Skip to comments.CNN And Fox Project Romney Wins Illinois
Posted on 03/20/2012 5:51:54 PM PDT by Pinkbell
No link yet. I'm just seeing it on CNN. Reuters said Fox called it as well.
Turnout for Tuesdays Illinois primary in Chicago was a meager 24 percent, officials said.
It was the lowest turnout for a presidential primary in the past 70 years.
I SHOULD have said Romney is a LIBERAL Republican, and so is “reach-across-the-aisle, but they don’t reach back” John McCain.
Bush 43, was slightly right of moderate, and did a lot for the pro-life movement.
You're right Hinckley.
To all, please forgive my antagonistic comments. I know the pain of seeing a candidate lose that you really relate to...from 1964 onward. It really, really sucks.
It hurts and it's bewildering.
But I have to disagree, most are not poor losers. Most Freepers are genuine winners.
There's only two folks I have ever held a grudge against on FR...even in the heated a vicious battles over NEARLY 14years here.
Santorum supporters: You have my condolences.
I'll be back tomorrow to fight. Tonight you'll get my respect and comfort.
For, I can remember falling to the floor in 1976, weeping.
No, it’s not over yet.
I just don’t like to lose, especially to a piece of garbage like Mitt Trotsky.
He stands for nothing.
Thanks for the kind thoughts, but my dislike and disgust for bottom feeder Mitt Romney to keep me warm:)
Yes, it does.
There are two ways to win idiots votes.
Idiots can’t think, won’t think and .... ohhhh shiney!
The biggest problem with Newt - who I support wholeheartedly - is he doesn’t speak in soundbites. He EXPLAINS. Most people do not want to learn or listen. His video on energy is totally amazing - but it is 30 minutes, not 30 seconds.
The country that put a man on the moon. That basically invented and forced through the technological revolution. And it seems that most of the voters can’t focus for more than ten seconds.
Newt never stood a chance in Illinois, I don’t think any Newt supporter thought that. I really wish Sen. Santorum had done much better. This was not the news I was hoping to wake up to today (yeah, I work odd hours).
Fine, we'll put you down as "undecided."
“Your biggest enemies are totalitarian rat bastard psychopaths like Cass Sunstein, John Holdren, and Obama and Co, who will literally kill you if they get a chance. I don’t mean politically. I mean they intend to kill you, and your family. They have said as much off the record.
Whining about Romney’s faux conservatism is a high class problem compared to physical survival.”
You are correct.
I will only vote for Romney IF he is the nominee.
The prime directive is to defeat Barack Obama and ALL Democrats in November.
And I do mean ALL Democrats. The Democrats are truly anti-American and are the enemies fo freedom; completely co-opted by Marxists and hard core leftists, as it is actively engaged on multiple fronts to destroy this nation.
Now, I am listening to my man Newt Gingrich on Fox explaining why we have to defeat Obama. I listen to this man and know he has such wisdom and knowledge, and can not understand how, once again, I find myself in the minority of Americans, and the minority of Republicans who understand how to recognize true leadership.
But if Romney is the nominee I WILL vote for him, because to allow Barack Obama and his detestable, corrupt Administration to remain in power over me and my family one more day after January 20, 2013 at noon is UNTHINKABLE>
You and I and other longtime Freepers know what is at stake in this election. It is like 1860 and 1980--the effects will have ramifications for decades to come, and will determine even if there is an America in the future.
But I will tell you this--it will be the last time I vote Republican in a Presidential race. Because, win or lose, we need to ffinally throw off the elephant and create a Conservative political party after this election. The RINOs will have their last stand. If they saddle us with Willard and they win, at least we will be done with Obama. If they saddle us with Willard and we lose, the GOP has breathed their last and will go the way of the Whigs.
And our country will be in a fight for its very existence, and I do not say that lightly. I am a student of history and I see what is coming, and it is not pretty.
We will do our duty to America and to the GOP once last time in either case. But to not vote--that is not thinkable or rational, given the hour of peril we face.
Actually, it started with Perry. Myself and his other supporters along with the Governor were called the worst, most obnoxious names by a gang of trolls who were given no limits on this forum. A number of them were Cain supporters who switched to Gingrich or just disappeared once Perry dropped out.
And Perry was a full-fledged conservative, head and shoulders above the current ones.
Don’t make Cato come over there! :P
Cato will now cease talking in the third person.
To those Newt supporters they see a a compromiser rather than a fighter of principles when they see Santorum you know "well, we didn't get what we really wanted but at least we got SOMETHING done".
So, if anybody is in hiding as a Romney supporter but masking as a supporter of somebody else that Romney supporter would most likely be claiming to support Santorum and NOT Newt Gingrich.
