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The fear of martial law
Renew America ^ | 3/21/2012 | Alan Caruba

Posted on 03/22/2012 11:12:53 AM PDT by WPaCon

The President of the United States of America, Barack Hussein Obama, has generated so much fear that the most common theme of posted comments and private communications is that he will refuse to relinquish power if defeated in November or that, under some pretext, he will declare a state of martial law.

Many, myself included, did not like the Patriot Act that was enacted following 9/11 but there is little evidence that this law has been abused to deprive Americans of their fundamental rights and freedom, though surely some suspected of being terrorists were detained.

An Executive Order posted on the White House website on Friday, March 16, 2012, has generated a wave of fear. It is officially about "National Defense Resources Preparedness" and its stated policy addresses "national defense resource policies and programs under the Defense Production Act of 1950."

Its stated policy is that "The United States must have an industrial and technological base capable of meeting national defense requirements and capable of contributing to the technological superiority of its national defense equipment in peacetime and in times of national emergency." (Emphasis added)

In 1950 the nation was entering a new phase of history following World War II. It would be called the Cold War led by the then-Soviet Union, but 1950 is also important because on October 1, 1949, Mao Zedung had proclaimed the birth of the People's Republic of China, instituting a Communist regime that continues to this day. With German and Japanese totalitarian threats vanquished, new ones were emerging.

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KEYWORDS: executiveorder; martiallaw; ndrp; obamunism; thecomingdarkness
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Have any more mainstream sites mentioned the executive order in question?
1 posted on 03/22/2012 11:12:56 AM PDT by WPaCon
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To: WPaCon

Demoralization- http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_Iz3VjoHXLA


2 posted on 03/22/2012 11:16:16 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: WPaCon

Like martial law would work given the military’s almost universal disgust with the t*rd-in-chief.


3 posted on 03/22/2012 11:17:56 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: WPaCon

how many times have we heard this? I heard the dems say it about reagan, then the republicans say it about clinton, then the dems say it about GWB...
next thing we’ll be hearing the story about putting him on mt. rushmore, teh dollar bill, etc...


4 posted on 03/22/2012 11:18:58 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: WPaCon
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/03/22/vetting-obamas-political-tactics?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BigGovernment+%28Big+Government%29

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-what-president-obama-so-afraid

5 posted on 03/22/2012 11:23:28 AM PDT by Snoopers-868th
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To: WPaCon

He won’t declare martial law. He’ll declare sharia law.


6 posted on 03/22/2012 11:24:36 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing - Edmund Burke)
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To: WPaCon

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-what-president-obama-so-afraid


7 posted on 03/22/2012 11:26:06 AM PDT by Snoopers-868th
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To: camle

8 posted on 03/22/2012 11:27:13 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: WPaCon


9 posted on 03/22/2012 11:33:38 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: WPaCon

I may have missed it however, I cannot find the EO number or numbers...Just the lists but no actual Number in Obama’s list of his Executive Orders. Anyone?


10 posted on 03/22/2012 11:35:25 AM PDT by yoe
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To: camle

Methinks a lot of rhetoric flying is masochistic wishful thinking: a deep hope that great evil will befall the country, desired for the meaning, if not sheer entertainment value, of having something to struggle against. Every group not in power wishes the in-power opposition would do something horrible just to justify acting on the pent-up rage and punish/rectify imagined ills.

Indeed, I’ve been hearing “President X is going to impose martial law & cancel elections!” for several decades, regardless of party of those involved. BHO’s specialty is smoky backroom deals, not leading armies in total devotion to his cause. He may buy off the election, but he can’t cancel it.


11 posted on 03/22/2012 11:35:41 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: WPaCon

“...but there is little evidence that this law has been abused to deprive Americans of their fundamental rights and freedom...”

Say what? Large parts of the Patriot Act are used almost exclusively against ordinary American citizens, evading the very longstanding Bill of Rights rules. And when I say “almost exclusively”, this means that only a fraction of a percent of these rules have actually been used against terrorists and their supporters.

This comes about because large parts of the Patriot Act do not exclusively apply to just the federal government, but to state and even local governments as well. But in most of the US, there has never been even a hint of terrorism.

This impacts not just criminals and criminal suspects, but even honest citizens can be whimsically abused by police just in case they *might* do something that is unlawful, or even for no reason at all.

The entire purpose of the Bill of Rights is so that government cannot do that.


12 posted on 03/22/2012 11:37:59 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." -- Hillary Clinton)
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To: camle

Didn’t someone say it about George Washington? I cannot remember who, but I’m pretty sure someone did.


13 posted on 03/22/2012 11:39:05 AM PDT by WayneS (Comments now include 25% more sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: Da Coyote

Im not so sure Id jump to that conclusion. I think the military would follow his orders w/o question. Yes, there would be some refusal but that would be the exception and quashed quickly. History bears this out.


14 posted on 03/22/2012 11:40:18 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: WPaCon
I'm pretty sure he'd have trouble enslaving the requisite number of enforcers....
15 posted on 03/22/2012 11:40:59 AM PDT by G Larry (We are NOT obliged to carry the snake in our pocket and then dismiss the bites as natural behavior.)
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To: WPaCon
Have any more mainstream sites mentioned the executive order in question?

Any more? What mainstream media outlet has reported on it with any accuracy?

16 posted on 03/22/2012 11:42:46 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (I will not comply. I will NEVER submit.)
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To: 556x45

Nope...why do you suppose they work so hard to suppress the military vote?


17 posted on 03/22/2012 11:43:17 AM PDT by G Larry (We are NOT obliged to carry the snake in our pocket and then dismiss the bites as natural behavior.)
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To: WPaCon

The on going social disintegration of America is bound to be reflected in American political life. The fear of “The Divine One” attempting to remain in power by effecting a coup reflects the disintegration. Will a coup occur in the real world; i.e. November 2012 through January 2013? That is the specific question, and the mere fact the question can be asked is in itself rather ominous.


18 posted on 03/22/2012 11:44:02 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: yoe

This EO simply updates another EO (12919) that had been in place since June 1994, and amended several times since.

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/03/18/national-defense-resources-preparedness-executive-order-power-grab-or-update/


19 posted on 03/22/2012 11:44:45 AM PDT by Snoopers-868th
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To: Da Coyote

Yes I was really upset about it at first but upon reflection I’m getting a mental image of Barkey going on TV declaring martial law and everyone just ignores him. 50 sovereign states will probably just give him the finger.


20 posted on 03/22/2012 11:45:38 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: ctdonath2
So if he wins a 2nd term, will he try to stick around for a 3rd or 4th? I think so. He'll use the same jingoistic line the Dems have used since Al Gore: "Make every vote count!" "Follow the will of the People!" Just like Zeleya of Honduras. They are banking that the majority of the People don't know squat about the US Constitution, don't WANT to know, WON'T read it, and DON'T care what it says. After all, we now have sitting SCOTUS justices who think the Constitution is some old quaint piece of paper written by dead white men who couldn't possibly understand the modern world of women and non-whites.

Every group not in power wishes the in-power opposition would do something horrible just to justify acting on the pent-up rage and punish/rectify imagined ills.

You're right. The long story of humanity.

21 posted on 03/22/2012 11:46:30 AM PDT by Clock King (Ellisworth Toohey was right: My head's gonna explode.)
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To: yoe
Here is the actual text as posted...and still posted...on the WH website.
22 posted on 03/22/2012 11:50:20 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (I will not comply. I will NEVER submit.)
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To: camle

23 posted on 03/22/2012 11:51:00 AM PDT by sonofagun (Some think my cynicism grows with age. I like to think of it as wisdom!)
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To: ctdonath2

“Indeed, I’ve been hearing “President X is going to impose martial law & cancel elections!” for several decades”

BS. I sure as hell haven’t. This is the FIRST time in my lifetime I’ve heard this concern so frequently, so seriously.


24 posted on 03/22/2012 11:52:13 AM PDT by wolficatZ (:"TV is king, you're my everything..")
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To: WayneS

“Didn’t someone say it about George Washington? I cannot remember who, but I’m pretty sure someone”
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Seems to me....Washington (George, that is) barely got off his hoss, after the election, when he personally led two state militias in the field...to do what?...impose taxes for the new fed gunmint...in the territories..... where people didn’t have a vote...all hearsay, of course...and prolly one of them thar “conspiracy theories” we hear so much about...

Semper watching!
*****


25 posted on 03/22/2012 11:52:20 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: gunnyg

at least a good cause involve—whiskey—that time...

