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Hoard of 30,000 silver Roman coins discovered in Bath
The Telegraph [UK] ^ | March 22, 2012 | Andrew Hough

Posted on 03/22/2012 6:37:19 PM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands

More than 30,000 silver coins have been found by archaeologists working at the site of a new city-centre hotel.

The hoard, believed to date from the third-century, was unearthed about 450 feet from the historic Roman Baths.

Experts believe the “treasure trove” is the fifth largest hoard ever discovered in Britain and the largest from a Roman settlement.

The coins, which have now been sent to the British Museum for further analysis, are fused together in a large block.

This makes identification and counting difficult and conservators at central London Museum expect the task of analysing the coins to take up to 12 months.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: archaeology; epigraphyandlanguage; godsgravesglyphs; romanempire; unitedkingdom
Interesting. But I had one minor problem with the article. It says that the coins were silver, and were believed to date from about 270 A.D. It is perhaps a minor point, but by 270 the vast majority of Roman coins were cast in bronze, not silver. The antoninianus, which replaced the denarius in the early third century, began to be debased in its silver content until, by 270 A.D., it was a bronze coin with a thin silver wash. The coins from 210 to mid-century, even in the late 240's and early 250's A.D. (under Trajan Decius) would appear to be decent silver, but by the mid 260's (under Gallienus) even the facade of it being primarily silver had disappeared except for the silver wash bestowed on the bronze coins.

It should also be noted that the picture in the article is not of the recent find, but of an earlier find.

1 posted on 03/22/2012 6:37:22 PM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands
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To: SunkenCiv

ping.


2 posted on 03/22/2012 6:41:39 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

I find it alarming that the evolution of the construction of our coinage is similar to what was experienced by the deteriorating Roman Empire.


3 posted on 03/22/2012 6:45:29 PM PDT by chopperman
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Well then, thanks for the excellent analysis. I will come back later to see if anything else was added.

About 20 years ago I found an early 1900's Canadian silver dime in a foot of water in the Severn River here in Maryland. I was using a Whites metal detector. IIRC the dime was encrusted in black crust which chipped away easily. I couldn't tell you where it is now.

4 posted on 03/22/2012 6:53:18 PM PDT by BreezyDog (PLAN A: A Peaceful Restoration of the Republic.....PLAN B: A Restoration of the Republic)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

Roman Britain, or Brittania, is one of my favorite historical periods at the moment..


5 posted on 03/22/2012 6:53:20 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Bolton/Arpaio 2012 "Kick the UN across the border!")
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victorinus

From that short period where the Gallic Empire had split off from Rome during the crisis of the 3rd century.


6 posted on 03/22/2012 6:54:31 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands
The antoninianus, which replaced the denarius in the early third century, began to be debased in its silver content until, by 270 A.D., it was a bronze coin with a thin silver wash.

Like the US quarter in AD 1965, only the 'silver wash' was layers of cupro-nickel over copper.

Other parallels exist between us and Rome.

7 posted on 03/22/2012 6:57:26 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

That must have been a big tub for all those coins to have been missed for so long.


8 posted on 03/22/2012 7:00:55 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: chopperman

My thought too.


9 posted on 03/22/2012 7:07:45 PM PDT by Conservative4Ever (Waiting for the new tagline to download)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands
Learned all that in 8th grade history class, eh?

;)

10 posted on 03/22/2012 7:19:16 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("And the public gets what the public wants" -- The Jam)
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Learned all that in 8th grade history class, eh?

Nah. I've done got me some book learning and ciphering and stuff since then.

Plus, I collect ancient coins. That, and having taught ancient church history in college for several years some time back (a good bit closer to Roman times than now) helps. :-)
11 posted on 03/22/2012 7:30:02 PM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands (Mitt Romney is a handbasket driver. I refuse to ride.)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

Great post...you never know who you will meet on FR, or what knowledge they have.


12 posted on 03/22/2012 7:37:34 PM PDT by rlmorel (A knife in the chest from a unapologetic liberal is preferable to a knife in the back from a RINO.)
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To: rlmorel

Thanks for your kind words.


13 posted on 03/22/2012 7:42:04 PM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands (Mitt Romney is a handbasket driver. I refuse to ride.)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

30,000 Roman pieces of silver. Enough to pay Judas 1000
times.


14 posted on 03/22/2012 7:56:34 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: Army Air Corps; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks Army Air Corps.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


15 posted on 03/22/2012 7:56:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him)
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To: chopperman

“I find it alarming that the evolution of the construction of our coinage is similar to what was experienced by the deteriorating Roman Empire.”

How about the increasing number of non-Romans that made up the empire?


16 posted on 03/22/2012 8:29:33 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: cardinal4

In my town many Scots still pride themselves on the fact that Rome never successfully invaded Scotland. While the same holds true for Ireland, I honestly admit that there wasn’t the concerted effort that was made against Scotland.

The most interesting part was the unraveling, as they pulled out to deal with more immediate threats.


17 posted on 03/22/2012 8:35:48 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands
Wonder who left the coins buried there? Why didn't they spend them?

Reminds me of the film The Eagle about the Romans in England.


18 posted on 03/22/2012 8:58:35 PM PDT by garjog
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

“...Roman coins discovered in Bath”

Lucky guy.

All I ever find is hair in the drain.


19 posted on 03/22/2012 9:19:05 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: kearnyirish2

Nah, that could never happen here.


20 posted on 03/22/2012 9:33:40 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

Seems like a regular occurrence in the UK. Sink a spade anywhere there and ur likely to find something. What an incredible country. Of course I make no excuses, I am an incurable Anglophile.


21 posted on 03/22/2012 10:10:55 PM PDT by strongbow
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

“the Roman Baths and Pump Room,”

First thought upon reading that was Zero and Rahm’s lifetime membership to the Man’s Country bathhouse in Chicago.


22 posted on 03/23/2012 4:27:21 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

——it was a bronze coin with a thin silver wash.——

and there you have it, the key to the mystery.

Silver does not corrode and thus would not stick together, however bronze under worn silverplate will. The mass of bronze corroded to stick the coins into a mass.

My take after not having seen the mass


23 posted on 03/23/2012 4:42:05 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

Maybe you know my husband. He’s going to Cambridge next weekend to deliver a paper on sceattas. Hopes to make a quick trip to Bath on Friday to visit what I call a “coin guy”.


24 posted on 03/23/2012 6:43:10 AM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of kittens modifying your posts.)
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To: garjog

Is “The Eagle” historically accurate, in your opinion, or Hollyweird? I view very few movies because of the junk they put out, but I like historical fiction. Would you recommend this film?


25 posted on 03/23/2012 10:06:03 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Wish I could find 30,000 silver coins in my bath.....


26 posted on 03/23/2012 5:23:18 PM PDT by stockpirate (Romney, Ann Coulter & our ruling republican SOCIALISTelites, are Big Government socialists,)
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To: Bigg Red

“Is “The Eagle” historically accurate, ...I like historical fiction. Would you recommend this film?”

Oh, yes. I would give this film 4 stars out of 5. As I understand, it is based on historical truth that the Roman Army lost the Eagle Standard and eventually got it back.

The main character I think is made up.

But, the acting and set is really quite good. Very entertaining and keeps your attention throughout. One of my favorites of recent years.

http://www.blinkx.com/watch-video/the-eagle-featurette/EmbjYgr74_qc4IRH6p8GUA


27 posted on 03/24/2012 9:06:55 PM PDT by garjog
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To: garjog

Thanks for the description of “The Eagle”. Will have to look for it in the Redbox machine.


28 posted on 03/26/2012 6:03:32 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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