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FACT CHECK: Santorum on Earmarks
Club For Growth ^ | 1/6/2012 | Club for Growth

Posted on 03/22/2012 4:33:01 AM PDT by Mangia E Statti Zitto

In a recent article in the Wall Street Journal, reporters found that Santorum sent “hundreds of millions of dollars to Pennsylvania,” by looking at press releases from Santorum’s office and at news accounts at the time. Thus, we can conclude that Santorum did request earmarks as a member of Congress. Furthermore, Santorum voted for the notorious 2005 Highway Bill, which contained literally thousands of earmarks including the infamous “Bridge to Nowhere,” (Senate Roll Call Vote #220, 2005).

Not only did Santorum vote for the bill that contained the Bridge to Nowhere, but when Senator Tom Coburn of Oklahoma offered an amendment to shift the money being spent on the bridge to nowhere to disaster relief to New Orleans in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, Santorum voted to keep the Alaskan pork project.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: earmarks; elections; ideasvsideology; noideas; nomessage; santorum
For Senator Santorum, some earmarks are more equal than others.
1 posted on 03/22/2012 4:33:05 AM PDT by Mangia E Statti Zitto
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To: Mangia E Statti Zitto

I’ve switched my primary support to Newt, from Santorum, for this a several other reasons.


2 posted on 03/22/2012 4:48:56 AM PDT by carriage_hill (I'll "vote for an orange juice can", over Barry 0bummer and another 4yrs of his Regime From Hell!)
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To: Mangia E Statti Zitto
Rick has been a big government politician - his rhetoric does not match his record.
3 posted on 03/22/2012 4:52:28 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Mangia E Statti Zitto

Much of the Katrina money was also pure pork.
There are probably Karina people still living in government provided housing.


4 posted on 03/22/2012 4:52:33 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: carriage_hill
I’ve switched my primary support to Newt, from Santorum, for this a several other reasons.

GREAT!! Thanks for being a new member of the

GO BACK TO NEWT AND STAY THERE CAMPAIGN!!

Glad to have you on board, and please spread the word...
5 posted on 03/22/2012 4:54:18 AM PDT by true believer forever (If Newt is good enough for Sarah, he's good enough for me!)
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To: true believer forever

I love Newt.
VERY early in this campaign, Newt got the first taste of Mitt’s slime. He said he was going to talk to Santorum.

I suspect that he and Rick have something worked out.

I would love to see Newt as Pres and Rick as VP.


6 posted on 03/22/2012 5:39:22 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Breitbart)
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To: Mangia E Statti Zitto

Social Cons: “Nothing to see here. Move along.”


7 posted on 03/22/2012 5:42:03 AM PDT by Josh Painter ("We intend to change Washington, not accomodate it." - Newt Gingrich)
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To: netmilsmom

I have fox and friends on in the background, and just heard rick perry is going to be on in a few minutes, and they are going to ask him about a Perry Gingrich ticket rumors - Now that I could get excited about!!


8 posted on 03/22/2012 5:42:55 AM PDT by true believer forever (If Newt is good enough for Sarah, he's good enough for me!)
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To: carriage_hill

Going for that Orange Juice Can, I see.

Gingrich is against EVERYTHING this site stands for. God, Family, Country, Life & Liberty conservativism - Gingrich sell-out!

1974 - At age 31, Newt makes his first bid for Congress against Conservative Democrat incumbent, Jack Flynt. He runs as a so-called “Progressive Republican” far to the left of the very Conservative Flynt. Newt is supported by his liberal colleagues from college and is endorsed by environmentalists, including the League of Conservation Voters. He loses.

1976 - In 1976 Newt made his second bid for Congress. He again runs as a left-wing Republican Progressive, with environmentalists’ backing. Again, he loses.

1978 - Newt runs for Congress for a third time. With Conservative Democrat Jack Flynt retiring, Newt changes his stripes and runs as a Conservative, against a more liberal Democrat.
May 16, 1979 - As a freshman Congressman, Newt immediately betrays his Conservative platform. He votes for a federal land grab that put tens of millions of acres in the hands of Washington bureaucrats, under the guise of so-called “environmentalism”. To the astute observer, this behaviour is unsurprising given Newt’s previous obsession with environmentalism as a College teacher.

