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The Goldilocks approach to ammunition bans
St. Louis Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 20 March, 2012 | Kurt Hofmann

Posted on 03/21/2012 5:47:37 AM PDT by marktwain

"This ammunition is too 'toxic.'"

"This ammunition is too capable of defeating police body armor."

As for finding ammunition that will be judged to be "just right," don't hold your breath. There is a renewed push underway to compel the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to ban lead bullets and shotgun pellets. From the New York Times:

Citing risks to birds and to human health, roughly 100 environmental groups formally asked the federal Environmental Protection Agency this week to ban or at least impose limits on lead in the manufacturing of bullets and shotgun pellets for hunting or recreation.

The bans, of course, would not be universal:

The ban sought by environmental groups would not apply to ammunition used by law enforcement and the military.

The lead in government bullets, apparently, is far too well behaved to poison anyone, as private citizens' lead would. That's a good thing, I suppose, given the fact that the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has just ordered up to 450 million (lead-based) .40 caliber pistol rounds.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ammunition; ban; banglist; bloat; crushliberalism; democrats; envirofascism; guncontrol; lead; liberalfascism
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The same approach is used with all guns. Handguns are too small or two big, "Saturday night specials are "underpowered", while others are "too powerful" or hold too many bullets.
1 posted on 03/21/2012 5:47:43 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain; harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
One will note that the same pseudo-science and weasel-words employed in the whole "Climate Change" hoax. The mechanisms that collectivists employ to promulgate their lies all follow a pattern that is readily recognized once you learn it.

Add to that the fact that the cretins pushing this on us lowlies find themselves, as always, exempt from their own rules.

Tells you everything you need to know.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

2 posted on 03/21/2012 5:54:35 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: marktwain

I’m quite sure I have enough ammo, but it may be time to buy more so I can supply others later.


3 posted on 03/21/2012 6:05:29 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (We can't have economic progress...there is a slug somewhere that needs to be saved. Mich Patriot)
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To: Joe Brower; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker
Tells you everything you need to know.

actually, its simpler to remember that the enemy NEVER sleeps, and will NEVER abide by 'live and let live'...

while we attempt to make ends meet, they continually, like little perpetual motion machines, grind away on every issue, from every angle, every day, financed by power peoples money, whose goal is only to take our money, power and FReedom...

sooner or later theyll shop an idea to the right judge or politi-animal and then we have to fight uphill...again...

4 posted on 03/21/2012 6:11:10 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Joe Brower

Everybody needs a CZ-52 and plenty of ammo. Dirt cheap for a fine blaster and enough ammo for anything coming our way. The .30 caliber 90gr hardball at 1,600fps is particulary effective against thick-skinned beasts. The hollowpoints expand to 60 caliber. Get the pistol and ammo now while they are almost being given away.

5 posted on 03/21/2012 6:14:47 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: marktwain

Sheesh, us (multiple expelatives deleted) shooters are puting LEAD into the ground. How horrible.

(Would someone please tell these people where lead comes from?)


6 posted on 03/21/2012 6:17:47 AM PDT by CPOSharky (The only thing straight, white, Christian males get is the blame for everything.)
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To: Travis McGee
Ah, sing it, Travis ---

I'm eternally thankful for your input on these threads with respect to the CZ-52. It was after one of your posts four years ago that I went out and purchased mine, along with enough ammuntion to supply a battalion. I dearly love my Czech hand-cannon ... and the low ammunition costs pay for the pistol many times over.

7 posted on 03/21/2012 6:24:14 AM PDT by BlueLancer (KOMEN PINK: The color of the water in the basin after Pilate finished washing his hands)
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To: Mich Patriot
I continue to buy a box or a brick every trip to the store. Won't go to waste!

Mike

8 posted on 03/21/2012 6:26:50 AM PDT by MichaelP (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools ~HS)
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To: Gilbo_3
"...actually, its simpler to remember that the enemy NEVER sleeps, and will NEVER abide by 'live and let live'...

...while we attempt to make ends meet, they continually, like little perpetual motion machines, grind away on every issue, from every angle, every day, financed by power peoples money, whose goal is only to take our money, power and FReedom....."

Exactly so! This has been part of their overall strategy since the late 1800's and was first implemented in the U.S. during and by the Teddy Progressive administration.

Brilliant strategy...Carefully implemented...Eminently successful...Irrevocable without our implementation of a few important sentences in the Declaration of Independence!

9 posted on 03/21/2012 6:29:20 AM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: marktwain

If they are worried about Birds 100,000 plus Birds Killed by subsidized Wind farms EPA should step in today! Shut em down


10 posted on 03/21/2012 6:32:06 AM PDT by philly-d-kidder (AB-Sheen"The truth is the truth if nobody believes it,a lie is still a lie, everybody believes it")
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To: Travis McGee
Witness 10mm. S&W .357 for a back up.

"Two is one, and one is none."

:-)

11 posted on 03/21/2012 6:44:23 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: BlueLancer

Another advantage of the CZ-52 is it’s roller pin delay system. It was designed so that the pistol could fire very hot SMG ammo that was too hot for a Tokarev. But this also makes the slide very easy to pull back, much easier than other comparable pistols with conventional delay systems. As a result, if carried with an empty chamber, you can pull the slide back like it was a .22 pistol. Folks who have trouble jacking the slide on a typical 9mm, .40 or .45 will have no problem chambering a round with the CZ-52. This becomes an issue for older folks, sometimes.


12 posted on 03/21/2012 6:47:25 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: CPOSharky

We could really improve humanity if we just banned CO2 and Lead.


13 posted on 03/21/2012 6:48:37 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: musicman

ping


14 posted on 03/21/2012 6:51:03 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Travis McGee

BTTT!

http://www.czechpoint-usa.com/products/vz-52/


15 posted on 03/21/2012 6:51:44 AM PDT by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: Dead Corpse

Also fine calibers, but pricey ammo if you don’t reload. For folks on a tight budget who feel they might prefer a LOT of ammo, delivered now, dirt cheap, it’s hard to top 7.62X25. You can buy a CZ-52 pistol and a thousand rounds of ammo for much less than the price of a new “name brand” pistol and no ammo.


16 posted on 03/21/2012 6:53:29 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: EdReform

Such a deal!


17 posted on 03/21/2012 6:55:45 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: marktwain

citing risks to birds??

Ban wind turbines?


18 posted on 03/21/2012 6:56:41 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: CPOSharky

lol


19 posted on 03/21/2012 6:58:01 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Travis McGee

Yeah, pretty sweet! Do you know of any other good sources selling CZ-52’s?


20 posted on 03/21/2012 7:04:29 AM PDT by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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