbers and the state of the economy will be the deciding factors.

Memo to Michelle Obama: The “fairness” message is not working. The appalling failures—“stimulus” anyone?—of Obama’s first term will ensure that there will be no second term.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: communism; evilregime; obozo; whitehut
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-53 next last
I've long suspected the Republican leadership has been deeply and permanently compromised by career-destroying dirt the Left has on them. Sexual set-ups, honeypots, corruption, whatever it takes. Nothing else explains their impotence in the face of the Republic's sure and impending destruction.

Either that or they are truly ALL oligarchical frauds. That too would explain it; Republicans in power are content to be the loyal, permanent opposition - spouting off at the mouth during campaigns to ensure votes but never QUITE doing what they know needs to be done to reverse the rot. This would also explain their repeated shutting out of any candidate who even smells like a true conservative.

Either way, barring a true miracle, I believe our Republic is already irreversibly brain dead and on life support.

So why are Republicans overwhelming choosing Mitt Romney as the standard bearer? Of all those left in the race, Mitt is the most like Obama. Gay marriage, left wing judges, raising not taxes, but fees, and Romneycare the forrunner to Obamacare. By the way, Romney got federal monies for both the Olympics and for Romneycare. This is how he was able to turn a "profit" on the Olympics.

1 posted on 03/20/2012 8:12:14 AM PDT by IbJensen
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: IbJensen

If Rick Santorum is our nominee, Obama will lose big time. If Newt is our nominee, it will be close but he will win. If Romney is our nominee, I don’t think we will win it.


2 posted on 03/20/2012 8:15:09 AM PDT by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: IbJensen

The Obamas care about no one other than themselves, and their feigned concern for others — cynically expressed by dumping cash to favored constituents — is nothing but their means to power.


3 posted on 03/20/2012 8:17:15 AM PDT by AtlasStalled
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: IbJensen
“Many of Mr. Obama’s 2008 donors are reluctant to give again” to his campaign.

Could this be because most substantial donors are really investors seeking financial returns, but Obama thought these people were really giving because they loved him?

ML/NJ

4 posted on 03/20/2012 8:18:18 AM PDT by ml/nj
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: IbJensen
“American prospers when we are all in this together, when hard work pays off and responsibility is rewarded, when everyone—from Main Street to Wall Street—does their fair share and plays by the same rules.”

An increasingly perverse characterization in a society where 45% don't pay any federal tax at all, public employees get special benefits the rest of us don't & 50 million Americans (and non-Americans) are on public assistance.

Its especially demented coming from a woman who stepped into the white house from a $350k/yr patronage position and can't seem to squeeze enough vacation time into her schedule.

5 posted on 03/20/2012 8:23:06 AM PDT by skeeter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: IbJensen
If the election was fair, zero would lose. But it won't be. The liberals will pull out all the stops, even blatant cheating, to win for zero.

Zero will win re-election thanks to illegal voting, multiple voting, dead voting and supression of the military vote.

6 posted on 03/20/2012 8:28:00 AM PDT by jeffc (Prayer. It's freedom of speech.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: IbJensen

Looks like Republicans have been hijacked by a non conservative faction.


7 posted on 03/20/2012 8:30:26 AM PDT by Republican1795.
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: napscoordinator

Even if Santorum didn’t stand a chance against Obama, I would still vote for him over Romney or Gingrich. My wife and I have decided that if Romney wins the primary, we are choosing not to vote for a president in the General Election. We will still vote for Senators and everything else, but we’ll just do a write-in for president.

To vote for a candidate you do not like still means you support them. As much as I do not want 4 more years of Obama, I believe even more strongly that I do not want to send a message to the GOP that I support their rhinos.


8 posted on 03/20/2012 8:30:27 AM PDT by Marko413
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: IbJensen
The Congressional Budget Office revisited Obamacare this past week and concluded that 20 million Americans could lose their employer-sponsored health benefits and 49 million more Americans could become dependent on government-sponsored health care . . .

Wasn't the horror of 20 million uninsured Americans the main reason that ObamaCare was rammed through in the first place?

9 posted on 03/20/2012 8:37:19 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: napscoordinator

—If Romney is our nominee, I don’t think we will win it.—

I agree. And in no small part because of the people like me that will vote for neither him nor Obama. I use the analogy of being a Jew trying to decide between Hitler and Stalin.


10 posted on 03/20/2012 8:38:22 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: IbJensen

—Obamacare could cost as much as $2.134 billion and the employer-mandate penalties could hit $221 billion. —

I assume he means “trillion”. 2.134 billion really isn’t much.