;)

Semper WTF!
*****


26 posted on 03/22/2012 11:55:16 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

I forgot to delete the word “more.”


27 posted on 03/22/2012 11:57:15 AM PDT by WPaCon
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To: Da Coyote
Eggsactly! I resent the "fear" label...I don't fear anything about Obozo; in fact, my guess is the reason the Obozos even dream up a law like this is their fear of US!!

Obozo knows that all over rural America the true Patriots are quietly cleaning and oiling their weapons.

28 posted on 03/22/2012 11:58:04 AM PDT by Cuttnhorse
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To: BenLurkin

I get it. Zero has stock in firearms companies. the tricky devil...


29 posted on 03/22/2012 11:58:13 AM PDT by Gasshog (going to get what all those libs asked for, but its not what they expected.)
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To: Puppage

30 posted on 03/22/2012 11:58:40 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: WayneS

“Didn’t someone say it about George Washington?”

Probably, and they were right. Not only did he invoke martial law, but he actually rode into the field as CIC.


31 posted on 03/22/2012 11:58:40 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: WPaCon
"Many, myself included, did not like the Patriot Act that was enacted following 9/11 but there is little evidence that this law has been abused to deprive Americans of their fundamental rights and freedom"

How would you know Alan? Under George W Dum-Dum (and now under his Communist successor), the range, scope and reach of the federal behemoth has expanded beyond any rational sense, the limited 'transparency' (I use that word loosely) under GWB is practically non-existent under the Kenyan Usurper, the fascist DHS and their jackboot sockpuppets over at TSA are turning America into a true police state, the Bill of Rights is on life support, financial chaos lurks behind the curtains due to the insane economic policies that were begun during the Bush years, and now continued and expanded under the 0bama regime.

And let's not forget the focused and determined efforts of the Holder DOJ to undermine the Second Amendment.

Why wouldn't there be a fear of martial law?
32 posted on 03/22/2012 11:59:12 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the Skidmark in the panties of American history, 0bama is the yellow stain in front!)
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To: G Larry

B/c they can.

There’s nothing sacrosanct about the military. They’re certainly not, as a group, any more noble than anyone else. When they get the order to fire on civilians, take their property etc they’ll do it. They might not like it but they’ll do it. Anyone thinking otherwise will have a rude and perhaps terminal eye opening.


33 posted on 03/22/2012 11:59:56 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: BerryDingle

LOL!


34 posted on 03/22/2012 12:00:30 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: WPaCon

Dictator Baby-Doc Barack is proving himself to be a blithering idiot.

Obama says what he thinks his audience wants to be true, and then expects us to believe his lie.


35 posted on 03/22/2012 12:03:28 PM PDT by Graewoulf (( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: 556x45

“I think the military would follow his orders w/o question.”

Very hard to say. Some in the military could get access to nukes or form an alliance with overseas purveyors of nukes. A mushroom cloud (or the threat of one) over DC would not be unthinkable in the event of an hussein dictatorship.

We have never really had a dictator in the US(unless you consider FDR a dictator), and it is difficult to predict how citizens or the military would react.


36 posted on 03/22/2012 12:04:56 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot.)
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To: WayneS

At least George Washingon couldn’t blame everything on the previous administration.


37 posted on 03/22/2012 12:07:05 PM PDT by GSWarrior (Some people tell me I worry too much.)
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To: 556x45

I’ve said the military will do what they are told many times only to be countered with no they won’t many are Oathkeepers. But, I wonder how many are Oathkeepers? Furthermore, the police are not for our protection their duty is to protect government.


38 posted on 03/22/2012 12:07:22 PM PDT by Snoopers-868th
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To: gunnyg
Whiskey Rebellion. George called out the militia. Congress passed a federal tax on whiskey. Backwoods sorts in Pennsylvania did not like it. Washington pardoned all involved in the rebellion that got nasty at times. He proved his point and did not feel the need, like Hamilton, to kill more people to make a point. Showed the feds had teeth unlike the Articles of Confederation that allowed Shays Rebellion. Shays was one reason for the convention being called. The feds. were useless in stopping Daniel Shays. It was applauded at the time but it did show the case the Anti-Federalists made against the feds.
39 posted on 03/22/2012 12:10:21 PM PDT by prof.h.mandingo (Buck v. Bell (1927) An idea whose time has come (for extreme liberalism))
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To: WPaCon
"The guy's an actor! He's reading a script! When they tell you not to panic... that's when you run."