June 28, 1979 - Gingrich voted for an oil windfall profits tax in 1979, which was signed by Jimmy Carter.

September 20, 1979 - Gingrich voted to raise the debt ceiling.

September 27, 1979 - Gingrich voted to establish the Federal Department of Education

October 23, 1979 - Gingrich voted for gasoline rationing and Jimmy Carter’s Emergency Energy Conservation Act.

October 24, 1979 - Gingrich voted for federal farm subsidies to encourage the use of green energy on farms.

October 31, 1979 - Gingrich voted for Jimmy Carter’s “Energy Mobilization Board.” Carter wanted the authority to ration gasoline, form an ‘energy mobilization board,’ create a bureaucracy to guarantee that we would ‘never use more foreign oil than we did in 1977,’ set oil import quotas and develop solar power. ‘These efforts will cost money,’ Carter explained, “a lot of money….”

November 8, 1979 - Gingrich voted for federal subsidies on milk prices.

December 4, 1979 - Gingrich voted for federally-funded wind energy research.

December 18, 1979 - Gingrich voted in favor of the Chrysler Bailout and a 3-year wage freeze on Chrysler workers.

December 19, 1979 - Gingrich voted to extend HUD programs in 1979.

April 16, 1980 - Gingrich voted for another federal land grab, the 2.3M-Acre Idaho River of No Return Wilderness.

June 4, 1980 - Newt voted to raise the debt ceiling for the second time.

September, 1980 - Gingrich’s wife Jackie is taken to hospital to be treated for uterine cancer.

Stephen Talbot of Salon wrote...

“The most notorious incident in Gingrich’s marriage ... was when he cornered Jackie in her hospital room where she was recovering from uterine cancer surgery and insisted on discussing the terms of the divorce he was seeking. Shortly after that infamous encounter, Gingrich refused to pay his alimony and child-support payments. The First Baptist Church in his hometown had to take up a collection to support the family Gingrich had deserted. Six months after divorcing Jackie, Gingrich married a younger woman, Marianne, with whom he had been having an affair.”

Peter Boyer of Vanity Fair wrote that...

“She [Jackie] says that Gingrich walked out on her in the spring of 1980. That fall, while she was in the hospital recovering from surgery for uterine cancer, he appeared at her bedside with a yellow legal pad outlining the details for their divorce.”

February 5, 1981 - Gingrich votes to raise the debt ceiling for the third time.

June 24, 1981 - Gingrich voted for continued authorizations of the federal Corporation of Public Broadcasting in 1981, and again in 1984, and resisted efforts to cut the public broadcasting budget.

July 28, 1981 - Gingrich voted for the creation of the U.S. Travel and Tourism Administration.

August, 1981 - Newt Gingrich marries Marianne, the woman with whom he was having an affair.

October 28, 1981 - Gingrich voted for increased powers to the FDIC to bail out struggling savings and loans through reorganization, purchase of bad assets, or recapitalization (TARP-Lite).

December 16, 1981 - Gingrich voted for an increase in taxes on coal producers in 1981.

March 9, 1982 - Gingrich voted for federally-funded research on potatoes (no joke - Bill was called POTATO RESEARCH PROMOTION ACT).

March 18, 1982 - Gingrich voted to reaffirm that the cash deposits are backed by the full faith and credit of the United States.

May 12, 1982 - Gingrich voted for a $1 Billion increase in federal mortgage subsidies in 1982 - condoning the federal involvement in the mortgage industry that led to the housing collapse.

May 20, 1982 - Gingrich voted to strengthen the federal home loan agencies “to ensure the availability of home mortgage loans’ - again, condoning the federal involvement in the mortgage industry that led to the housing collapse.

August 4, 1982 - Gingrich voted for another federal land grab, expanding the Sipsey Wilderness.

December 6, 1982 - Gingrich voted for an increase in the gas tax.

December 16, 1982 - Gingrich voted for another federal land grab, expanding the 1.5M-Acre Mark Twain National Forest.

April 12, 1983 - Gingrich voted for another federal land grab, a 2.3M-Acre national forest in California.

November 16, 1983 - Gingrich voted for another federal land grab, designation of large wilderness areas in Wisconsin and North Carolina.

February 9, 1984 - Gingrich voted for hundreds of millions of federal research dollars going toward environmental research and development in 1984 and 1985.

