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Dutch Roman Catholic church 'castrated' boys in 1950s
BBC News ^ | 21st March 2012 | BBC News

Posted on 03/20/2012 8:18:05 PM PDT by the scotsman

'Up to 11 boys were castrated while in the care of the Dutch Roman Catholic church in the 1950s to rid them of homosexuality, a newspaper investigation has said.

A young man was castrated in 1956 after telling police he was being abused by priests, the newspaper reported.

The justice minister is investigating the role of the government at the time.

Last year, an inquiry found thousands of children had been sexually abused in Dutch Catholic institutions since 1945.

Dutch MPs called for an inquiry after the report was published in the NRC Handelsblad newspaper at the weekend.'

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: catholic; catholicchurch; dutch; homosexual; homosexualagenda; homosexualpriests; moralabsolutes; netherlands; pedophiles; vatican
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To: the scotsman

All you have to do is declare someone mentally unfit,then you can do whatever you want to them.Thank you government for teaching me this valuable lesson.

Otherwise it is not exactly amazing how the system falls on young people who make trouble for people on power but it is a shame that youth have enormous shortcomings in understanding how much the real world can be set against them.

And once that understanding becomes clear then the real work begins although in the case of that dude,I believed there wasn’t much he could have done after this.


21 posted on 03/21/2012 12:04:13 AM PDT by Del Rapier
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To: stormer
especially when it was pedophile homosexual priests that violated them in the first place.M

Get the facts straight.

22 posted on 03/21/2012 12:09:55 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: stormer
especially when it was pedophile homosexual priests that violated them in the first place.M

Get the facts straight.

23 posted on 03/21/2012 12:10:10 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

“especially when it was pedophile homosexual priests that violated them in the first place.”

Again,,,im not Catholic. But my official ruling, is that if one is a pedo or homo “priest”,, then in truth, he simply is not a priest _at all_.


24 posted on 03/21/2012 12:16:40 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: stormer

Same old two-wrongs-make-a-right game being played here.


25 posted on 03/21/2012 12:35:57 AM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: stormer

The CC CASTRATED the boys????

Where on earth did they even get the chemicals and know-how to do so???

Oh - wait - it was the GOVERNMENT that did so.

But, hey, let’s not lose an opportunity. Say the CHURCH did it. Yeah, that’s the ticket!

Can’t be more bigoted and disgusting. Yes, the CC hid the disgusting acts of the gay pedophiles who infested the Priesthood, and they are equally culpable because of that. Of course, the U.S. public schools did the same - except in larger numbers and more often no matter how you look at it. So did many other churches targeted by the gay pedophiles.

But, pile on the CC cause ... well, cause they are not agreeing to gay marriage, the damned bigots!


26 posted on 03/21/2012 1:10:40 AM PDT by Ancient Wonderboy
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To: stormer

the GAY pedophile priests.


27 posted on 03/21/2012 1:10:48 AM PDT by Ancient Wonderboy
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To: James C. Bennett

Does everyone forget the commie infiltration of the church so as to undermine religion? This would certainly do it in spades.


28 posted on 03/21/2012 1:12:08 AM PDT by quickquiver (No, means N O.)
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To: GeronL

The US government also allowed lobomys on patients with parents concent...IE Old joe kennedy’s daughter and without his wifes OK. Also put some military at high risk during the testing of the Nuclear/or atomic bombs...stationing them closer to the bombs center....this government has done many sick things long before any of us came along....


29 posted on 03/21/2012 1:21:59 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: the scotsman

Dutch Roman Catholic Church (Old Catholic Church) is NOT in communion with Rome. The Catholic Church in Holland IS in communion with Rome. Two different entities. Which entity is the article about?

Words have meaning.


30 posted on 03/21/2012 2:06:08 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: the scotsman

All priests who take a vow of celibacy should back it up with a physical separation from any possible future sex. Not gonna use ‘em, not gonna need ‘em.


31 posted on 03/21/2012 3:24:38 AM PDT by CalvaryJohn (What is keeping that damned asteroid?)
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To: DesertRhino

luv your tag

seems like this would’ve been a practice back then,
sick by today’s standard, but not anything exclusive to the catholic church


32 posted on 03/21/2012 4:47:29 AM PDT by paythefiddler (redefeat communism)
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To: DesertRhino; LadyDoc; the scotsman; Irenic; Emerson C; stormer
I read this yesterday at Lucianne.com, and two thing I noticed was that the people who (50-60 years ago) allegedly did the castrating or made the decision, are all dead; and all of them were MD's and psychiatrists.

So why doesn't the screaming headline scream something like, "Two generations ago, Dutch psychiatrists castrated boys"?

Why? Because "the Church" did no such thing; and it's no fun putting the blame on psychiatrists.

The fact is that some psychiatrists of the late 19th and through most of the 20th centuries, acting on quite public and elaborate eugenicist and behaviorist beliefs, committed incredible aggressions upon people with persistent sexual and other disorders; homosexuals were among their victims, though not the only ones.

It was the Catholic Church's doctrines which were the main bulward of resistance against eugenicist and behaviorist abuse of persons.

If this indeed happened (and we know it happened because of a single unnamed source 60 years later?) it would be because that institution, even if called "Catholic," was staffed by people promoting and acting upon the secular psychiatric ideologies of the day, and not the doctrines of the Catholic Church.

(BTW, they'll still castrate boys, mind you: but now it's done to cure [adjust, restructure] transsexuals, and not homosexuals. And it's presented as humane, enlightened, and progressive: a right, not a mutilation.)

These Dutch psychiatrists: it's a little late to say "hang 'em" 60 years later, but God knows they may all presently be in hell.

33 posted on 03/21/2012 6:23:32 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Stet.)
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To: Boogieman

Huh? I don’t think you’ve paid close attention to this story.

The story which has been bouncing around the media like crazy is an attack on Deetman (not part of his report).

I find it interesting that his report last December recieved very little attention in the American media, relative to this one case.

I think I know why - the timing works well with the current political battles concernong the catholic church.

You don’t have to agree with me...but please don’t mis-report that this case is a result of Deetman...that is just patently untrue.


34 posted on 03/21/2012 11:13:52 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

Heterosexual pedophiles lust for children of the opposite sex. Homosexual pedophiles lust for children of the same sex.


35 posted on 03/21/2012 11:58:48 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: LadyDoc; GeronL

What is not being checked is how many SECULAR psychiatric centers castrated aggressive homosexuals back then. This was the good old days, when the Kennedys had Rosemary given a lobotomy because she was having temper tantrums and chasing boys. Some doctors did recommend castration to “cure” homosexuality back then too. Don’t blame the church for the psychiatric fads.

I personally doubt these were passive boys who were castrated for the fun of it (excuse my pun). And the “church” didn’t do it: Doctors did it to boys who were hospitalized/institutionalized in Church run institutions.

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I had a feeling it was something along these lines.


36 posted on 03/21/2012 3:51:20 PM PDT by Morgana (I only come here to see what happens next. It normally does.)
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