Santorum never had a chance. He should have stepped down long ago and let Newt tackle Mitt Romney. But he didn't. We can look for Santorum to be endorsing Mitt Romney AGAIN sometime soon, I suppose. many believe that was his plan all along.
Your theory just does not hold water.
Yes, you’re right about Illinois— I lived there for half of my life, and thinking conservatives are few and far between. The university crowd might respect Newt’s methods and ideas, but of course they are terrified to vote against Obama.
There is a strategy being developed right now should the GOP lose the House and Senate, and the Presidency this year. It is called the Filibusterer. We will tie up all legislation with it. Then we will have a second Tea Party revolution in 2014 and nominate our President in 2016.
If Romney wins the nomination every prominent Republican will announce their support of him...INCLUDING Palin...on the floor of the convention in Tampa.
Don’t look at me! I voted for Santorum in 2012; Fred Thompson in 2008; and Alan Keyes against Barack Obama.
Sigh. Not enough people agree with me.
For the most part, I held my tongue against Bachmann, Perry, even Gingrich, and was a Cain supporter and went to Santorum. Might be a few times I unloaded on Newt Gingrich but never any carpet bombing, or incessant, PSYCHOTIC showing up on Newt thread after Newt thread being an agent provocateur to distrupt over there. I respect them and leave them alone. Newt is not the worst guy in the world and stands as my second choice in this race to stop Romney. My number one problem in this 2012 GOP season, open source, no hidden agenda or allegiences here or playing games or astro-turfing, has ALWAYS BEEN Mitt Romney, along with Obama of course. I have made every effort to target fire where it should be targeted, as a conservative. Hope I have been true to those precepts and values.
RND and FR Project Loss fo Conservatives
Judging by his time in MA he's apparently is not entirely uncomfortable with it, either.
All that aside, I think Obama has been planning on facing Willard all along - IMO he's the only GOP candidate Obama is certain he can beat. So we wind up with the megalomaniac anyway.
“The prime directive is to defeat Barack Obama and ALL Democrats in November.”
Winnah winnah chicken dinnah! Romney was not in my top five choices, but like it or not, he is the man now.
This race is no longer about any of us here. It is about getting 10% of the squishy, unknowing 30% in the middle to change their vote this time. Like it or not, Mitt’s blandness will be an asset as he avoids the media’s scary republican label.
He may not execute “Operation Rollback Spending” like Paul Ryan or Sarah Palin would, but at least he will end Obama’s assault on our nation.
And I was with you. Perry was my favorite and it was hard to watch the degrading demeaning treatment he got on this board. As you said, "by a gang of trolls who were given no limits on this forum".
I don't know where we go from here but I pray for our future that we're able to support and build up our candidates. Too much at stake to not give it our all.
That may be true. But you're talking about a general election between the Republican and Barack Obama. Santorum's endorsement of Mitt Romney came during the primary. If he did not think that Romney was a "conservative" by his own standards there was no need to endorse him or McCain when he did.
Nobody in their right mind actually believes Santorum's sudden acknowledgment that Mitt Romney is a moderate Republican after he once claimed Romney was a "real conservative". It just looks fake when he talks about Romney like that now. It's true Romney is a liberal republican. It's not true that Santorum really believes it. Santorum wants to be President.
Some attacked him with such fervor that its as if he did something personal to them.
He did. He’s been living a fairly moral life. Some people find that to be offensive.
You need to put things in context.
In a race between Mitt Romney and John McCain for the 2008 GOP Nomination, who would you call the “true conservative” of that race after it became clear it was a two man race?
Because Santorum is an idiot and Gingrich is not.
Only an idiot or a crook would support carbon credits.
It is a crying shame.
I have said before and will again, Senator Santorum is a good man. Speaker Gingrich is not (to be blunt) but he has the answers. No waffling, or turning things back on his opponents - the guy actually has a plan that will work.
I have almost given up on the Speaker getting the nomination. Not quite, I still hope he does and will work for him all in until he drops out, but the chances are slim now.
What I want now is a candidate - or team - that will actually use his policy suggestions.
Sorry for being down, but this news is not exactly good from where I am sitting. We know plastic, center left, flipflopping politicians here. Had them for decades.
To be fair, assuming Romney wins the nomination, Newt will endorse Mitt too. With the exception of Paul and very few others, they will all back him. Newt, Santorum, Perry, Palin, etc, etc, will all endorse, support and actively campaign for Romney. Don't fool yourself into thinking otherwise.
