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NYT Ethicist A Contest: Tell Us Why Itís Ethical to Eat Meat
New York Times ^ | March 20, 2012 | By ARIEL KAMINER

Posted on 03/20/2012 3:36:14 PM PDT by SMGFan

Ethically speaking, vegetables get all the glory. In recent years, vegetarians — and to an even greater degree vegans, their hard-core inner circle — have dominated the discussion about the ethics of eating. From the philosopher Peter Singer, whose 1975 volume “Animal Liberation” galvanized an international movement, to the novelist Jonathan Safran Foer, who wrote the 2009 best seller “Eating Animals,” those who forswear meat have made the case that what we eat is a crucial ethical decision. To be just, they say, we must put down our cheeseburgers and join their ranks.

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Thank you Rush for heads up.
1 posted on 03/20/2012 3:36:17 PM PDT by SMGFan
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To: SMGFan

If you didn’t eat meat, where would the gravy come from?


2 posted on 03/20/2012 3:37:58 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: SMGFan

All of God’s creatures deserve a place at the table - right next to the mashed potatoes and green beans.


3 posted on 03/20/2012 3:40:32 PM PDT by dainbramaged (No more RINOS, for cryin' out loud!)
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To: SMGFan
Here's a more salient question:

How is it ethical for the NYT to pay one of its former CEOs a $23.7M exit package, when the company netted only $3M over the past 4 years?

4 posted on 03/20/2012 3:41:06 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: SMGFan

As Ted Nugent says, “Kill it and grill it.”


5 posted on 03/20/2012 3:41:15 PM PDT by From The Deer Stand
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To: SMGFan

Ethics has nothing to do with eating food.


6 posted on 03/20/2012 3:42:09 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: SMGFan
because i have canine teeth???
7 posted on 03/20/2012 3:42:54 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: SMGFan

If it’s ethical enough for the bald eagle, mountain lion, wolf, polar bear, muskie, hawk, and hundreds of other great American species, it’s ethical enough for me.


8 posted on 03/20/2012 3:44:53 PM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: SMGFan

Considering how the plants eat all of that nasty carbon and exude oxygen, explain why it’s ethical to be a vegitarian.


9 posted on 03/20/2012 3:44:53 PM PDT by Blogatron (Brought to you by The American Frog Council; 'Frog - The other green meat')
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To: SMGFan
Veggie, Vegetarian
10 posted on 03/20/2012 3:46:37 PM PDT by FrankR
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To: SMGFan

If you don’t eat it, it will go to waste. Really, you should eat meat because there’s not much else you can do with it.


11 posted on 03/20/2012 3:46:54 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (No wonder this administration favors abortion; everything they have done is an abortion)
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To: SMGFan

If they want people to explain why it’s ethical, then it’s clear they think it isn’t.

But to respond: God said it was okay. Period, stop, end of issue.


12 posted on 03/20/2012 3:47:03 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (I can haz Romney's defeat?)
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To: SMGFan
I love the New York Times Ethicist column, because this dude is always wrong.
13 posted on 03/20/2012 3:47:20 PM PDT by Haiku Guy ("The problem with Internet Quotes is that you never know if they are real" -- Abraham Lincoln)
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To: SMGFan

Animals bite, so I bite them back. I call it social justice.


14 posted on 03/20/2012 3:48:06 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: SMGFan

It is ethical because it is none of your damn business.

How’s that!


15 posted on 03/20/2012 3:49:55 PM PDT by Haiku Guy ("The problem with Internet Quotes is that you never know if they are real" -- Abraham Lincoln)
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To: SMGFan

If our ancestors didn’t eat meat, they wouldn’t have been strong enough to survive. I honor them by eating meat at every opportunity.

Besides, if God didn’t intend for us to eat meat, he wouldn’t have made animals so tasty.


16 posted on 03/20/2012 3:51:03 PM PDT by wastedyears (Signature for sale.)
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To: SMGFan
Tell Us Why It’s Ethical to Eat Meat?

Because we can.

Since when is the NYT concerned with ethics?

How can they do so without touching religion?

Call it "cafeteria spirituality".

