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Shocker: As Governor, Romney was fine with high gas prices
The Right Scoop ^ | March 22, 2012

Posted on 03/22/2012 7:07:28 PM PDT by Southnsoul

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As Governor of Massachusetts, Mitt Romney apparently wasn’t all that concerned about rising gas prices. In fact, he viewed them as a net positive that would encourage conservation and get people to abandon their automobiles in favor of biking or walking. Naturally, he was also on the climate change bandwagon and he even predicted in 2005 that so-called clean energy was poised for “explosive growth” over the next decade.

Today of course he is all about drilling, which is a good thing.

But the question is: Are there any issues left out there on which Romney has not yet flip-flopped?

Alec MacGinnis writes in the New Republic:

(Excerpt) Read more at therightscoop.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: badgovromney; energy; gasoline; lie4theromney; lielie4romney; loserromney; oil; romney
There's not a snowball's chance in a microwave that I would vote for Mitt Romney... ever.

Alec MacGinnis' article is at the link.

1 posted on 03/22/2012 7:07:37 PM PDT by Southnsoul
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To: Southnsoul

that is why I am of the belief that there will be a ‘brokered convention’. We do NOT have a conservative candidate here.


2 posted on 03/22/2012 7:10:43 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: Southnsoul

Mittens? No way..no how..Just NO!


3 posted on 03/22/2012 7:10:43 PM PDT by PeachyKeen
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To: Southnsoul

This “shakes” my confidence in the man.


4 posted on 03/22/2012 7:10:43 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Southnsoul
Today of course he is all about drilling, which is a good thing.

That's where the Etch-a-Sketch comes in.

5 posted on 03/22/2012 7:15:37 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: Southnsoul
Romney: The best way the GOP has to guarantee four more years of Obamanomics
6 posted on 03/22/2012 7:21:40 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini--nevertheless, Vote Santorum!)
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To: PeachyKeen

The only difference between Obama and Mittens is, well, nothing. Mittens might, just might resend some of Obama’s EO’s ... but he would surely replace them with his own versions of the same things.


7 posted on 03/22/2012 7:23:43 PM PDT by doc1019 (Romney will never get my vote!)
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To: lightman

“Romney: The best way the GOP has to guarantee four more years of Obamanomics”

Perfect!!! Excellent!!!


8 posted on 03/22/2012 7:27:24 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: Southnsoul

I will vote for the nominee, even if he is Romney.

He certainly would not be my choice. However, the thought of Obama for for more years is to frightening to contemplate. I think he is a serious threat to our very way of life. He hates what I think makes this country great. He is trying to destroy this country and incite hatred at every level. His Supreme Court nominees are equally dangerous. The thought of him naming another one or two is unimaginable. He will construct a SC majority that will write law. I can’t stand by and watch it.


9 posted on 03/22/2012 7:29:35 PM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

He's the Dems' dream come true.

Rom-wv
Weather Vane Romney

10 posted on 03/22/2012 7:30:35 PM PDT by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: doc1019

The only reason Romneycare is only a state level program is because that was the extent of Romney’s power as a governor. Don’t buy his 10th amendment BS. That’s just a convenient excuse his campaign came up with to spin his flavor of socialized medicine to conservatives. He could care less about states rights other than the fact that it is the issue du jour.


11 posted on 03/22/2012 7:33:57 PM PDT by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: doc1019
The only difference between Obama and Mittens is, well, nothing.

They are two buses going in the same direction. But, one bus 10 city blocks ahead of the other bus. Some will gladly board the Romney bus thinking they're doing well not being on the bus far ahead. Seemingly too few are looking for the bus going in the opposite direction.

12 posted on 03/22/2012 7:37:07 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood)
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To: LeonardFMason; All
I agree with you.

I do not want Romney, but an Obama win means more than just Obama policy for another 4 years.

An Obama win will be seen as a vote for SOCIALISM!
Most of the public is not as informed we are, on FR.
Most of the world is not informed at all.

If Romney is the nominee, I see no choice but to vote for Romney, though I do hope we get a better outcome, at the convention. If we do not beat Obama, America WILL be a Socialist country, there is no getting around that fact.

Another thing? There is a very good chance of a Republican Senate, and a few more Republicans, in the House.

Romney will have trouble “etching and sketching” with a Republican Congress. He HAS to be better than Obama.

13 posted on 03/22/2012 7:39:20 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: vmivol00

“He could care less about states rights”

He may pretend to support the 10th ammendment. Fools believe that crap.