May 8, 1984 - Gingrich voted for another federal land grab, designation of large wilderness areas in Virginia.

June 28, 1984 - Gingrich votes to raise the debt ceiling for the fourth time.

October 2, 1984 - Gingrich was one of the few who voted against the 1984 bill requiring the President and Congress to submit a balanced budget.

April 2, 1987 - Gingrich co-sponsors H.R. 1934, to implement the infamous & unconstitutional “Fairness Doctrine”. Gingrich now claims he only wanted the Fairness Doctrine to hinder left-wing networks. Ronald Reagan ultimately vetoed the legislation.

April 11, 1988 - Newt says “If Bush runs as a continuation of Reaganism, I think he’ll lose.” Gingrich now repeatedly mentions Ronald Reagan positively, to improve his standing among conservatives.

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February 22, 1989 - In 1989, Gingrich was one of the sponsors behind a bill that would have made controlling the growth of the world population a goal of the U.S. government. The bill was the Global Warming Prevention Act of 1989. The bill “Declares it is the policy of the United States that family planning services should be made available to all persons requesting them. Authorizes appropriations for FY 1991 through 1995 for international population and family planning assistance.”

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June 9, 1989 - Newt Gingrich warns Democrats against criticizing Savings & Loan bail-out.

June 15, 1989 - Newt voted for the bail-out of Savings & Loan.

November 15, 1990 - Clean Air Act Amendments are signed into law. They contain a cap-and-trade system and are supported by the then Minority Whip, Newt Gingrich.

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7 May 1991 - Newt Gingrich tells Republicans to “.. at one level, Relax and accept” abortion for the sake of Party unity.

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December 8, 1993 - Gingrich preached NAFTA and whipped Republicans into supporting it. Gingrich later said NAFTA was good because it created jobs in Mexico, not the US.

September 27, 1994 - The “Contract with America” is announced. Newt Gingrich had worked hard to make sure the so-called “Contract with America” was mere tinkering on the economic front, and excluded important conservative issues like abortion. He later admitted this .

Tom Woods writes in his book Back on the Road to Serfdom (2011) ...

The failure of conservatives to make significant inroads into the federal apparatus was symbolized by the Contract with America, the series of proposals Republicans promised to support on the eve of their off-year landslide in 1994. What was portrayed as a bold array of policy initiatives was in fact a timid and insignificant list of changes that would have left the federal apparatus for all intents and purposes unchanged.

The establishmentarian Brookings Institution later correctly observed that ...
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Viewed historically, the Contract represents the final consolidation of the bedrock domestic policies and programs of the New Deal, the Great Society, the post-Second World War defense establishment, and, most importantly, the deeply rooted national political culture that has grown up around them.

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November, 1994 - The fake Republican revolution against big-government sweeps Gingrich into the Speakership.

Jacob G. Hornberger, Founder of the Future of Freedom Foundation, later writes ...

“With the Republican takeover of both houses of Congress in 1994, the Republicans announced that a new “revolution” had swept America, led by Senator Robert Dole and Representatives Newt Gingrich and Richard Armey. Of course, there was the famous “Contract with America,” but the provisions of that document involved minor tinkering with the system, at best.”

January 2, 1995 - Newt Gingrich says he wants the federal government to fund Ballet!, among other arts projects...

“I’d like to find some way to look at bloc-granting to the states, some money for the arts, at the state and local level. I’m for the Atlanta Ballet. I’m for the High Museum of Art or the Metropolitan Museum of Art.

January 4, 1995 - Newt Gingrich becomes Speaker of the House and recommends all members of the House read the works of Alvin and Heidi Toffler, two futurists who are pro-abortion and believe the American Constitution is outdated. In his opening speech he repeatedly praises FDR and the New Deal.

January 31, 1995 - Gingrich strongly supported Bill Clinton’s Bail-Out of the Mexican Peso, without the approval of his own Congress.

April 10, 1995 - Gingrich supports federal funding of abortion.

June 11, 1995 - Gingrich has a love-fest “debate” with President Clinton in Claremont, New Hampshire. Gingrich said he was a big fan of Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson.

July 6, 1995 - Appearing on Charlie Rose, Gingrich admits that he purposely excluded abortion from the “Contract with America” and bemoans that the Republicans wouldn’t have a majority if they excluded the pro-abortionists.