11 posted on 03/20/2012 8:39:58 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Marko413

You have a right to your own conscience, of course. Myself, my attitude is: I am always voting for the lesser of two evils. There’s been no perfect candidate, and I include Reagan, who had a divorce history (not as bad as Newt’s!), legalized abortion in California (although he apparently deeply regretted it) and did a massive illegal immigration grab.

So I vote for the candidate that I think will do the least harm; and the most good.


12 posted on 03/20/2012 8:40:34 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: IbJensen

—While Obama’s 2012 campaign is already showing signs of stress, other issues will impose great pressure. Unemployment affects most American families either directly or because some member of the family or a friend is unemployed. Even the unemployed vote. —

This reminds me of why the anti-war movement was so effective against the Vietnam war, but not the war in Iraq. In the former, almost everyone knew a kid who was killed over there. It mattered.

As it will matter in November regarding unemployment.


13 posted on 03/20/2012 8:41:38 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: cuban leaf

Choosing the lesser of two evils still garners evil.

Vote for the best viable candidate come November ... then prepare for very bad times.


14 posted on 03/20/2012 8:44:34 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Marko413
My wife and I have decided that if Romney wins the primary, we are choosing not to vote for a president in the General Election.

That is your right, of course, but in my mind that's a vote for Obama. I'm not a Mitt fan either, but getting Obama out of the White House trumps ALL this time. If Romney wins it all, then a conservative Congress will help keep him in check.

15 posted on 03/20/2012 8:58:21 AM PDT by Kharis13 (That noise you hear is our Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: IbJensen

I suspect that the average person—not aware Freepers, mind you, but the average, exhausted, hard-working, fundamentally conservative person who isn’t that deeply involved in politics—does not know the backstory on Mitt. He seems nice, he’s attractive, he sounds conservative, and he’s not Obama. That’s what they see. They see Newt as an angry guy who almost never smiles, even if he’s smart, and isn’t there something fishy about his past, they ask? They think Santorum looks nice too but he keeps saying out-there things that make them uncomfortable and make them wonder how he’d face down the nut-jobs in the Middle East if he talks about sex so much. So they vote for Romney with a shrug. They just aren’t that well-informed.


16 posted on 03/20/2012 9:17:50 AM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: cuban leaf
The ENEMEDIA is gonna make voting for Willard the same as voting for Adolph.

Doesn't matter how much bling Mitty has.

The ENEMEDIA has UNLIMITED, and they will convince everyone he is the second coming of der Fuehrer.

17 posted on 03/20/2012 9:29:33 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Mohammedan law every woman must belong to a man will delay the end of slavery until Islam has ceased)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Marko413
As much as I do not want 4 more years of Obama, I believe even more strongly that I do not want to send a message to the GOP that I support their rhinos.

This country won't survive four more years of Obama. Obamacare will be firmly in place--irreversible. And his czars and continued spending will place us on a path to a Greek-like meltdown. In fact, it may already be too late given the huge debt Obama and the Dem Congress racked up in a little over three years--more than the total accrued from Presidents Washington thru Clinton and now more than Bush 43 incurred in eight years.

You can send whatever message you want to the GOP, but it will be meaningless and irrelevant. It is akin to rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. Given what is at stake, i.e., the survival of the Republic, "anybody but Obama" should be the objective of patriots.

18 posted on 03/20/2012 9:33:35 AM PDT by kabar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: cuban leaf
This reminds me of why the anti-war movement was so effective against the Vietnam war, but not the war in Iraq. In the former, almost everyone knew a kid who was killed over there. It mattered.

The biggest reason why it reasonated was we had the Draft, making everyone who couldn't get a deferment, eligible to being sent there. We had an all-volunteer military in Iraq.

As a Vietnam vet, I am not in favor of reinstitution of the Draft. Our forces are much more professional, better trained, and more committed than we were.

19 posted on 03/20/2012 9:38:50 AM PDT by kabar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: ctdonath2

—Choosing the lesser of two evils still garners evil.—

What if there is no “lesser”. Should I draw straws?


20 posted on 03/20/2012 9:42:50 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Kharis13
My wife and I have decided that if Romney wins the primary, we are choosing not to vote for a president in the General Election.

That is your right, of course, but in my mind that's a vote for Obama. I'm not a Mitt fan either, but getting Obama out of the White House trumps ALL this time. If Romney wins it all, then a conservative Congress will help keep him in check.

