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Parents accused of flying to Vegas, leaving kids alone
Chicago Tribune ^ | March 21, 2012 | Rosemary Sobol

Posted on 03/21/2012 7:39:08 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement

Child endangerment charges have been filed against an Uptown couple accused of flying to Las Vegas and leave their two children, 12 and 9, home alone for nearly two days, police said.

The couple took the trip last month, but the charges were not filed until this week, according to police. Shanpreta Howard, 34, and Antowain Johnson, 36, of the 4800 block of North Winthrop Avenue, are both charged with two misdemeanor counts of endangering the health and life of a child.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: chicago; children; families
No word on if they get to keep the frequent flyer miles?
1 posted on 03/21/2012 7:39:20 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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To: ConservativeStatement

Did anything bad happen to the children?


2 posted on 03/21/2012 7:41:36 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Number-one Son earns Eagle Scout. Family collapses in relief. Where's the wine?)
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To: ConservativeStatement

A 9 and 12 year old are fine alone during the day but two days is a bit much in today’s world.


3 posted on 03/21/2012 7:42:14 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: ConservativeStatement

12 years old is old enough to baby sit. I don’t see what the issue is here.

It wasn’t that long ago that people married at 12 and 13


4 posted on 03/21/2012 7:45:55 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Go Newt!)
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To: ConservativeStatement

My parents left me home for 8 hours as a 12 year old and boy what a mess I made of the house.....never let me stay home alone again. lol. I just wanted to cook and made a big mess of the kitchen.


5 posted on 03/21/2012 7:46:24 AM PDT by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Shanpreta and Antowain... clearly traumatized by the names given to them by their own parents.


6 posted on 03/21/2012 7:48:42 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I disagree. For a few hours or an afternoon, sure, depending on the children, but overnight? No way.


7 posted on 03/21/2012 7:50:31 AM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: ConservativeStatement
I guess what happens in Uptown doesn't stay in Uptown.

-PJ

8 posted on 03/21/2012 7:50:52 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

>> Shanpreta Howard, 34, and Antowain Johnson, 36,

Funny... I didn’t think the Amish were *into* gambling!


9 posted on 03/21/2012 7:51:39 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I was babysitting for money at 12.


10 posted on 03/21/2012 7:55:22 AM PDT by Hildy ("When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - SocratesHill not text while dri)
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To: Tax-chick

Pretty sure 12 year old is legal to babysit in most states... 2 days might be a bit of a stretch in terms of time unless you have a relative of neighbor close by/checking in on them, but I don’t know if I’d make a federal case out of it.

I don’t know if I’d personally do it, but a 12 yo and a 9 yo should be able to survive okay for a couple of days.


11 posted on 03/21/2012 7:56:16 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: cripplecreek

I agree, my son could handle such things at that age without any issues.


12 posted on 03/21/2012 8:00:03 AM PDT by Peter from Rutland
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To: ConservativeStatement

It’s right on the line for me. If it was just a 12 year old, still not thrilled, but I could see it depending on the maturity of the 12 year old.

If it were a 14 year old and a 9 year old, two days is about the limit with frequent phone calls.

But I sure wouldn’t suggest a 12 and a 9 year old alone for 2 days.

Does it rise to the level of “child endangerment”? I think that is an overreach by the government.


13 posted on 03/21/2012 8:00:44 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: HamiltonJay

My parents went somewhere for several days when my brother and I were that age. We went to school during the days, and a neighbor’s teenager, 16 or so, came over in the evenings to help us fix supper, and spent the night. Kids that age can be reasonably responsible, but for that length of time, I think sensible parents would have arranged someone to check on them and be available in an emergency.