July, 1995 - In a speech at the Center for Strategic and International Affairs Gingrich brazenly admitted his disdain for the Constitution.

Gingrich told the gathering ...

“The American challenge in leading the world is compounded by our Constitution,” he said. “Under our [constitutional system] - either we’re going to have to rethink our Constitution, or we’re going to have to rethink our process of decision-making.” He went on to profess an oxymoronic belief in “very strong but limited federal government,” and pledged, “I am for the United Nations.” That is certainly no surprise since his mentor is none other than former Secretary of State and National Security Advisor Henry Kissinger (also a CFR member and one-world internationalist)

June 12, 1996 - Gingrich says there needs to be a “sense of tolerance” of abortion in the Republican Party.

July 5, 1996 - “There is alot of room in the Republican party for pro-choice republicans”

September 16, 1996 - Gingrich voted for the Lautenberg Gun Ban.

September 28, 1996 - Gingrich voted for the “Gun Free School Zones Act”, making schools easier targets.

December, 1996 - Gingrich recieves a “D” rating from Gun Owners of America.

January 17, 1998 - Gingrich gets up at an RNC meeting, and announces that he’ll campaign for Republican candidates who support Partial Birth Abortion. He was responding to a motion that was put forth to ban funding to Republican candidates that support Partial Birth abortion. He urged the members to defeat the motion, an utterly disgusting act.

March 1, 1998 - Appearing on Iowa Public Television, Gingrich renews his support for ethanol subsidies.

April 6, 1998 - Appearing on Charlie Rose, Gingrich admits the failure of the “Contract with America”.

June 26, 1998 - Speaker Gingrich supports tax-payer funding of the International Monetary Fund (IMF). This is foreign “aid” for third world dictatorships.

November 6, 1998 - Gingrich resigns from the Speakership in disgrace, an embarrasment to conservatives. As a means of highlighting Gingrich’s big-government record, it is later reported that Gingrich, in the previous 12 years, had co-sponsored a total of 418 bills with liberal Democrat Nancy Pelosi.

February 21, 2002 - Gingrich praises the progressive movement and Franklin D. Roosevelt’s New Deal

January, 2003 - Gingrich founds the Center for Health Transformation, which advocates its own version of socialized medicine.

January 20, 2005 - In an interview with Charlies Rose, Gingrich says Roe V Wade won’t be overturned. Consistent with his career-long lack of fervor on the abortion issue, he expresses no frustration or willingness to fight to overturn it.

July 20, 2005 - Gingrich speaks with Hillary Clinton at an event called “Ceasefire on Health Care”. In this discussion he agrees with Hillary on many points and also expresses his support (yet again) for an individual mandate.

August 8, 2005 - In an interview on NPR (which i’ve embedded below), Gingrich again supports the individual mandate.

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October 12, 2005 - Gingrich calls for the DNA testing of all US citizens
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February 15, 2007 - Gingrich speaks out in favor of a cap-and-trade system...

“I think if you have mandatory carbon caps combined with a trading system, much like we did with sulfur, and if you have a tax-incentive program for investing in the solutions, that there’s a package there that’s very, very good. And frankly, it’s something I would strongly support.”

March 27, 2007 - In an interview with Charlie Rose, Gingrich denounces the manner in which the Kyoto Treaty was rejected and says reducing carbon dioxide is a “totally sound concept”

March 28, 2007 - In an interview with Hugh Hewitt, Gingrich calls for restrictions on 2nd amendment rights.

April 10, 2007 - In a love-fest debate on climate policy with Sen. John Kerry (D-MA), Gingrich says “the evidence is sufficient that we should move towards the most effective possible steps to reduce carbon-loading of the atmosphere,” and that we should “do it urgently.” In the same debate Gingrich touts his “green” credentials, including his key role in maintaining the economically-crippling so-called “Endangered Species Act”.

April 24, 2007 - Gingrich says about Government-Sponsored Enterprises (GSEs): “conservatives should embrace [them] and want to extend as widely as possible.”

September 27, 2007 - Gingrich launches his new organisation, American Solutions. This organisation went on to endorse federal involvement in areas such as energy, education, labor and the environment.

October, 2007 - Newt Gingrich’s pro-environmentalist book “A Contract with the Earth” is published.