14 posted on 03/22/2012 7:44:49 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: Kansas58

“Romney will have trouble “etching and sketching” with a Republican Congress.”

Oh, you mean the same Republican Congress that was too weak to take a Democrat president to task on the debt ceiling? Yeah, they’ll -really- go after one of their own.

“He HAS to be better than Obama.”

How? Romney’s positions are perfectly aligned with the Obama agenda. I’ve posted them so many times on here that I’ve gotten sick of it.


15 posted on 03/22/2012 7:49:35 PM PDT by Cato in PA (1/26/12: Bloody Thursday)
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To: Southnsoul

I don’t Mitt has ever flip flopped, I think its all pretend.

I think he still the same pro-gay, pr-abortion, anti-gun liberal he always was.


16 posted on 03/22/2012 7:51:27 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Kansas58

“He HAS to be better than Obama.”

A Romney win is not better than Obama.

What difference does it make?


17 posted on 03/22/2012 7:52:11 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: LeonardFMason

Mittens has a habit of appointing leftists to the courts too.


18 posted on 03/22/2012 7:54:21 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: LeonardFMason

No me. I’m sick of being the GOP yes girl. They treat us like dirt and expect us to get in line and vote for someone we know is a mini-marxist. I’ll vote third party or write in a candidate. NO ROMNEY, NO WAY.


19 posted on 03/22/2012 7:54:43 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Only God can change a heart, but we can pray for hearts to be changed)
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To: Carthego delenda est
An Obama win says that the country supports Socialism.

An Obama win will be a disaster, on all fronts.

20 posted on 03/22/2012 7:55:28 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58
An Obama win says that the country supports Socialism.

A Romney win means not only that the country supports Socialism, but that both major political parties support socialism.

21 posted on 03/22/2012 7:56:25 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Kansas58

The Problem as I see it with Romney is that he will be such a mediocre President that even if he does win he will be so middle of the road as to “not upset the apple cart” that the economy will not bloom and then in 4 years it will assure that the democrats take back power on the whole meme that the “economy didn’t recover”.

Not to mention any GOP president is going to be so damned hated no matter how “moderate” they are. Mittens will get so damned gun shy that he will be ineffective and the MSM and the Democrat controlled media will smell blood and keep attacking him even as he retreats and this will paralyze him to what needs to be done to restore the economy and defuse all of Obama’s horrible regulatory actions.

Newt is going to be hated like hell anyways and HE KNOWS THAT, but he also knows that he will have the people who put him there behind even if the Media doesn’t paint it that way every night at 5:00pm.

So therefore, Newt (who thrives on antagonism instead of flinching from it) will take the bold measures to recover the economy despite being thrashed every night on the MSM news channels. In Four years the MSM will be flabbergasted like their were on election night in 1984, because the man on the street will notice the economy improvement.

Mitt is a Flincher, Newt is a Clincher

Definition of a Clincher:

a decisive fact, argument, act, or remark

Definition of a Flincher:

to withdraw or shrink from or as if from pain

We are so SOL if Either Mittens gets in or Barry gets a second term.

Mittens would only slow things down and then in four years the GOP would be blamed so much but with little to show we would still be in an economic malaise the likes of Carter’s worst dreams. This would GUARANTEE a Democrat Victory over the house the senate and even the presidency in 2016. They would not be pulling any punches as they would run someone that would make Obama look like a middle of the road moderate. Because they know they would have a very good chance of winning. Not to mention the class warfare game that could be played to Bolshevik conclusion during that election if we get Romney and mediocre performance out of him which is very much likely.

Of course Obama winning would be a very much “nothing to lose” second term that would see him likely either completely destroying the economy so badly that they play the game of “Destroy and Support” in that they would destroy the economy and then support the people as the “great savior” thus ensuring either “Glorious Revolution” or the mass construction project of making millions more so dependent that they will have a permanent grip on power that would only come undone with Blood sweat and tears, but mostly Blood and Tears.

ABO and ABR, because we really need Newt or maybe Santorum if we get desperate, heck I would even take, heaven forbid (I can’t believe I am saying this), Ron Paul over Romney for the reasons above.

So I repeat once more: Newt is the Clincher, and Mitt is the Flincher.


22 posted on 03/22/2012 7:56:37 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: LeonardFMason

You do understand that if Romney becomes the nominee he will swing to the left of Obama and you will never see his liberal butt again don’t you?