17 posted on 03/20/2012 3:52:27 PM PDT by cicero2k
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To: tet68

And if you don’t have gravy, how can you really enjoy mountains of mashed potatoes?


18 posted on 03/20/2012 3:53:04 PM PDT by clinkclink
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To: SMGFan
Because if I did not eat meat, then those animals I find tasty would cease to exist as they would serve no purpose.

Face it, who would raise cattle just for fun as pets? Chickens? Turkeys? Hogs?

What is ethical about wanting the extinction of all those species as no one could afford or want to keep them.

19 posted on 03/20/2012 3:54:28 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: SMGFan

What is unethical about it?


20 posted on 03/20/2012 3:54:40 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: SMGFan

So in other words “come on you evil meat eaters, defend yourself. you are on trial. let us see some sensible arguments. but you are already considered guilty. it may be okay but it is still unethical.” /s


21 posted on 03/20/2012 3:54:52 PM PDT by SMGFan
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To: SMGFan

Because God said we can would be the best answer.


22 posted on 03/20/2012 3:55:18 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Or, more accurately---reason serves faith. See W.L. Craig, R. Zacharias, Erwin Lutzer, and others.)
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To: FrankR

23 posted on 03/20/2012 3:55:18 PM PDT by tomkat (FU.baraq)
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To: SMGFan
I wonder if the Old Gray Whore will do an ethics article on abortion?

5.56mm

24 posted on 03/20/2012 3:55:49 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: CatherineofAragon

“...God said it was okay. Period, stop, end of issue.”

Works for me!


25 posted on 03/20/2012 3:56:31 PM PDT by carriage_hill (I'll "vote for an orange juice can", over Barry 0bummer and another 4yrs of his Regime From Hell!)
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To: SMGFan

Old Testament: Genesis Chapter 9. Man is first given permission by God to eat animals after the flood.

New Testament: Jesus Himself eats fish, Jesus feeds 5000 bread and fish. Jesus never condemned Peter for being a fisherman. Jesus never condemned anyone for eating animals, and it was going on all over the places where He was. There were instructions from God on how to kill an animal so that it suffered minimal pain and went unconscious.

Those are my best reasons for it being ethically allowed. Do we revel in it? I don’t. But right now, until the world is restored the way it is supposed to be by Christ, we are able and for nutritional needs, generally need to have meat as part of our diets. I look forward to the day nothing ever has to die again, but I am grateful we have animals that we are able to eat. I am also grateful we can be kind to them while they are alive, and I am grateful for the animals I have as pets that I would never eat.


26 posted on 03/20/2012 3:56:31 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: concerned about politics
Animals bite, so I bite them back. I call it social justice.

I like it.

27 posted on 03/20/2012 3:56:46 PM PDT by wastedyears (Signature for sale.)
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To: reasonisfaith

But to put it in a way the “environmentalists” would understand—because we’re highest on the food chain.


28 posted on 03/20/2012 3:57:20 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Or, more accurately---reason serves faith. See W.L. Craig, R. Zacharias, Erwin Lutzer, and others.)
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To: Chode

“because i have canine teeth???”

Eggs Ackley! Had this argument with a weedeater friend. He says,,,, “We’ll evolve!”


29 posted on 03/20/2012 3:59:10 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: FrankR

There is a term for vegetarians in the animal kingdom
they are called “Prey”.

No vegetarian predators, nope.


30 posted on 03/20/2012 4:00:04 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: cripplecreek

Maybe we should turn the question on them.

“Explain why it is ethical to allow your children to be malnourished because you don’t eat meat.”

or

“Explain why it is ethical to eat living plants and their offspring, fruits? Just because they can’t move, or verbally express pain, why is it okay for humans to consider anything else their own personal food source?” Plants feel pain, and they also respond to positive and negative stimulus noises.


31 posted on 03/20/2012 4:00:04 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: reasonisfaith

But liberals are at a huge disadvantage with questions like this, because the underlying premise is that ethics are absolute. But liberals think there are no absolute rules.

The stupidity of liberalism is on display here.


