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Zimmerman was on the ground being punched when he shot Trayvon Martin(FL)
Charleston Conservative Examiner ^ | 21 March, 2012 | Kyle Rogers

Posted on 03/22/2012 4:55:30 AM PDT by marktwain

Last weekend in the city of Chicago alone, gangbangers slaughtered ten people and wounded another forty. The youngest fatality is only six years old. The youngest person wounded is only one-year-old. Many of the victim were pedestrians sprayed with bullets in drive by shootings. The national news has said nothing about this.

So why does one shooting in Florida warrant weeks of national news? Why has there been thousands of articles a day, for the last four days, about one single shooting?

Almost all of the news items about George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin contains a combination of false statements, opinions presented as facts, transparent distortions, and a complete absence of some of the most relevant details. Almost all news items are written soley from the point of view of the grieving family. The media also fills their articles with outdated baby-faced pictures of Trayvon. Very few include that he was a towering 6'2” football player. Is the media really reporting the news, or is this classic agitation/propaganda to advance a political agenda.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: banglist; fl; georgezimmerman; lies; politicalcorrectness; propaganda; shooting; trayvonmartin
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Many freepers will find the article illuminating. The police played the 911 tape to Trayvon Martin's father, who tells police that the voice screaming is not the voice of his son.
1 posted on 03/22/2012 4:55:37 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Does this blogger cite to any source? There is nothing in the excerpt (and I won’t go to that disease-ridden blog site).


2 posted on 03/22/2012 4:57:52 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (My doctor told me to curtail my Walpoling activities.)
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To: marktwain
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3 posted on 03/22/2012 4:58:50 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: marktwain

My local paper ran a picture of the ‘teenager’ - looks like it was taken when he was 12 or 13 years old. Anyone have a current picture to post?


4 posted on 03/22/2012 5:01:58 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrat-Media Complex - buried stories and distorted facts... freeper 'andrew' Breitbart)
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To: ETL

“Almost all news items are written soley from the point of view of the grieving family. The media also fills their articles with outdated baby-faced pictures of Trayvon. Very few include that he was a towering 6’2” football player.”

Here’s the MSM when they think no one’s watching - it explains ‘why’....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBFOmUXR080


5 posted on 03/22/2012 5:04:59 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrat-Media Complex - buried stories and distorted facts... freeper 'andrew' Breitbart)
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To: marktwain
Joe Scarborough made me ill this morning with his Al Sharpton like reporting of this incident.
6 posted on 03/22/2012 5:05:35 AM PDT by McGruff (Newt Gingrich, the closest thing we've got to Sarah Palin.)
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To: marktwain; All
While the Zimmerman ‘white’ on black killing is covered 24/7 on the MSM with an outpouring of rage and charges of a racial hate crime, where is the concern- where is the rage about the home invasion, torture, beating, rape and the murder of the elderly white couple by ‘African Americans’ in Oklahoma just the other day?

The 90 year old war veteran husband was beaten, his jaw broken, shot in the face with a BB gun and now barely clings to life.

The 85 year old partially blind wife was raped and beaten to death.

Where is the 24/7 MSM coverage

Where is the outrage?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2861754/posts?page=46

7 posted on 03/22/2012 5:06:55 AM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Larry Lucido
He links to the Orlando Sentinel story, but I only see the headline there. I found a video talking about the same story, The video confirms what he is saying. Another interesting fact on the video was that it was prosecutors, not the police, who decided not to charge Zimmerman, because there was insufficient evidence to do so.

http://www.wesh.com/r-video/30696935/detail.html

8 posted on 03/22/2012 5:11:40 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: Larry Lucido

I live 20 miles from Sanford and have not seen any reporting on these facts. Obviously the Neighborhood watch guy did not take the 911 operators advice and continued to follow the victim. Obviously the police dept handled the whole thing poorly. Now it is all about politics and political agitation.


9 posted on 03/22/2012 5:13:05 AM PDT by vicar7 ("Polls are for strippers and cross-country skiers" Sarah Palin)
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To: marktwain

NOnononono!
According to our MSM, it’s “Racist White Bigot Shoots Cowering Black Child Honor Student”.


10 posted on 03/22/2012 5:13:13 AM PDT by Flintlock (Photo ID for ALL voting. Let our dead rest in peace!)
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To: Larry Lucido
Does this blogger cite to any source?

He does:

Linky Thing: News Article with facts the MSM leaves out

11 posted on 03/22/2012 5:14:45 AM PDT by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: marktwain
Why has there been thousands of articles a day, for the last four days, about one single shooting?

Because this unfortunate incident presents several golden opportunities for exploitation by a particular political ideology. So, it is being kept out there and on fire, until their hopes and dreams are fulfilled, that some evidence, any evidence, or even something that can be twisted to look like evidence, that this was not justified self defense.

And then the political salvos will be unleashed, in the war against the second amendment.
12 posted on 03/22/2012 5:15:40 AM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 ! We should take off and Newt washington from orbit.)
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To: GOPJ

Like “Tookie” Williams, “Mumia”, Sean Bell and Rodney King, the black and white commie left is instigating the protests with the typical help from the useful idiot lib media.


13 posted on 03/22/2012 5:15:55 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: GOPJ; All
This picture is supposed to be when he was 15 and 6 foot 3 inches tall. I cannot verify it.
14 posted on 03/22/2012 5:16:31 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Zimmerman should never have engaged the youth. He was advised to not follow by the Dispatcher and wait for Police.

He disregarded this and confronted Trayvon, which led to a physical altercation, which led to the death. He placed himself and his weapon into a situation wherein the use of deadly force was a real possibility. The class that I was in warned that this perceived power could lead to real trouble.

The whole idea of CCW is to protect yourself when accosted. It does not give you license to pursue and engage suspicious persons walking down a public street.

Everything that went wrong did so when Zimmerman interpreted Neighborhood Watch to mean he could confront anyone he deemed as suspicious.


15 posted on 03/22/2012 5:16:54 AM PDT by Mr. Quarterpanel (I am not an actor, but I play one on TV)
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To: marktwain; Fred Nerks; Beckwith

Al is just rehearsing for the riots to come this summer , as Obama signals community organizers to “take to the streets.”

We are working up to a sporadic “swival war.” based on the Al Sharpton et. al. protests by Obama’s fascists, that he is down in the polls because of racism...etc.


16 posted on 03/22/2012 5:18:50 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascist info.. http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: marktwain

On March 16th, the Sanford police department released new details to the Orlando Sentinel.

http://news.yahoo.com/video/orlandowesh-16122564/sanford-police-speak-out-in-trayvon-martin-case-28640523.html#crsl=%252Fvideo%252Forlandowesh-16122564%252Fsanford-police-speak-out-in-trayvon-martin-case-28640523.html

Once again, these details have been ignored or changed by the media.

1.The witness reports that George Zimmerman was on the ground and Trayvon is on top of him punching him.
2.The witness says that George Zimmerman was screaming and yelling for help.
3.Police arrive and find Zimmerman bleeding on his face and the back of his head. He also has had grass stains on his back. All this confirms the story told by Zimmerman and the witness.
4.Police play the 911 tape for Trayvon Martin’s father, who tells police that the voice screaming is not the voice of his son.

The neighborhood this took place in has seen a lot of crime. Would you be surprised to learn that there were eight burglaries, nine thefts, and a shooting just in the past year? In fact, the local homeowners’ association reports that George Zimmerman actually caught one thief and aided in the apprehension of other criminals. The Miami Herald wrote about this on March 17th. None of the thousands of articles and cable news segments that came after, thought this was important.


17 posted on 03/22/2012 5:20:28 AM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: marktwain
Wow! I haven't seen any of those details in the news media, at all! What BS!