14 posted on 03/21/2012 8:01:20 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Number-one Son earns Eagle Scout. Family collapses in relief. Where's the wine?)
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To: ConservativeStatement
Twelve for a few hours, okay. Overnight in an emergency? Probably okay. Flying to Vegas to gamble is NOT an emergency. Sorry, but these parents are ignorant and extremely selfish.
15 posted on 03/21/2012 8:01:36 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (We can't have economic progress...there is a slug somewhere that needs to be saved. Mich Patriot)
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To: DTogo
"Shanpreta and Antowain"

Guess that race ...

16 posted on 03/21/2012 8:02:26 AM PDT by tom h
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To: ConservativeStatement

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2118184/Parents-leave-young-children-TWO-DAYS-jet-Las-Vegas-party-weekend.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

more on the story (with plenty of pictures)


17 posted on 03/21/2012 8:05:52 AM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: Peter from Rutland

With both parents working, my sisters and I were home alone pretty much every day.


18 posted on 03/21/2012 8:07:57 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Nervous Tick
"Funny... I didn’t think the Amish were *into* gambling!"

Having once been a Pit Boss at a casino, I can tell you that they are definitely *into* gambling. They also like to blame dealers for "taking" their rent money, light bill payments, children's shoes, etc. I often spoke up to point out that the dealer didn't "take" anything, it was willingly put on the table and lost.

19 posted on 03/21/2012 8:13:41 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies ... plan it.)
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To: cripplecreek

I was babysitting for money at 12 as well...

For two days - that’s a bit much. Don’t think that neglect comes into play here though.


20 posted on 03/21/2012 8:15:24 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: ConservativeStatement

The chicago tribune doesn’t care one bit about these kids. The story is meant to show how bad parents are and confirm the rightness of abortion. This is a disguised abortion story.


21 posted on 03/21/2012 8:17:10 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: ConservativeStatement

My Mom and Dad would leave for days.

But I kept finding them.


22 posted on 03/21/2012 8:19:16 AM PDT by bushbuddy
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To: ConservativeStatement

Hey - it’s not like they sent the kids to Mexico with 12 of their friends.


23 posted on 03/21/2012 8:21:24 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: DTogo
Shanpreta and Antowain... clearly traumatized by the names given to them by their own parents.

Those silly Amish and their Biblical names.
24 posted on 03/21/2012 8:37:18 AM PDT by crosshairs
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

>> Having once been a Pit Boss at a casino, I can tell you that they are definitely *into* gambling.

I defer to your real-world experience, but help me understand: are you talking about genuine buggy-riding Amish, or “Free Republic Quote-Unquote Amish”? :-)

Thx and FRegards


25 posted on 03/21/2012 8:42:55 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: crosshairs

>> Those silly Amish and their Biblical names.

Refresh my memory, what book do those characters show up in? Is it I Yohomie, or II Whassup?


26 posted on 03/21/2012 8:45:32 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Mich Patriot

>> Flying to Vegas to gamble is NOT an emergency.

Not even if the brotha has, like, a REALLY bad gambling Jones?


27 posted on 03/21/2012 8:48:03 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Nervous Tick
I defer to your real-world experience, but help me understand: are you talking about genuine buggy-riding Amish, or “Free Republic Quote-Unquote Amish”? :-)

The answer to that had been already provided:

They also like to blame dealers for "taking" their rent money, light bill payments,

Besides, I'm sure some of the true Amish might say that gambling is a sin.

28 posted on 03/21/2012 8:54:27 AM PDT by Greysard
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To: TexasFreeper2009
12 years old is old enough to baby sit. I don’t see what the issue is here. It wasn’t that long ago that people married at 12 and 13

I remember my Grandpa telling me that at age 12, my Uncle George, used to drive my Grandma to work in the Model A before driving himself to school.
29 posted on 03/21/2012 8:55:59 AM PDT by DJlaysitup
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To: Tax-chick

I agree, and said as much:

“2 days might be a bit of a stretch in terms of time unless you have a relative of neighbor close by/checking in on them”

If they were completely on their own with no one checking on them at all for 2 days, that is definitely getting into a grey area.