32 posted on 03/20/2012 4:00:04 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Or, more accurately---reason serves faith. See W.L. Craig, R. Zacharias, Erwin Lutzer, and others.)
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To: SMGFan

What would happen to all the cows?
I’ve never seen one in the wild, where are they native to?


33 posted on 03/20/2012 4:00:23 PM PDT by Gettin Betta
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To: SMGFan

How come plants don’t deserve compassion? Can we prove they don’t feel pain? Animals have the ability to escape or defend themselves. Plants are trapped.


34 posted on 03/20/2012 4:00:38 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: SMGFan

It’s ethical because the ruler of all creation commanded it:

“Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.”

Genesis 9:3

Doesn’t get much more ethical than that.


35 posted on 03/20/2012 4:01:53 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: N. Theknow
Face it, who would raise cattle just for fun as pets?

Me. I always wanted a cow pet. They are so big and sad looking, yet it only seems to require that tiny wire fence to keep them in the pasture.

I'm still going to eat them though, including my own cow pet - if I had one and was hungry enough.

36 posted on 03/20/2012 4:02:08 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: carriage_hill

LOL, that’s right!


37 posted on 03/20/2012 4:02:15 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (I can haz Romney's defeat?)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Actually that means nothing. Plenty of animals have canine teeth and are not meat eaters. I’m on your side, but teeth appearances mean nothing.


38 posted on 03/20/2012 4:02:40 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: SMGFan

Being a vegetarian should mean being open minded and saying yes to things. Especially meat.


39 posted on 03/20/2012 4:03:04 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: SMGFan

A better question to ask the zealots is, “Is it ethical to eat?” If they really *cared* about the planet, they would stop eating and lower their carbon footprint to zero.


40 posted on 03/20/2012 4:03:22 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("It is already like a government job," he said, "but with goats." -- Iranian goat smuggler)
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To: Secret Agent Man

God’s even a fan of veal by way of Christ’s parable of the Prodigal Son and the father ordering the fatted calf to be slaughtered in celebration of his son’s return.


41 posted on 03/20/2012 4:03:32 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
tell him to file his down then, the better to chew his cud with...
42 posted on 03/20/2012 4:04:15 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: cripplecreek

“Ethics has nothing to do with eating food.”

CORRECT


43 posted on 03/20/2012 4:05:01 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
If they really *cared* ..


44 posted on 03/20/2012 4:05:10 PM PDT by tomkat (FU.baraq)
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To: SMGFan

Millions of years of evolution have turned us into omnivores. Vegetarians (philosophical ones, not ones doing it for health reasons of course) should look it up.


45 posted on 03/20/2012 4:05:19 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: moron; y'all
Tell Us Why It’s Ethical to Eat Meat

Well moron, because God told us it was.

That's why he made us omnivores and placed us at the top of the food chain. Take a look at your teeth, unless you have molars all the way around, you have a couple of fangs called canines. Those are meant to be used for ripping and tearing...raw meat.

That's why God gave them to you.

46 posted on 03/20/2012 4:07:06 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: SMGFan

Why is it ethical to eat plants? Who are we to get to decide which species are higher than other? Plants breath, grow, and reproduce too, even though in different way from animals.


47 posted on 03/20/2012 4:09:08 PM PDT by paudio (no tagline for now...)
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If God didn’t intend for us to eat animals he wouldn’t have made them out of meat.

PETA says meat is murder. If so I make Stalin look like a beginner...


48 posted on 03/20/2012 4:09:23 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: SMGFan

Cows turn grass into protein. Deer convert trees and shrubs into protein. Chickens convert insects and grain into tasty meat. It would be unethical not to use these sources of protein.


49 posted on 03/20/2012 4:18:29 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Blogatron; SMGFan
Considering how the plants eat all of that nasty carbon and exude oxygen, explain why it’s ethical to be a vegetarian.

Actually, plants emit carbon over night, so it's worse than you thought. The poor things work so hard to produce oxygen for 8-12 hours a day, and these heartless vegans kill them with wonderlust!

50 posted on 03/20/2012 4:19:04 PM PDT by fanfan (This is not my Father's Ontario. http://www.ontariolandowners.ca/)
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