This needs to be repeated on a daily basis if Mitt is the nominee...not my candidate either BUT this nation will not survive another 4 years of this lawless regime.

21 posted on 03/20/2012 9:45:40 AM PDT by Prov1322 (Enjoy my wife's incredible artwork at www.watercolorARTwork.com! (This space no longer for rent))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: IbJensen

OBAToast 2012


22 posted on 03/20/2012 9:49:49 AM PDT by FrankR
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kabar

—Our forces are much more professional, better trained, and more committed than we were.—

And lets be blunt. Technology has matured to the point that we just don’t need as many men as we once did, relative to the number of men who would volunteer.


23 posted on 03/20/2012 9:50:35 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: ml/nj

“Could this be because most substantial donors are really investors seeking financial returns...”

###

I think they were crooks looking for an inside track.

See Bernie Madoff’s clientele....


24 posted on 03/20/2012 9:53:47 AM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: IbJensen

If Romney is the Republican nominee, it won’t matter who wins. We lose.


25 posted on 03/20/2012 9:56:12 AM PDT by Antoninus (Romney Inc. -- Now attempting a hostile takeover of the Republican Party.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: IbJensen

Obama is afraid of Newt because he knows Newt would hand his head on a platter every time that had a debate or discussion on virtually any topic. He’s afraid of Newt’s ability to articulate fundamental republican principles over the marxist dogma Obama espouses.

If Newt is not the Nominee, and if we win in 2012, Newt should be made the Secretary of State.

If Santorum is not the nominee, make him the US Attorney General.

Make Paul the Secretary of the Treasury.

Romeny, if he is not the nominee, would be an excellent head of the economic council.

West for Secretary of Defense.

What an unbelievable GOP cabinet could be created by the individuals that we have. And if they were working with large majorities in the Hosue and Senate, we could make unbelievable progress in turning things around and in have a 12-16 year run that fundamentally restores America to its roots and its stength as a nation, economically, foreign policy wise, defense wise, and socially.

AMERICA AT THE CROSSROADS OF HISTORY
http://www.jeffhead.com/crossroads.htm

IF I WERE PRESIDENT, HERE’S WHAT I’D DO
http://www.jeffhead.com/aspres.htm


26 posted on 03/20/2012 10:05:22 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: cuban leaf
And since we have such dependence on advanced technology, we need to invest more time and money in training. We can't afford a revolving door military.

We have not been overwhelmed with volunteers. We are meeting our quotas, but that could be affected if the economy recovers.

The reductions in our forces are due in large part to budget cuts, which are driving force levels rather than techonolgy and mission. We are entering the familiar phase of declining powers when "guns versus butter" dominates funding levels.

27 posted on 03/20/2012 10:08:06 AM PDT by kabar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: Jeff Head
"Obama is afraid of Newt because he knows Newt would hand his head on a platter every time that had a debate or discussion on virtually any topic."

If Newt does get the nomination, watch the media introduce a new debate format that will neutralize this advantage. Don't know what it might be, I just know that's what will happen.

28 posted on 03/20/2012 10:16:30 AM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Jeff Head
"Obama is afraid of Newt because he knows Newt would hand his head on a platter every time that had a debate or discussion on virtually any topic."

If Newt does get the nomination, watch the media introduce a new debate format that will neutralize this advantage. Don't know what it might be, I just know that's what will happen.

29 posted on 03/20/2012 10:17:05 AM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: kabar

When I think of our future military, I apply things like this and what it can easily lead to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQIMGV5vtd4


30 posted on 03/20/2012 10:20:40 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: jeffc
If the election was fair, zero would lose. But it won't be. The liberals will pull out all the stops, even blatant cheating, to win for zero. Zero will win re-election thanks to illegal voting, multiple voting, dead voting and supression of the military vote.

All of these are portion but who is counting the votes? A computer system that is not allowed to vent & has no checks & balances. The computer experts know this. They can tweak the voting to the outcome they want.The whole voting system is a complete joke.

31 posted on 03/20/2012 10:29:29 AM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection then failure is your election)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: IbJensen

Just say NO to Socialism - it’s easy if you have any self-pride.


32 posted on 03/20/2012 10:32:20 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kharis13
then a conservative Congress will help keep him in check.

You mean like how the current conservative Congress is keeping Obama in check?