23 posted on 03/22/2012 8:01:07 PM PDT by Eaker (Remember, the enemy tends to wise up at the least convenient moments.)
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To: dfwgator

“An Obama win says that the country supports Socialism.”

“A Romney win means not only that the country supports Socialism, but that both major political parties support socialism.”

Yes.


24 posted on 03/22/2012 8:03:03 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: Kansas58

I choose to not vote for empty suit politicians with records that support gun control, socialized healthcare, Planned Parenthood, global warming, cap & trade, suppression of religious freedoms, higher gas prices, govt. bailouts, class warfare, liberal judges, and the status quo on the broken tax system. Unfortunately that eliminates both Zero and Romney.

I’d rather vote 3rd party than be complicit in what Obama and Obama-light want to do to this country.

Furthermore I think the GOP losership will mindlessly embrace the drivel that comes from RINOmny (which will be the same as Zero’s). That will lead to an even faster decay of the country. With a split govt., there is a chance the GOP losership can use the one testicle that they share to oppose the same stuff from Zero due to partisanship.


25 posted on 03/22/2012 8:04:24 PM PDT by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: Cato in PA
Do you really think that Romney will be worse than Obama on every issue?
There is NO CHANCE that gun control will be enacted, by a Republican Congress.
Romney will be MUCH better with Israel.
Romney will be MUCH better with Iran.
I doubt the Romney will double cross us, on the prolife issue, he will certainly support the “Conscience Clause” and the Hyde Amendment.

Folks, we will not have the votes to override a Veto, if Obama wins.

Obamacare is ALREADY law, and if SCOTUS does not strike down Obamacare, we are stuck with it.

I would much prefer Gingrich or Santorum -—

But it is irresponsible and suicidal to do anything which might give Obama 4 more years.

We are STUCK with Obamacare if Obama wins.

And yes, the economy maters,. We can't fight for the prolife cause, the 2nd Amendment cause, our 1st Amendment rights or anything else, very effectively, if Obama is allowed to put us all on the dole.

26 posted on 03/22/2012 8:05:38 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Southnsoul
Romney blows all the way around.


27 posted on 03/22/2012 8:07:46 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Cato in PA
Do you really think that Romney will be worse than Obama on every issue?
There is NO CHANCE that gun control will be enacted, by a Republican Congress.
Romney will be MUCH better with Israel.
Romney will be MUCH better with Iran.
I doubt the Romney will double cross us, on the prolife issue, he will certainly support the “Conscience Clause” and the Hyde Amendment.

Folks, we will not have the votes to override a Veto, if Obama wins.

Obamacare is ALREADY law, and if SCOTUS does not strike down Obamacare, we are stuck with it.

I would much prefer Gingrich or Santorum -—

But it is irresponsible and suicidal to do anything which might give Obama 4 more years.

We are STUCK with Obamacare if Obama wins.

And yes, the economy mstters,. We can't fight for the prolife cause, the 2nd Amendment cause, our 1st Amendment rights or anything else, very effectively, if Obama is allowed to put us all on the dole.

28 posted on 03/22/2012 8:09:23 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: GraceG

Yeah, when he cuddled up to Nancy Pelosi on that couch, he looked like he was clinching her.


29 posted on 03/22/2012 8:20:53 PM PDT by NavVet ("You Lie!")
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To: vmivol00
Well, to put it as bluntly as I know how:

A Nuclear War pretty much makes all of our other issues seem pointless and small.

A Nuclear Weapon in the hands of terrorists will be a disaster.

Another financial melt down will be hard on the conservative cause, as it will increase the dependency level and grow the welfare state, and put us on the verger of complete societal collapse and fighting in the streets.

Romney is a liberal Republican, no doubt, but I believe that the guy is realistic about radical Islam, and that the guy has a survival instinct that Obama does not have, where our Country is concerned.

30 posted on 03/22/2012 8:25:47 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58
I doubt the Romney will double cross us, on the prolife issue, he will certainly support the “Conscience Clause” and the Hyde Amendment.

Hope you're right. But I, for one, fully expect Romney to double-cross us on the Obamacare issue.

Yes, Romney's romised to repeal Obamacare -- but sometimes with weasel words. I smell something like an immediate eecutive order to "suspend" implementation of Obamacare -- and a simultaneous request to Congress to "fix" the "problems" and make the plan "work".

At bottom, the problem is tht Romney is not trustworthy. And he is not ommitted to any conservative goals -- largely because he doesn't understand them any better than GHWB did.