December 2, 2007 - In an appearance on C-SPAN Gingrich denies going soft on Bill Clinton in their debate in the 90s. He re-iterates that government should act to reduce carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, calling it “a prudent step”. Gingrich re-iterates that he favors taxpayer-funded subsidies for so-called green energy, like wind and solar power, and further states that he’s always been an environmentalist. Also responding to a question about unconstitutional behavior, he favorably quotes Supreme Court Justice Robert H. Jackson (A left-wing, statist FDR appointee) who in 1949 argued that free speech restrictions are legitimate.

April, 2008 - Newt accepts Al Gore’s invitation to make a global warming commercial with Nancy Pelosi, for Gore’s organization. Newt calls Gore a “friend”.

March 31, 2009 - Gingrich converts to Catholicism, his third religion.

April 24, 2009 - Congressional committee hearings on Cap-and-Trade take place. Gingrich, after previously supporting Cap-and-Trade, testifies against the Waxman-Markey Cap-and-Trade Bill. His flip-flop is exposed by a member of the committee, and he reponds by saying he would consider supporting cap-and-trade under certain circumstances.

May, 2009 - Gingrich publically supports the ObamaCare individual mandate. He says ObamaCare is a “Healthier ... More Open” process than HillaryCare.

2009 - Gingrich was hired as a consultant to an ethanol lobbying group, called Growth Energy, for a wage of more than $300,000 per year.

October 16, 2009 - Newt Gingrich endorses Dede Scozzafava in New York District 23.

September, 2009 - Gingrich’s launches his “Americanos” site, pandering and promoting himself to illegal immigrants.

May 18, 2010 - Newt Gingrich defends his global warming ad with Nancy Pelosi, and goes further by saying he’d be willing to do an ad with Al Gore.

October 12, 2010 - Newt’s American Solutions Spam-Scam is exposed.

November 15, 2010 - Gingrich defends RomneyCare.

December 12, 2010 - Gingrich gets into heated debate with Laura Ingraham over his advocacy of a path to legality for illegal immigrants.

December 16, 2010 - Newt’s American Solutions Spam-Scam is exposed.... again

January 25, 2011 - Travels to Iowa for the Renewable Fuels Association conference. He renews his support for ethanol subsidies and proclaims that he won’t abolish the EPA, but will merely rebrand it.

March 7, 2011 - Gingrich blames his marital infidelity on patriotism

March 14, 2011 - Gingrich says NAFTA worked because it created jobs in Mexico

March 17, 2011 - It is revealed that Newt Gingrich had up to $500,000 in debt to high-end jewellery company Tiffanys in 2005/2006. It is later revealed that the debt to Tiffanys was actually more than a million dollars. Further, following the scandal, Gingrich and his wife are spotted shopping at Tiffanys yet again.

March 23, 2011 - Gingrich completes a massive flip-flop on Obama’s War in Libya

May 15, 2011 - Appearing on Meet the Press, Gingrich calls Paul Ryan’s budget plan “right-wing social engineering” & he renews his 20-year-long support for the unconsitutional individual mandate on purchasing healthcare .

November 18, 2011 - Newt’s Direct Mail Spam-Scam is exposed ... again.

December 8, 2011 - Liberal David Brooks writes in the New York Times...

In the first place, Gingrich loves government more than I do. He has no Hayekian modesty to restrain his faith in statist endeavor. For example, he has called for “a massive new program to build a permanent lunar colony to exploit the Moon’s resources.” He has suggested that “a mirror system in space could provide the light equivalent of many full moons so that there would be no need for nighttime lighting of the highways.”

December 8, 2011 - LA Times reports that Gingrich has a book coming out about environmentalism, that he edited with his friend Terry Maple. The book contains a chapter on global warming by scientist Katharine Hayhoe, an alarmist advocate of the theory of man-made global warming. Naturally, publishing of the book has been delayed until after the 2012 elections. Later (Dec 29), Newt told a concerned supporter that the chapter on global warming had been taken out, and denied any prior knowledge that the chapter existed (in his own book).

January 23, 2012 - At an NBC debate, Newt says he wants American tax-payers to fund his idea for a manned mission to Mars and a “permanent” Moon base. He also insinuates that he was a supporter of Barry Goldwater in the 1960’s. A C-SPAN interview from 1988 then surfaced, with Gingrich saying he supported Nelson Rockefeller and the Progressive, establishment Republicans over Barry Goldwater, Ronald Reagan and the conservatives.