33 posted on 03/20/2012 10:34:22 AM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Brass, copper, lead. The new precious metals.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Marko413
My wife and I have decided that if Romney wins the primary, we are choosing not to vote for a president in the General Election

Let's get real here. Do you want two or more Kagans on the Supreme Court? There can be nothing worse than Big Ears back for 4 yrs unchecked. Again I say, get real.

34 posted on 03/20/2012 10:34:54 AM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection then failure is your election)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: kabar
You can send whatever message you want to the GOP, but it will be meaningless and irrelevant. It is akin to rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. Given what is at stake, i.e., the survival of the Republic, "anybody but Obama" should be the objective of patriots.

Even if Ronald Reagan rose from the dead and ran for president this time around, do you really think that one man in the office is going to be able to reverse the decades of corruption and Marxist infiltration of virtually every institution in this country? The simple answer is not "no", but "hell no". Now add to that the idea of someone like Romney in the office. Not only will the direction of this country not change, but he will most likely actively continue most of the worst policies.

In other words, we might as well go for the best guy out there, whether he wins or loses, because either way this country is going down. I would almost prefer the collapse occur within the next few years while I am still young enough to help squash the commies and rebuild.
35 posted on 03/20/2012 10:41:15 AM PDT by fr_freak
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Digger

More meaningless scare tactics. Non of the conservative supreme court justices or even Kennedy has to retire in the next 4 years. Usually these folks serve until they cannot serve anymore. If Republicans keep the House they can keep Obama in check and he would not be able to do anything significant.


36 posted on 03/20/2012 10:44:10 AM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: ml/nj

or it is disinformation intended to lull conservatives into a false sense of security.

(like obama not helping democrats in congress)

we have to keep fighting and keep moving and most importantly keep talking to others.


37 posted on 03/20/2012 10:44:31 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: GourmetDan

They will certainly try...but I do not believe Newt will play aloong. He ate the MSM alive in the debates with the other GOP contenders.

I like his plan to inisist on a certain number of Lincoln style debates and to follow Obama around, speaking after him in each city, hammering it home until Obama agrees.

But, Obama simply will not agree. It will make a difference to you and me...but we would be voting for Newt anyway. Independents will probably be impacted by it...but the vast majority of Obama cupporters simply do not care. he is their meat wagon and they will vote for him no matter what.

We just need to get the base out and have the independents come over because of the disasterous policies...and I believe we can make that happen.


38 posted on 03/20/2012 10:45:15 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: Digger

If that’s how you really feel you should consider changing your sig. Just trying to help you there.


39 posted on 03/20/2012 10:49:34 AM PDT by Marko413
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: kabar

The country has survived way worth than Obama throughout her history and not only we have survived but also we have prospered and have become more powerful and more advanced than any other nation in history of mankind. Yes we can survive 4 more years of Obama if we have to and if we keep the House, most probably the case, then Obama damage would be greatly limited. In fact historically Obama has so far done far less damage in implementing socialism than FDR or even LBJ. Obama is probably the worst socialist President in term of rhetoric but his actions are much weaker than his rhetoric because he is weak and incompetent and for this we are fortunate.


40 posted on 03/20/2012 10:50:09 AM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: jveritas

worth = worse


41 posted on 03/20/2012 10:52:57 AM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: Marko413

You have remember - you’re voting AGAINST Obama, not for Mitt.
I know it stinks on ice, but there it is.


42 posted on 03/20/2012 11:09:05 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: jveritas
The country has survived way worth than Obama throughout her history and not only we have survived but also we have prospered and have become more powerful and more advanced than any other nation in history of mankind.

By survive, I mean retaining the values and vision of our founders. In addition to Obama's out of control spending and transforming this country into a socialist utopia, there are other circumstances surrounding this nation's fate that need to be addressed by someone other than the most radical person ever to occupy the WH.

Demographically, this nation is changing rapidily. The U.S. adds one international migrant (net) every 36 seconds. Immigrants account for one in 8 U.S. residents, the highest level in more than 90 years. In 1970 it was one in 21; in 1980 it was one in 16; and in 1990 it was one in 13. In a decade, it will be one in 7, the highest it has been in our history. And by 2050, one in 5 residents of the U.S. will be foreign-born.

87 percent of the 1.2 million legal immigrants entering annually are minorities as defined by the U.S. Government and almost all of the illegal aliens are minorities. By 2019 half of the children 18 and under in the U.S. will be classified as minorities and by 2039, half of the residents of this country will be minorities. Generally, immigrants and minorities vote predominantly for the Democrat Party. Hence, Democrats view immigration as a never-ending source of voters that will make them the permanent majority party.