However if they arranged for someone (neighbor, relative) to pop in and check in on them, I don’t think 2 days is something that is worthy of anything. I don’t think I’d personally do that, but I don’t think its endangerment.


30 posted on 03/21/2012 9:00:01 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: ConservativeStatement
I wonder how much government assistance they get each month?
31 posted on 03/21/2012 9:00:33 AM PDT by martinidon
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To: GreenHornet
Hey - it’s not like they sent the kids to Mexico with 12 of their friends.

We have a winner!

32 posted on 03/21/2012 9:03:49 AM PDT by sportutegrl (There is no such thing as leftover bacon.)
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To: cripplecreek

I would imagine a couple of kids 9 and 12 would love to have mom and dad go off to Vegas for a weekend here and there.
I know I did.


33 posted on 03/21/2012 9:04:20 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

And if there had been a medical emergency NO ONE would have been there to authorize care... and that’s the least of it. Baby sitting is for a few hours. The folks left for several days. And pardon me it is a loooong time ago that people married when they were 12 or 13 ( certainly not in the modern era and less so even in the 1800s)


34 posted on 03/21/2012 9:04:20 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Greysard; JustaDumbBlonde

>> The answer to that had been already provided... *light bill payments*

(smacking forehead) Ah! Duh! You made the lights come on! Thanks!


35 posted on 03/21/2012 9:07:13 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: ConservativeStatement

36 posted on 03/21/2012 9:32:56 AM PDT by tomkat (FU.baraq)
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To: Nervous Tick

Ha ha ha...well I guess if it’s REALLY bad.


37 posted on 03/21/2012 9:36:22 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (We can't have economic progress...there is a slug somewhere that needs to be saved. Mich Patriot)
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To: HamiltonJay

I was just agreeing and giving an example ;-).

It seemed from the article that no provision was made for any supervision of the children until the boy told a teacher they’d been left alone. At that point, a relative was contacted to watch over them.


38 posted on 03/21/2012 9:39:29 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Number-one Son earns Eagle Scout. Family collapses in relief. Where's the wine?)
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To: Nervous Tick

lol


39 posted on 03/21/2012 9:55:52 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies ... plan it.)
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To: Nifster

“And if there had been a medical emergency NO ONE would have been there to authorize care”

In a medical emergency authorization is not needed.


40 posted on 03/21/2012 11:04:58 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: cripplecreek

“A 9 and 12 year old are fine alone during the day “

Obviously, you’ve never been to Uptown before. Even as a grown man, in the middle of the day, I try to stick to the main thoroughfares and get out as fast as possible. It’s like the Mos Eisley spaceport from Star Wars... wretched hive of scum and villainy.


41 posted on 03/21/2012 11:19:32 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Nervous Tick

“Not even if the brotha has, like, a REALLY bad gambling Jones?”

Not when they built a Casino in Rosemont that is like 20 minutes away by car.


42 posted on 03/21/2012 11:30:09 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Persevero

Not always true. Life threatening and medical emergemcy are not the same. Minor children have no ability to approve medical treatment. Guardians and parents or courts do and sometimes docs have to get court permission unless it is life threatening....


43 posted on 03/21/2012 12:35:00 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

“Guardians and parents or courts do and sometimes docs have to get court permission unless it is life threatening....”

Right, “life threatening” being the important phrase.


44 posted on 03/21/2012 12:42:25 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Persevero

If my child has a broken leg ( as opposed to an appendicitis attack) I still want that treated sooner rather than later. It is not considered life threatening but I want it handled today.

These parents were self centered in the extreme. They wanted to go so they did. Not good parenting by any measure


45 posted on 03/21/2012 12:46:08 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

I do believe a child with a broken leg would be treated even if no adult was around to give permission. A broken leg is indeed life threatening.

However, I’d never leave my twelve year old with no adult supervision for two days.


46 posted on 03/21/2012 2:47:23 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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