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1 posted on 03/20/2012 8:18:08 PM PDT by the scotsman
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Good grief. Lock them all up.


2 posted on 03/20/2012 8:24:08 PM PDT by stormer
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Deplorable.


3 posted on 03/20/2012 8:25:08 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (A free counttry and a lying media are incompatible.)
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Not to take blame from the Catholics (there’s no reason why two or more can’t be wrong), but one has to wonder how enthusiastically the press is trying to uncover government abuses. I’m pretty darn sure statist abuses are trivial in when compared.


4 posted on 03/20/2012 8:33:08 PM PDT by Red Dog #1
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The Catholic Church has had millions of members over its 2,000 year history. There will always be bad people and mistakes, when you have that many people. However, these mistakes do not overshadow the other works of the church. This story has clearly been dug up due to recent events....meh.


6 posted on 03/20/2012 8:56:30 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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At that time homosexuality was considered a mental illness. How was this treated by other institutions of the time?


8 posted on 03/20/2012 9:18:20 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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The US government was castrating the “mentally retarded” back then, part of a eugenics program or something


12 posted on 03/20/2012 9:45:19 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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I would be inclined towards scepticism on this one until there is firmer evidence than just the word of one person based on hearsay. There is another reason for scepticism. In the early and mid 20th Century many countries adopted Eugenics and among other thing forcably castrated/sterilized those they considers “unfit” to be parents. And it was not just the obviously unfit but those considered “feebleminded” a condition can could only be discerned by panels of experts. Such laws existed in 20 US States, in all Scandanavian countries, Switserland and of course NAZI germany. It Sweden it lasted up to the mid-70s and it is estimated that some 70,000 young people in their reformatories were forcibly sterilized. The point I wish to make is this. The most important world-wide opponent of the Eugenics movement was the Catholic Church, and no Catholic countries has any Eugenic type laws.

While abuses have racked Catholic insitutions, I find it highly improbable that this type of abuse took place and if it did it certainly was rare and nowhere like on the scale of countries such as Swedenn. But I stand to be corrected by the available evidence.


16 posted on 03/20/2012 10:05:01 PM PDT by Emerson C
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I shouldn’t think this would bother the Dutch too much. They are down with euthanasia/assisted suicide, “presumed consent” organ harvesting and all that good stuff. The Dutch are forward thinkers, ya know.


17 posted on 03/20/2012 10:06:50 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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What is not being checked is how many SECULAR psychiatric centers castrated aggressive homosexuals back then. This was the good old days, when the Kennedys had Rosemary given a lobotomy because she was having temper tantrums and chasing boys. Some doctors did recommend castration to “cure” homosexuality back then too. Don’t blame the church for the psychiatric fads.

I personally doubt these were passive boys who were castrated for the fun of it (excuse my pun). And the “church” didn’t do it: Doctors did it to boys who were hospitalized/institutionalized in Church run institutions.


19 posted on 03/20/2012 11:35:07 PM PDT by LadyDoc
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Im not Catholic or Catholic apologist. But it’s interesting,,, every perversion know to man is celebrated and promoted. We must never speak ill of people who want sex changes, must pay for it,,
Must embrace infanticide and euthanasia. We must embrace the worst sodomy imaginable,, and teach it in the schools.

But let one human member of one of the largest organized groups on earth do something wrong,,,and somehow, we are supposed to blame the whole group. Why is this a story about “Catholic” wrongdoing,, and not just the name of the monster who did this wrongdoing?


20 posted on 03/21/2012 12:00:53 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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All you have to do is declare someone mentally unfit,then you can do whatever you want to them.Thank you government for teaching me this valuable lesson.

Otherwise it is not exactly amazing how the system falls on young people who make trouble for people on power but it is a shame that youth have enormous shortcomings in understanding how much the real world can be set against them.

And once that understanding becomes clear then the real work begins although in the case of that dude,I believed there wasn’t much he could have done after this.


21 posted on 03/21/2012 12:04:13 AM PDT by Del Rapier
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Dutch Roman Catholic Church (Old Catholic Church) is NOT in communion with Rome. The Catholic Church in Holland IS in communion with Rome. Two different entities. Which entity is the article about?

Words have meaning.


30 posted on 03/21/2012 2:06:08 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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All priests who take a vow of celibacy should back it up with a physical separation from any possible future sex. Not gonna use ‘em, not gonna need ‘em.


31 posted on 03/21/2012 3:24:38 AM PDT by CalvaryJohn (What is keeping that damned asteroid?)
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