Since the 1965 Immigration Act, our pro-population growth immigration policies have fueled major demographic changes in a very short period of time. In 1970, non-Hispanic whites comprised 89 percent of the population; today they are 66 percent; and by 2039, they will be 50 percent. The Democrats, under the banner of multiculturalism and diversity, have forged a political coalition that depends on individuals coalescing around racial and ethnic identities rather than the issues. The continuing and increasing flow of minority immigrants, mostly poor and uneducated, provides a natural constituency for the Democrats, which see them as their principal source of political power.

We have created a culture of dependency with almost half of the population receiving a government check. There are 54 million on SS, 47 million on Medicare, 60 million on Medicaid, and 46 million on food stamps. Those numbers will go up dramatically in the next 20 years due to an aging population and Obamacare, which will add 18 million to Medicaid. By 2030, one in five in this country will be 65 or older, twice what it is now, and there will be only two workers for every retiree.

Four more years of Obama will ensure that nothing is done to roll back the welfare state or to make significant cuts in government spending. If interest rates rise back to historic rates, we could be spending a trillion dollars a year in just debt servicing costs. If that happens, the whole house of cards comes tumbling down.

Obama's czars will continue to regulate this country to death and money will continue to flow to green energy. Taxes will not be cut, but rather, raised come January 2013.

Yes we can survive 4 more years of Obama if we have to and if we keep the House, most probably the case, then Obama damage would be greatly limited. In fact historically Obama has so far done far less damage in implementing socialism than FDR or even LBJ. Obama is probably the worst socialist President in term of rhetoric but his actions are much weaker than his rhetoric because he is weak and incompetent and for this we are fortunate.

First, we are not the same country that existed under FDR or LBJ. We were not the world's biggest debtor nation. We didn't have debt equal to our GDP. And now the chickens are coming home to roost in terms of the welfare state. Our aging society will bankrupt this nation.

Obamacare will be the final nail in our coffin. It will not only bankrupt us, but it will undermine the Constitution to the point that it will be meaningless in terms of controlling the power of governmemnt. Obama is the most dangerous man ever to occupy the office. His policies will have a long term impact that will only be felt full years from now.

Obama, our first black President, will divide this fragile nation along race and ethnic lines to ensure that the Dem Party becomes the permanent majority party as the demographics continue to change and America is a minority nation by 2039. The vision and values of our Founders will continue to come under attack as they are portrayed as rich white racists who didn't and wouldn't accept an America run by "people who didn't look like them."

An America divided facing profound economic challenges with places our Republic in grave danger. Four more years of Obama will be the tipping point in our history from which we will never recover. Great nations rise and fall. America is in decline and Obama will just hasten the process.

43 posted on 03/20/2012 11:28:54 AM PDT by kabar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: IbJensen

My spam filter has been catching several obama emails the last few weeks. I don’t know if a practical joker friend put me on their list, or if the marxists have harvested emails from big lists and are emailing everyone.


44 posted on 03/20/2012 11:31:42 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kabar
Oh please stop the drama. Yeah we are in more dangerous time now then when we were during the Civil War or the Great Depression, or Word War II, or Vietnam, etc…... Get real folks… It seems that there are always people who each day say that this is the end of America as we know it is unless this and that happen… All BS and sky is falling foolishness.

We have a very long way to go before we reach a point where we need to even worry about not being the most powerful and most advanced nation in history of mankind, I will say two centuries if not more…

45 posted on 03/20/2012 11:40:19 AM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: jveritas
Some evidence that America is changing philosophically, a reflection of how effective the Left has been in taking over our educational system.

Americans tire of "free market," says poll

A 2009 Rasmussen poll showed that only 53 percent of American adults believe capitalism is better than socialism, and that a full third of U.S. citizens under 30 believe socialism is a superior system.

The international polling firm GlobeScan asked 12,884 people in 25 countries whether they agreed or disagreed with the following statement: "The free market system and free market economy is the best system on which to base the future of the world."

Apparently, only 59 percent of Americans - with a margin of error of around four points - "strongly agreed" (37 percent) or "somewhat agreed" (22 percent). 80 percent of people in the U.S. picked one of these two options in 2002, and as recently as 2008 - when the number started a precipitous decline - more than 70 percent still gave the free market a thumbs up.

For a couple of months, every sentence from Republican officials and Fox News personalities had to include the word "socialism" while attacking the president. It didn't have much of an effect. Maybe the smears didn't connect because people don't think "socialism" is all that bad.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that 20% disagree and say socialism is better. Twenty-seven percent (27%) are not sure which is better.