40 posted on 03/22/2012 12:13:17 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: WPaCon

All those who don’t believe Martial Law can happen need to read about the Bonus Expeditionary Forces after WWI staring General MacArthur, George Patton and Dwight Eisenhower.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_Expeditionary_Force#U.S._Army_intervention


41 posted on 03/22/2012 12:19:38 PM PDT by Snoopers-868th
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To: wolficatZ

My observation is it has always been this frequent and serious this far ahead of a presidential election. Really.

The Obama doesn’t have the gravitas to pull it off.


42 posted on 03/22/2012 12:24:30 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: Snoopers-868th

Orders of magnitude between the aggressive removal of protestors vs. outright martial law.


43 posted on 03/22/2012 12:28:32 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: prof.h.mandingo

It wasn’t till the early 1850s, though—when all the commies who had escaped the hangman in 1848’s rebellion in Europe—had shown up in usa and began positioning themselves in the legislatures of canada and washington, eventually the Union army, etc.

Karl Marx had already been a writer for the NY Tribune w/Horace Greeley for 10 years, etc, etc...the writing was then on the wall for anyone w/a crystal ball...i.e., dishonest abe, etc.

Semper Watching!
*****


44 posted on 03/22/2012 12:34:31 PM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: ctdonath2

Maybe but these men were unemployed, hungry and only wanted what was promised to them. Their bonus. Instead they got charged with 6 tanks, bayonets, gassed and their shacks burned.

Think what it will be when there is no food on the shelves and high unemployment all across the nation, not just in DC. The race riots will look like a walk in the park.


45 posted on 03/22/2012 12:39:45 PM PDT by Snoopers-868th
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To: grumpygresh

Its all about perception and deception. If Barry can make a martial law scenario look like what it really is then theres no question the military will follow along. Yes, he’ll be a dictator at the point but not in those words. If he can pull off a soft coup then the deception is complete. As I said, there will be some few who refuse but you and I will never know it. Most in the military will go along for various reasons but go along they will.


46 posted on 03/22/2012 12:43:44 PM PDT by 556x45
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To: Snoopers-868th

I think you see it clearly. The police will be esp bad. Right now they must keep their corruption in the dark. When Constitutional protections evaporate there’s nothing to stop them being the worthless criminals they are. Those in the military will follow suit not wanting to be left out.


47 posted on 03/22/2012 12:49:12 PM PDT by 556x45
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To: Snoopers-868th

“All those who don’t believe Martial Law can happen need to read about the Bonus Expeditionary Forces after WWI staring General MacArthur, George Patton and Dwight Eisenhower.”
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Yeh, or, depending on yer motivation/lack thereof, maybe the alternate Athens,Tenn 1946 version...

;)
Semper watching!
*****


48 posted on 03/22/2012 12:55:14 PM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: ctdonath2
Every group not in power wishes the in-power opposition would do something horrible just to justify acting on the pent-up rage and punish/rectify imagined ills.
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I believe there is truth in your statement above. We have a deep divide in the U.S. between the philosophies of the right and left. It is like a boil that has been festering for a long time. Some in this nation, on both the right and the left, would like it lanced.

I disagree, though, with your statement that the “ills” are “imagined”. When nearly 50% or more of one’s income is confiscated in taxes, when one is forced to support programs that deeply violate one’s religious conscience, and when one must lick the boots of numberless petty bureaucrats just to open a lemon aide stand, these offenses are not “imagined”.

49 posted on 03/22/2012 1:03:43 PM PDT by wintertime (Reforming a government K-12 school is like reforming an abortion center.)
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To: 556x45; All

I agree. If it gets that bad it will mean a serious SHTF senario has happened. Food and water will be scarce but our military is well prepped with both. Our soldiers will do what they are ordered to to stay alive via that food and water being provided them. Then, after 95% of the American population dies off in the first six months or so, due to any number of reasons, lack of water/food being number one, it is simple mop up time for the troops. It will not matter how many firearms have been sold recently or how many are in private hands. Dead men can’t shoot anything. This is the way I see it going. Flame away all, I have my 2012 Mayan calender asbestos suit on tight!


50 posted on 03/22/2012 1:09:59 PM PDT by bobby.223 (Retired high up in the mountains of the American Redoubt and it doesn't get any better than that!)
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