Mike

18 posted on 03/22/2012 5:26:30 AM PDT by MichaelP (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools ~HS)
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To: marktwain

Thanks for the link, it explains a lot previously not revealed.

The shooting should not have happened, but the coverage has been a travesty.

When the FL police released Zimmerman, I suspected it was not like what was originally reported.


19 posted on 03/22/2012 5:26:54 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: ETL

Isn’t it amazing that a 5 year old child would be thrown out of school and have a mark on their “permanent record” for making that gesture but the thug-in-chief thinks it appropriate and funny.....grrrr


20 posted on 03/22/2012 5:28:29 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: patriot08

I am most definitely outraged by our communist inspired mainstream media.


21 posted on 03/22/2012 5:30:30 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (A free counttry and a lying media are incompatible.)
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To: patriot08

refer ping


22 posted on 03/22/2012 5:33:12 AM PDT by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: marktwain

I always knew there was more to the story than was being reported. I immediately knew there were problems when the MSM reported that Zimmerman was “white.”

My only question is this: the photo of Zimmerman that is currently being shown has him in what looks like an orange shirt. It looks like a mug shot. My husband said that originally it was identified as being taken by Orange County and then was removed in later reports.


23 posted on 03/22/2012 5:34:09 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: marktwain

It sickens me that this case is getting more attention than the Allen Goin case - the one where the white kid was SET OF FIRE while the attackers indicated a CLEAR racial motive by saying, “You get what you deserve, white boy.”


24 posted on 03/22/2012 5:34:42 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: patriot08

None of those details have a bearing on who started the fight.


25 posted on 03/22/2012 5:35:18 AM PDT by Sloth (If a tax break counts as "spending" then every time I don't rob a bank should be a "deposit.")
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To: Texas Fossil

It is worse than a travesty. There are some very real sinister forces trying to take us into anarchy and then communism and the MSM is riddled with these mind control agents. Many are not from the US. The communists know exactly what they are doing and it is for THEIR world order.


26 posted on 03/22/2012 5:35:40 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: marktwain

Thanks for your continuing follow-ups to this story.


28 posted on 03/22/2012 5:36:18 AM PDT by RabidBartender (The above statement is not meant to be offensive to women. Please don't whine and have me banned.)
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To: fabian

Bump


29 posted on 03/22/2012 5:37:05 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: patriot08

Bookmark for additional information Zimmerman vs Trayvon


30 posted on 03/22/2012 5:37:26 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: Mr. Quarterpanel
Zimmerman should never have engaged the youth. He was advised to not follow by the Dispatcher and wait for Police.

Get your facts straight.

Mr. Zimmerman did nothing unlawful by exiting his vehicle and following the suspicious person, who after starting toward him in what could be construed in an aggressive manner turned and started to run away. Furthermore the civilian dispatcher did NOT tell him to wait for police..in fact told Mr. Zimmerman the police would call him back upon their arrival to locate him after he affirmed to the dispatcher he was indeed following the suspect.

31 posted on 03/22/2012 5:51:22 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Sloth; All
None of those details have a bearing on who started the fight.

They have some bearing, because they indicate that Zimmerman was losing the fight. It is more likely for someone to be losing the fight if they were attacked by surprise.

More importantly, it shows how this story is being spun and important details that are being covered up by the MSM.

By reading the MSM articles, you would believe that Zimmerman chased down a little black boy, beat on him, and then shot him.

These details show that narrative to be very unlikely.

32 posted on 03/22/2012 5:56:17 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: Irenic

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33 posted on 03/22/2012 5:56:29 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: marktwain

>>By reading the MSM articles, you would believe that Zimmerman chased down a little black boy, beat on him, and then shot him.

>>These details show that narrative to be very unlikely.

Exactly, and worth saying again.


34 posted on 03/22/2012 6:05:38 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: marktwain
O course, we are being played like trout.