Adults under 30 are essentially evenly divided: 37% prefer capitalism, 33% socialism, and 30% are undecided. Thirty-somethings are a bit more supportive of the free-enterprise approach with 49% for capitalism and 26% for socialism. Adults over 40 strongly favor capitalism, and just 13% of those older Americans believe socialism is better.

46 posted on 03/20/2012 11:46:16 AM PDT by kabar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: kabar; Marko413

“As much as I do not want 4 more years of Obama, I believe even more strongly that I do not want to send a message to the GOP that I support their rhinos.”

“This country won’t survive four more years of Obama. Obamacare will be firmly in place—irreversible. And his czars and continued spending will place us on a path to a Greek-like meltdown. In fact, it may already be too late given the huge debt Obama and the Dem Congress racked up in a little over three years—more than the total accrued from Presidents Washington thru Clinton and now more than Bush 43 incurred in eight years.”

The idea that you can ‘send a message’ with your vote by letting Obama win is lunacy. The winners will do what they want, and what Obama wants is to PERMANENTLY SOCIALIZE THE USA. We never undid most of what FDR and LBJ wrought, and Obama’s ‘legacy’ is to be as big of a govt grower as them. A 2nd term will make him succeed in his socialist quest.

RINOs will get ‘this message’ if they lose to a leftist: “We cant rely on conservatives, so lets cater even MORE to the center.”

The real solution is to ‘primary’ RINOs, ie if you dont like Romney, defeat him NOW. So vote out Obama in november, but in the meantime, support the conservative primarying of RINO Lugar in Indiana, etc. one defeated RINO is worth 3 more Senators in the Senate (because 3 more RINOs will start ‘behaving’ better.).


47 posted on 03/20/2012 11:54:56 AM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: napscoordinator; IbJensen
If Rick Santorum is our nominee, Obama will lose big time. If Newt is our nominee, it will be close but he will win. If Romney is our nominee, I don’t think we will win it.

This election is about business.

For many political junkies, it is about patriotism, the flag, America, apple pie, the 4th of July ... good vs evil.

For business, it is about communism vs semi-capitalism {also known as NAZIs national socialism}.

Business can live with and flourish under the national socialist style "nazi" of government, but will wither and die under any communist.

Ergo, obama must go, and business will pump any amount into his demise, and if it's mittens, they don't care.

He can be bought for a few million, even if it's a hundred million or more, they will pay to get obama out.

There is a trillion dollars worth of pent up demand waiting to be unleashed, and billions of dollars of profit to be made, and it won't be denied because of a halfrican, mooselimb, communist, prick.

48 posted on 03/20/2012 11:58:38 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorists savages.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: cuban leaf

So which Republican WOULD you vote for?


49 posted on 03/20/2012 12:03:40 PM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: jveritas
Oh please stop the drama. Yeah we are in more dangerous time now then when we were during the Civil War or the Great Depression, or Word War II, or Vietnam, etc…... Get real folks… It seems that there are always people who each day say that this is the end of America as we know it is unless this and that happen… All BS and sky is falling foolishness.

The short answer is yes we are in more dangerous times now than we were before. I served in Vietnam and never would equate it with WWII or the Civil War in terms of the threat to our national survival. The challenges we face now are economic and demographic. They are not the immediate, visible threats posed by war and destruction. The precarious state we find ourselves in is far more dangerous and permanent and could rend the very fabric of our political comity and consensus.

You and many like you are in a state of denial. They can't believe how close to the edge we really are in terms of an economic meltdown. Like the proverbial frog being slowly boiled alive, we will only realize how dire things are before it is too late to change things. We cling to this childlike, naive belief that somehow everything will turn out all right because it always has. Well, no nation can rely on such folly and delusion. We are in serious trouble. We have over $60 trillion in unfunded liabilities plus a national debt equal to our GDP. As Ryan likes to say, we are witnessing one of the most predictable crises in history.

We have a very long way to go before we reach a point where we need to even worry about not being the most powerful and most advanced nation in history of mankind, I will say two centuries if not more…

LOL. I notice that your response contains emotion and no facts. You fail to address the very real problems that are facing this country and would rather rely on some sort of mystical faith that everything will turn out alright. There is no guarantee that the America of our Founders will last two centuries. Stop spouting empty words and pablum and give me some facts on how we will deal with these problems.

50 posted on 03/20/2012 12:06:42 PM PDT by kabar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-53 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson