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California ballot initiative would make college free for residents
Oakland Tribune ^ | 3/22/12 | Katy Murphy

Posted on 03/22/2012 4:43:26 PM PDT by SmithL

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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Because of the high qualify of education we have here - they can’t add up the budget versus the expenses and figure out that they’re trying to get blood out of a stone! On the other hand - in true DEMOCRATIC fashion, CA will vote itself yet another freebee - and continue down the bankruptcy path.


21 posted on 03/22/2012 5:23:45 PM PDT by fremont_steve
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To: SmithL

I can just imagine what tuition will be 5 years after this passes. Double? Triple? And of course, the tax will then have to be increased.


22 posted on 03/22/2012 5:26:55 PM PDT by jeffc (Prayer. It's freedom of speech.)
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To: SmithL

Californians are pretty politically stupid people, so this kind of thing is probably pretty appealing to many of them.

If I lived there I think it would be fun to start a ballot initiative that constitutionally required the state of California to send “the 99%” one million dollars per year on tax day. It would be hilarious to see if enough Californians exist right now to pass such an absurd idea. I think there might be.

Seriously, anyone living in CA should move out. The place is a lost cause. We could really use good conservatives in other places to help bolster our numbers in increasingly purple states like VA, NC, CO, etc.


23 posted on 03/22/2012 5:27:52 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: dsrtsage
Sweet, when the tuition is free, the university will be able to charge even more

No, no, they won't charge more, it's going to be free. Wait sorry..... esta gratis amigo. /s

24 posted on 03/22/2012 5:28:59 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: Vision

and all the staff at these Colleges will work for free ?


25 posted on 03/22/2012 5:33:35 PM PDT by molson209
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To: SmithL

Wow, this would add $500 a year to property taxes and lord knows what to sales taxes.


26 posted on 03/22/2012 5:33:52 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: SmithL
Free college tuition in California this is GREAT!!!!

I will send my kid to UCLA for his first year of College and pay the out of state tuition.

By the second year he will be eligible for state residency and he can get free in state tuition.

If out of state tuition is too expensive I can just send him there to live for a year. He can just live and work for a year. Then get residency and go to school for FREE.

If they actually pass such a law that is exactly what would happen for millions of high school graduates. I guarantee it.

27 posted on 03/22/2012 5:33:52 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: SmithL

I hope this passes. Throw in free gasoline for the commute also. It would be a great exclamation mark to the pathetic state of CA


28 posted on 03/22/2012 5:34:34 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: SmithL

Let’s have free profs at Berkeley. If students can go free, then why not the rest of them?


29 posted on 03/22/2012 5:37:46 PM PDT by spintreebob
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To: molson209

They can just raise taxes on business and any working Californian.


30 posted on 03/22/2012 5:38:31 PM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: Pontiac
I can just send him there to live for a year. He can just live and work for a year.

Oh, I shouldn't count on that. There won't be any businesses left to work for. And competition for government jobs will be intense. And, by the way, does he speak Spanish?

31 posted on 03/22/2012 5:49:33 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: SmithL

What happens if all the folks making 250,000+ a year move out of California?

Did they bother to think of that?

So who do they figure pays if that happens?


32 posted on 03/22/2012 5:51:40 PM PDT by dforest
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To: SmithL; Revolting cat!

Welfare for college profs.


33 posted on 03/22/2012 5:54:39 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Barack Obama continued to sponsor Jeremiah Wright after he said "G.D. AMERIKKA!"Where's the outrage?)
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Well he does have 4 years of high school Spanish.

And my kid can work under the table as good as any illegal. He has no pride.

34 posted on 03/22/2012 6:04:39 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: dforest
So who do they figure pays if that happens?

Why, the whole community will come together and put on a show. They'll make their own costumes, play their own instruments, write their own script, take it to the Hollywood Bowl...and have a giant hit on their hands.

The proceeds will pay for college tuition for everybody. There will even be collateral benefit, proving that they can do anything if they only cooperate -- so that everybody, of all races and classes, learns to love each other.

Failing that, there's always unicorns pooping gold pieces...

35 posted on 03/22/2012 6:09:35 PM PDT by okie01
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It is probably more likely that unicorns will have to poop gold pieces. LOL


36 posted on 03/22/2012 6:13:35 PM PDT by dforest
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To: SmithL

As long as the federal taxpayer doesn’t have to pay for it, I say “Knock yourself out.”


37 posted on 03/22/2012 6:28:43 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: dforest

lots of small business will close


38 posted on 03/22/2012 7:05:35 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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39 posted on 03/22/2012 7:14:55 PM PDT by tomkat (FU.baraq)
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To: jeffc

The text for initiative actually says that eventually they will to make cuts or find another revenue source.

“Summary of estimate by
Legislative Analyst and Director of Finance of fiscal impact on state and local government:
Annual loss of state tuition revenue of about $2.8 billion per year beginning in 2013-14, backfilled
by additional state personal income tax revenue that is likely to total $2 billion or more per year.
Potential shortfalls in university resources in some fiscal years would have to be addressed
through some combination of cost reductions and alternative funding sources, which could create
pressure on the state General Fund. (11-0086)”

http://collegeforcalifornia.org/Home/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Text-of-Initiative.pdf

http://collegeforcalifornia.org/Home/the-initiative/


40 posted on 03/22/2012 7:19:23 PM PDT by funfan
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