Because of political considerations, Zimmerman (who is an idiot ... and is definitely guilty of the heinous crime of politically incorrect remarks ... and is damn lucky HE ain't the dead guy) will be placed on trial. If he is found innocent, which is a pretty good bet based on the evidence seen so far, this will be the signal for the beginning of national riots.

After he is found innocent in the Florida Courts, or as might be more likely given the political circumstances, allowed to "cop a plea" to a much less serious offense, he will be tried and convicted in the Federal Courts for the Offense of "Denying Trayvon his Civil Rights," just as were the officers who saved Rodney King's life. (Even the ACLU initially found that a Constitutional violation!)

The Obama Election Machine was (and always is) absolutely ready and waiting for an inflammatory incident and now, by golly, they've gotten themselves a real doozy! Al? Al Sharpton? Why he's got himself a new and improved Tawana Brawley!

Riots. Lawsuits (The cops, Zimmerman, the city, the HOA: get ready). Rhetoric. Elections.

35 posted on 03/22/2012 6:07:46 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk ((So, you're telling me Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out this eligibility stuff?))
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To: marktwain
In Texas there is an exception to self defense called "provoking the difficulty." In a nutshell, you can't start a fight, realize you are losing it, shoot the the guy you attacked, then claim self defense. If Florida law is similar, Zimmerman is in a world of hurt.
36 posted on 03/22/2012 6:12:58 AM PDT by Pilsner
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To: marktwain

I would be fighting Zimmerman too if he was trying to kill me


37 posted on 03/22/2012 6:14:38 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Mr. Quarterpanel

yep. I agree


38 posted on 03/22/2012 6:16:31 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: mac_truck

Yes,Zimmerman did do something wrong. He engaged the kid. The popo told him not to. If Zimmerman was chasing me, and was confronting me for nothing, and had a gun and made threats with it, I would fight him too to save my own life. Zimmerman was a bully, plain and simple, many cops are too and hide behind the badge.


39 posted on 03/22/2012 6:19:05 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: vicar7

If one resides in a gated community the 911 operator is not your eyes and ears. They can suggest something to you, but it is your choice to follow. Please note, they are not sworn police officers and have no authority to tell you what to do in a volatile situation.


40 posted on 03/22/2012 6:19:05 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: marktwain

I’ve seen reports that Zimmerman is actually Hispanic. Does anyone know for sure?


41 posted on 03/22/2012 6:19:26 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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To: GOPJ

Yeah, but, right or wrong, Zimmerman was NOT supposed to be chasing or confronting the guy.

My primary issue with this whole is the crap being splashed on shall-issue CCW, castle doctrine, and “stand your ground.”

BTW: Did this Trayvon fellow have a prior record?


42 posted on 03/22/2012 6:23:26 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: marktwain

Remember one thing...in the Holder DOJ’s eyes, in any confrontation between Whites and Blacks, the Whites acted “stupidly”. It’s a rule, not a possibility.


43 posted on 03/22/2012 6:26:33 AM PDT by Fireone (Elect a patriot, elect Newt! (did I mention FUBO?))
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To: Arrowhead1952; All
I’ve seen reports that Zimmerman is actually Hispanic. Does anyone know for sure?

George Zimmerman's father says that George is Hispanic and comes from a mixed race family. He says the idea that George is racist is crazy.

44 posted on 03/22/2012 6:27:30 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

I see the usual race pimps are doing their best, which really means they are doing nothing to improve the image of Holder’s people. In fact, their race fueled reactions only advance the stereotype until one can only conclude the stereotype is true.

Nice job morons. Your phony president and his racist administration and you race pimps blew the best opportunity you will ever have to extinguish the few remaining embers of racial hatred. Instead you have daily practiced the politics of division & envy & blame and poured napalm on those embers.

You have proven what many of us have suspected for years and that the real racists in this country are Holder’s people and they use race as an excuse for their failure to be part of the American culture like so many other minorities have.


