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1 posted on 03/22/2012 9:03:26 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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I think maybe Allen West has not been completely briefed on all of the circumstances of the event. There is a good self defense case with eye witnesses and a 911 call with Zimmerman screaming help. He’s not an appealing guy but there is probably not a case agains’t him or the cops would already have arrested him.


74 posted on 03/22/2012 10:03:05 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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Too bad. I think Congressman West is responding to the media coverage and the emotion of the moment.


79 posted on 03/22/2012 10:08:10 PM PDT by M1911A1
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Guys I was a cop for 20 years. I worked in DC. What’s happening in this case is LIB 101.

One of our white officers would respond to a “shots fired” call. They arrive, see black guy with gun, order black guy to drop gun, black guy raises gun, white cop shoots.

Next day, front page of the Washington Post:

“17 Year Old Aspiring Poet Gunned Down by Police”
— “Was star player on HS Football Team”
— “Was trying to turn life around”
— “Wanted to be a good father to his new baby”

— “Mom says he was a ‘good boy’ who had a ‘contagious smile’

— “White officer had been disciplined before”

This is exactly what’s happening here, but with more widespread success. The libmedia has found itself a White Devil to persecute, and it’s gone viral.

People shoot people every day. Blacks shoot whites. Blacks shoot blacks. Whites shoot blacks. Adults shoot kids. Kids shoot adults. Sounds like Dr. Seuss.

EVERYTHING THE MEDIA SAYS IN THIS CASE should be examined with a microscope. Every word choice, every weasel phrase, every omitted detail.

I’ve seen it dozens of times.


126 posted on 03/22/2012 11:17:01 PM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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Sick of the race pimps. As soon as Al Sharpton or the Black Panthers support one side I am immediately against it no matter the issue. Little Trayvon wasnt so innocent you should see his facebook page its still up, with photos of other thugs throwing up gangs signs etc. Im for the 2nd amendment, alot of people are getting sick and tired of the ways things are. I dont have to spell it out you all know what I mean. Tired of double standards and coddling.


168 posted on 03/23/2012 12:13:11 AM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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Typical politician.
It’s a shame when even a stand-up guy like West thinks it’s necessary to pander to the scumbag Democrat “mainstream” press. The proper statement would be: “Let’s get all the facts, first.” How hard is that to say, rather than knee-jerk a wild call for another “investigation”?


210 posted on 03/23/2012 12:56:27 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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Maybe Allen West ought to read a little more:
http://www.tinyurl.com/sanford-2012


335 posted on 03/23/2012 3:21:06 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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Jury duty will make one thing clear which is that crime is rarely clear cut. In this case some idiot chases another idiot who turns around and attacks the idiot who shoots the idiot. It’s hard to have any sympathy for either of them.


341 posted on 03/23/2012 3:29:24 AM PDT by palmer (Before reading this post, please send me $2.50)
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Zimmerman may or may not be guilty of manslaughter or murder or he may be innocent.This story may be a lot grayer than the fevered pitch media accounts of what happened. The first thing they need to do is stop creating the impression this was a little child by constantly showing his photo when he was 11 and stop talking about skittles. This was a 6’2” 17 year old high school football player.The police report said that Zimmerman’s back was wet and he was bleeding from the nose and back of head when he came on the scene and that he overheard Zimmerman tell the EMT that he was yelling for help but no one came to help..If there was a fight, who threw the first punch? If Zimmerman chased him, he should not have done so but that does not make him guilty of murder at that point. What would make him guilty of murder or negligent homicide is if he shot Martin while he was on his back being hit by Martin and was not reasonably in fear of imminent serious bodily harm or loss of life.This is something for a jury to sort out not the media or agenda driven folks like Al Sharpton.


355 posted on 03/23/2012 3:57:01 AM PDT by chuckee
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For those who can’t see past the race angle here on FR, West is a FL representative. He has to say something and all he’s saying is that justice must prevail. We conservatives need to stop being so kneejerk in response to stories like this.


384 posted on 03/23/2012 7:40:30 AM PDT by Clock King (Ellisworth Toohey was right: My head's gonna explode.)
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After listening to the voice yelling for help call, and Zimmerman’s statements that he was indeed calling out for help, I believe he was in severe stress, was being assaulted, and responded to save his life.

None of this will matter.

The media and the race baiters have already convicted him in the court of public opinion.

If Zimmerman faces charges, then NONE of us will be able to use the argument of self-defense with any degree of reliability.

If he is not charged and convicted, there may very well be race riots nation wide over this.


385 posted on 03/23/2012 8:02:12 AM PDT by Molon Labbie (End the War On Drugs, Restore the Constitution.)
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Very disappointed in Col. West for jumping to conclusions in this case.
395 posted on 03/23/2012 9:48:24 AM PDT by McGruff (Newt Gingrich, the closest thing we've got to Sarah Palin.)
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Disgusting of West. FEH!!!

>http://www.examiner.com/charleston-conservative-in-charleston-sc/zimmerman-was-on-the-ground-being-punched-when-he-shot-trayvon-martin?cid=PROD-redesign-right-next<

From the Charleston Conservative Examiner:

1. The witness reports that George Zimmerman was on the ground and Trayvon is on top of him punching him.
2. The witness says that George Zimmerman was screaming and yelling for help.
3. Police arrive and find Zimmerman bleeding on his face and the back of his head. He also has had grass stains on his back. All this confirms the story told by Zimmerman and the witness.
4. Police play the 911 tape for Trayvon Martin’s father, who tells police that the voice screaming is not the voice of his son.

Trayvon Martin was a towering 6’2” football player.


407 posted on 03/23/2012 11:30:52 AM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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