9 posted on 03/22/2012 5:42:55 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: jacknhoo

Forgot source link:
http://newtexposed.com/


10 posted on 03/22/2012 5:44:41 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: jacknhoo
Your post is such a wealth of lies, fabrications, innuendo, and outright slimes, I don't where to start. But I will debunk this one, as it is the most egregious and filthy...

If you can't do better than this, then maybe you need to not post until you get a handle on the fact - the truth shall set you free... but you have to stop lying first.

You wrote:

“The most notorious incident in Gingrich’s marriage ... was when he cornered Jackie in her hospital room where she was recovering from uterine cancer surgery and insisted on discussing the terms of the divorce he was seeking. Shortly after that infamous encounter, Gingrich refused to pay his alimony and child-support payments. The First Baptist Church in his hometown had to take up a collection to support the family Gingrich had deserted. Six months after divorcing Jackie, Gingrich married a younger woman, Marianne, with whom he had been having an affair.”

Peter Boyer of Vanity Fair wrote that...

“She [Jackie] says that Gingrich walked out on her in the spring of 1980. That fall, while she was in the hospital recovering from surgery for uterine cancer, he appeared at her bedside with a yellow legal pad outlining the details for their divorce.”

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The truth shall set you free:

Jackie Gingrich Cushman wrote a column in May of this year called “Setting the Record Straight” where she dealt with the myth of Newt Gingrich serving his wife divorce papers while she was in the hospital dying with terminal cancer. Here is the link:

http://townhall.com/columnists/jackiegingrichcushman/2011/05/08/setting_the_record_straight/page/full/

Here are a few excerpts from the article:

--- For years, I have thought about trying to correct the untrue accounts of this hospital visit… But I have always hesitated, as it was a private family matter and my mother is a very private person.

--- "As for my parents' divorce... It was the spring of 1980. My parents told my sister and me that they were getting a divorce..."

--- "Later that summer, Mom went to Emory University Hospital in Atlanta for surgery to remove a tumor. It is this visit that has turned into the infamous hospital visit about which many untruths have been told… here's what happened:

My mother and father were already in the process of getting a divorce, which she requested.

Dad took my sister and me to the hospital to see our mother. She had undergone surgery the day before to remove a tumor. The tumor was benign."

--- "As have many families, we have healed; we have moved on.

My mother and father are alive and well, and my sister and I are blessed to have a close relationship with them both."

This is just one of the many fabrications the media and Newt's enemies have circulated over the years. I can't imagine how many others there are. If you read the article, it was obviously difficult for Jackie to talk about this, but she did, because at some point you have to take on the liars. If the Gingrich family has moved on from this event so many years ago, as Jackie states, maybe it's time for everybody else to move on, also.

11 posted on 03/22/2012 5:54:14 AM PDT by true believer forever (If Newt is good enough for Sarah, he's good enough for me!)
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To: jacknhoo
"September 16, 1996 - Gingrich voted for the Lautenberg Gun Ban."

Didn't know that one.

12 posted on 03/22/2012 5:58:46 AM PDT by RabidBartender (The above statement is not meant to be offensive to women. Please don't whine and have me banned.)
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To: true believer forever

You might be excited about that but we have to be realistic here.

If Santorum and Newt combined their delegates, we easily win. Newt plays to win. He has ego (he must as a politician) but he is also the smartest egg in the bunch.

I’m waiting it out. Whatever he decides is good for me.


13 posted on 03/22/2012 6:02:03 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Breitbart)
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To: true believer forever

YOUR POST IS THE LIE, INNUENDO AND FABRICATION.

My post never says what you lied:

You said, my post said, “Newt Gingrich serving his wife divorce papers while she was in the hospital dying with terminal cancer.”

It never says any such thing.

Your accusation is a blatant mis-representation. You are a dubious person, that way you attacked me, PERSONALLY!

I AM WAITING FOR YOUR RESPONSE TO EVERYTHING ELSE IN MY POST!

It will be intereszting to see just how “truthful” you can be now.


14 posted on 03/22/2012 6:06:10 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Mangia E Statti Zitto

This is reported as a bad thing? Sounds pretty neutral


15 posted on 03/22/2012 6:09:44 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: jacknhoo

Looks like Newt is really just another progressive, at least his record sure is.