45 posted on 03/22/2012 6:29:53 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Welcome to the new USSA (United Socialist States of Amerika))
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To: marktwain

Didn’t the black kid have a right to fight back when being followed. He wasn’t doing anything illegal (as said by the police). In his mind he was just being followed by a guy. Who then got out of his car to continue to follow him. Florida law actually would cover the black kid more than it covers Zimmerman. If someone was following my wife like that and then got out of his car and started following her even more. I’d want her to fight back.


46 posted on 03/22/2012 6:34:32 AM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: yldstrk
If Zimmerman was chasing me, and was confronting me for nothing, and had a gun and made threats with it, I would fight him too to save my own life. Zimmerman was a bully, plain and simple, many cops are too and hide behind the badge.

A lot of "ifs" in your statement. There is quite a bit of difference between "chasing" and "following". There is no evidence that Zimmerman showed the gun to Martin before the altercation took place. There is no evidence that he made threats with it. The altercation took place less than 100 feet from where Trayvon Martin was staying. If he was afraid of Zimmerman, why didn't he just go inside?

47 posted on 03/22/2012 6:35:28 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: Wurlitzer
I see the usual race pimps are doing their best, which really means they are doing nothing to improve the image of Holder’s people. In fact, their race fueled reactions only advance the stereotype until one can only conclude the stereotype is true. Nice job morons. Your phony president and his racist administration and you race pimps blew the best opportunity you will ever have to extinguish the few remaining embers of racial hatred. Instead you have daily practiced the politics of division & envy & blame and poured napalm on those embers. You have proven what many of us have suspected for years and that the real racists in this country are Holder’s people and they use race as an excuse for their failure to be part of the American culture like so many other minorities have.

Thank you, Wurlitzer. That was excellently stated, and so very sad for our national unity. And I would like to add my sarcastic thanks to Obama, and all the other morons responsible for furthering division, and giving hatred the fertile ground to grow and prosper.
48 posted on 03/22/2012 6:37:45 AM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 ! We should take off and Newt washington from orbit.)
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To: Mr. Quarterpanel

Where you there? There was an investigation conducted, the DA’s office opined that it was a justifiable shooting of self-defense. Otherwise an arrest would have been made, a grand jury conducted and a true bill or not bill issued. “Indicted or Not Indicted.”

The perps side of the house, are unhappy the D.A.’s decision,so therefore the fanfare of racial unrest and turmoil of unacceptable justice begins.

One should never trespass through a gated community and further more, attack and armed law abiding citizen.

Mr Zimmerman, had every right in the world to follow this individual in his gated community. This is called crime prevention surveillance.

Unfortunately, the perp was shot as a consequence of his actions. One does not beat on an armed CCW citizen and expect to be rewarded.

Remember the perp brought all this on himself and had he “obeyed the law of not trespassing” this incident would not have occurred.

Treyvon is the one who placed himself in the situation and paid the piper for his disrespect for the law.

This is reality my friend and whether you agree or not that is the law. P.S. I thought in America Mr Zimmerman was “innocent till proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt??”


49 posted on 03/22/2012 6:38:29 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: marktwain
Some day soon, the state run media's agenda driven bias is going to get a lot of innocent people killed.

The State Run msm has mastered character assassination via lying by omission and Mr. Zimmerman's situation might be a test case for enterprising lawyers who would like to call them on this tactic.

They've chosen a story to tell and selectively ignored the inappropriate truths that disagree with their agenda. And once again the people's power of the press has been perverted into a weapon of manipulation and control.

We, the people, must take advantage of the legal tools available to prevent these propagandists from inciting the racial tensions they use to divide us.

Whether it's Occupy here or there or SEIU protests or something else, it's all about trying to "Recreate 68" in time for the 2012 elections.

If you don't have a crisis you can't let go to waste, make one. If it's an election season, make it a BIG one! (I wonder if the same idea holds true for those EOs obama signed)

50 posted on 03/22/2012 6:39:14 AM PDT by GBA (America has been infected. Be the cure!)
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