31 posted on 03/22/2012 8:27:02 PM PDT by okie01
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To: okie01
Well, Obama DOES understand and Obama does ENTHUSIASTICALLY SUPPORT Socialism.

That is the problem.

32 posted on 03/22/2012 8:31:49 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: okie01

Do you really think that we can continue health care in the present direction? I saw a study that showed that health care would consume 100% of the GDP in my lifetime (well, maybe) at this rate. The status quo is not an option.

A Republican whose only offer is to “repeal Obamacare” with no other ideas will lose on that issue.


33 posted on 03/22/2012 8:51:32 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Southnsoul
Just to show what an evil environmentalist Romney is:

Romney and Foy also proposed slashing the number of SUVs in the state vehicle fleet. As one administration veteran told me this week: “It was helpful to have gas prices high when we were there because it led [Romney] to think that efficiency was sensible...

Can you imagine? He wanted state vehicles to be efficient!!!

Better four more years of Obama than this tyranny!!!

34 posted on 03/22/2012 8:53:54 PM PDT by tsomer
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To: tsomer
Can you imagine? He wanted state vehicles to be efficient!!!

What a shocker!

35 posted on 03/22/2012 9:00:43 PM PDT by Misterioso ( The difference between stupidity and intelligence is that intelligence has its limits)
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To: okie01

I’d take GHWB in a heartbeat over Obama. He was not a bad president.


36 posted on 03/22/2012 9:48:47 PM PDT by mimaw
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To: Southnsoul

No surprise — he’s a liberal.


37 posted on 03/22/2012 10:11:45 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Kansas58

Romney is FOR ObamaCARE,

but he is FOR ... well, Romney.


38 posted on 03/23/2012 3:39:00 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Eaker

Left of Obama!? Not possible. I like my chances of controlling a squishy Romney with bolstered numbers in the House and by winning the Senate. He will not get a Souter through 40 conservative Senators.


39 posted on 03/23/2012 6:25:08 AM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: Linda Frances

If you don’t vote for a candidate who has a chance of winning, you will help Obama be re-elected. Get real.


40 posted on 03/23/2012 6:28:17 AM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: GeronL

I will hold the Senate responsible if Romney put a liberal up for nomination and it went thru.


41 posted on 03/23/2012 6:30:37 AM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: LeonardFMason

Of course it would go through. The Dem-RINO coalition will prevail in that case.


42 posted on 03/23/2012 6:31:59 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: LeonardFMason

-—Left of Obama!? Not possible. I like my chances of controlling a squishy Romney with bolstered numbers in the House and by winning the Senate. He will not get a Souter through 40 conservative Senators.——

We’re all angry that a conservative won’t receive the Republican nomination for the umpteenth time.

And Romney sucks. There’s no doubt about it. But that makes him a thousand times better than the Marxist stooge.

He’s unprincipled, but we can use him, just as much as he uses us, if we work hard enough.


43 posted on 03/23/2012 6:34:46 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: Southnsoul; All
But the question is: Are there any issues left out there on which Romney has not yet flip-flopped?

Which is at the heart of the problem. There is no there there. What is at his core, his entomological and epistemological base?

If you go back to Bain Capital, he is the quintessential Yuppie Take Over artist, it is all about the deal.

In another life in a career I won't disclose, I got to see his type in full bloom, and it is why my hackles have been up for a long time, I didn't like and trust them and by extension I don't trust Mitt.

They only saving grace is Ann Romney will make a helluva better 1st lady than eat what I say Moochelle.

If that is what the EGOP is handing us that is pretty thin flippin gruel to hang the future of the Republic on...

44 posted on 03/23/2012 6:49:16 AM PDT by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: LeonardFMason

If you actually believe anything that you posted then we are through with this conversation.

Some people believe in the Etch-A-Sketch Romney. I don’t.


45 posted on 03/23/2012 7:06:30 AM PDT by Eaker (Remember, the enemy tends to wise up at the least convenient moments.)
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To: The Antiyuppie
A Republican whose only offer is to “repeal Obamacare” with no other ideas will lose on that issue.

Do you understand that the biggest driver of escalating costs in healthcare is government involvement?

Government "solutions" and regulations are what drive up the cost of health care.

Reduce the role of government in healthcare...and costs will stabilize, then decline.

A Republican administration should be able to start moving the ball in the right direction.

46 posted on 03/23/2012 3:35:23 PM PDT by okie01
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