To those Newt supporters they see a a compromiser rather than a fighter of principles when they see Santorum you know "well, we didn't get what we really wanted but at least we got SOMETHING done"
I just see Santorum as a terrible nominee because I think he'd lose a general election in a landslide so large it would take our House majority down with it. Romney sucks, but Rick would lose even worse. Is Rick a better conservative than Mitt? I certainly think so. Unfortunately, he would not be a better general election candidate. Santorum simply can't avoid being baited over and over and over on the social issues. By the time the media is done with him (and because Santorum is terribly undisciplined), you'd think the election was about whether to ban rubbers and Victoria's Secret catalogue's.
If I were a politician who stands on principles I would not have endorsed either. It was a primary and no endorsement required. And if I did make the stupid decision to endorse Mitt Romney I would have not gone as far as claim he is a "real conservative".
I would not have endorsed any of them.
The GOP under the current nominating rules will never be able to elect a conservative...again.
A conservative can still win if there is only one in the race from the beginning. Most moronic voters think this is a horse race and it’s your job to vote for the one who will win even if you don’t like him.
Is anybody really surprised that the same morons who elected that scumbag faggot Mark Kirk to the Senate would vote for a lying, unprincipled liberal like Mittens?
Currently the YOUTH VOTE is up for grabs. Bammy had it. He blew it. They haven’t had employment for the last four years.
They are NOT looking for Leftwingtard solutions, and that’s all Romney has to offer.
You’re right about the youth. On top of employment, they’re thinking that the individual mandate is a way to force the youth to pay the old folks medical bills.
RR...If there's a subliminal there, it ain't Ronald Reagan!
Man hasn't a silver ghost of a chance of winning anyhow.
That's the second reason why I never jumped on the Santorum wagon.
The first was that he thinks Romney is a real conservative.
Yes, perhaps Newt, Palin and all the others will end up endorsing Romney in the end but the end is when it's ONE Republican vs Barack Obama and not one republican against another republican.
If Santorum stepped down tonight I still suspect that he would endorse Mitt Romney over Newt Gingrich again calling Mitt the "real conservative". He did it before and he'd do it again. When asked about it Santorum would brush it off as "oh... that's just politics".
That's why many do not trust Santorum's judgment.
ok, put yourself in Santorum’s shoes for a minute:
You are serving in the US Senate, with John McCain. You’ve gotten to witness first hand McCain’s actions, leadership, etc (McCain/Feingold, Gang of 14, McCain/Kennedy, Opposing the Bush Tax Cuts). You’ve really, really, grown to dislike McCain over your tenure in the Senate and agree with Thad Cochrane when he says “the thought of him being President sends shivers up my spine”.
Now witnessing that first hand, are you going to sit by and let McCain grab the nomination or are you going to do something about it.
That’s what and why Santorum did and said what he did in 2008.
And Newt proves once again how he will win.He didnt even beat Ron Paul.The Newtereds are delusional.
I would not have endorsed neither McCain nor Romney.
Endorsements have consequences... as we can see today.
Please tell me I'm misunderstanding, and you don't seriously think that "toxic" comments on FR or any other internet forum had anything to do with Romney winning Illinois.
Yep. Love the cartoon.
I think the unrelenting barrage of garbage heaped upon Perry, Bachman, and Santorum certainly took its toll. And it wasn't just here, this lack of civility is an epidemic. Guess it's like a driver flipping off the other guy or tailgating, some sort of anonymity on the web, brings out the worst in some people.
Since third parties don't win, we need to make the GOP the third party.
That's a tad harsh but I basically agree with every word of it, especially those last 4.
Turnout for Tuesdays Illinois primary in Chicago was a meager 24 percent, ........officials said..... It was the lowest turnout for a presidential primary in the past 70 years.
Looks like nobody else wanted to vote for any of them either with only 24% coming out.
The only two GOP candidates at this stage remaining [as of tonight, 20 March 2012 ] who have won enough won primary/caucus states to meet the threshold of having their names actually put into nomination in Tampa so they can be voted for by the delegates assembled are ROMNEY and SANTORUM?
Which states are it that Gingrich will be picking up in the next few weeks to get to that threshold? What about Louisiana where Santorum has a 9 to 10% lead over his challengers (next state up on the docket), and even there, Romney is appearing ahead of Gingrich?
Tell me who the "spoiler" is on this, at the midway point to the nomination.
Conclusion. It is time for Gingrich to leave the race, but if it takes a beating in Louisana then, so be it. Spite against Romney (as disgusting and deserving as Romney is of this), cannot propel the Speaker ad infinitum, as his fundraising imploded from February and March will probably show the same.
No we need a combined conservative effort here and no further splitting of this vote.
The birth of our nation was not pretty. Birth never is. We're going to need a whole other birthing to replicate what has been lost.
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