Talkin’ the talk, but stumbling all over the place in reality.

This does explain his fancy for the climate change hoax.


16 posted on 03/22/2012 6:11:10 AM PDT by dforest
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To: GeronL

As I read the article, Santorum refused to vote for an earmark that got its funding from the famous Bridge to Nowhere earmark, that Santorum had previously voted for. In other words, he would rather fund the bridge than Katrina. If he had voted “NO” on both, then you would be correct, this issue would be neutral.


17 posted on 03/22/2012 7:00:32 AM PDT by Mangia E Statti Zitto
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To: jacknhoo

ANYONE to get rid of 0bummer&Co from this country!


18 posted on 03/22/2012 9:39:14 AM PDT by carriage_hill (I'll "vote for an orange juice can", over Barry 0bummer and another 4yrs of his Regime From Hell!)
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To: jacknhoo

I think your list is about as useful to the debate as all the stupid lists the GIngrich folks have put out to attack Santorum.

It shows that you can take anybody’s record, pick out specific votes and issues, along with selected quotes from media outlets, and make them look like flaming liberals.

There are some things in the list I would argue about, like the attacks on Gingrich for his personal life. But I like the list, simply because when the Gingrich folks rightly complain about it, they might realize the problem with the list of Santorum “transgressions”.

This illustrates that (flaws and all) better than simply stating it. Gingrich is not a liberal, he is sufficiently conservative, as can be seen by his various ratings (which are not great, but are “conservative enough”, and essentially identical to Santorum’s various ratings, and I believe Santorum is “conservative enough”.

If you were to keep posting this list, I would suggest removing all references to Gingrich’s personal life; some of your source material has been essentially debunked, and it will allow opinion-based arguments. Best to have a list with simple factual statements of votes taken, and quotes of statements made. Let the reader make their own conclusions, so you don’t get attacked for editorializing.

By including that stuff, you’ll let somebody pull the “it’s all lies, and I’ll just take the time to point out ONE lie” trick; they can only find one lie, but it looks like they have debunked your list.

But remember, I think the list is useless except as a tool to show the rediculousness of the list of “bad Santorum votes”.


19 posted on 03/22/2012 10:09:21 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Mangia E Statti Zitto
First, all these attacks are doing is helping Romney since Newt's campaign is debt and isn't going to last very much longer.

SECONDLY, earmarks are apparently a bad habit Santorum LEARNED FROM MENTOR, MR. NEWT, who took earmarks to a whole new level and turned them into an art form as Speaker:

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/289425/newt-and-earmark-era-katrina-trinko

As a congressman in the House, Newt Gingrich didn’t just request earmarks: He also fundamentally changed and expanded their use.

Gingrich’s willingness to allow non–Appropriations Committee House members to push for earmarks “really changed how members viewed earmarks,” says Citizens Against Government Waste (CAGW) president Thomas Schatz, noting that House members had previously had to appeal to the Appropriations Committee to grant earmarks. “So [when] earmarking became more widespread, it was going to a lot more members.”

“He really set in motion the largest explosion of earmarks in the history of Congress,” Schatz added of Gingrich.

20 posted on 03/22/2012 10:56:13 AM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
All very good points and I agree....I've been around the block a few times now :)

I have pretty much kept my mouth shut about Gingrich, because I will take him any day over Romney. Slamming him does more harm than good. Gingrich is not the most ethical man in the world and has a ton of record to prove that.

IF only he could take all his excellent knowledge and speaking talents and apply them in a more moral manner, I would truly love the man.

My Mother probably says the same thing about me...lol.

Rick Santorum is my pick.

But I saw this post for what is was...dubious, hateful and anti-Christian...anti-true Christian, that is - it flew all over me, for some reason.

Gingrich is pretty much out of the race and people who are attacking Santorum now, calling themselves conservatives, are not conservatives. They know any attacks on Santorum helps Romney and does nothing for Gingrich.

21 posted on 03/22/2012 11:31:18 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: jacknhoo

Good luck with Rick. I will vote for him if I have to. Meanwhile I am preparing the vasoline. It can be cold you know.


22 posted on 03/22/2012 11:39:35 AM PDT by dt57 (illerate, noobie....)
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