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George Zimmerman's Father: My Son Is Not Racist, Did Not Confront Trayvon Martin
Orlando Sentinel ^ | 3/15/12 | Rene Stutzman

Posted on 03/23/2012 10:06:45 AM PDT by Lmo56

The Sanford Neighborhood Watch volunteer who shot and killed Trayvon Martin, an unarmed black teenager, did not instigate the encounter but has received death threats and moved out of his home, his father told the Orlando Sentinel on Thursday.

George Zimmerman, 28, has not been arrested, something that has put him and the Sanford Police Department at the center of a firestorm. Critics say Trayvon, who was visiting family from his home in Miami, was a victim of racial profiling.

Zimmerman's father, 64-year-old Robert Zimmerman of Lake Mary, delivered a one-page letter to the Sentinel on Thursday, saying that the depiction of his son in the media has been cruel and misleading.

George Zimmerman is Hispanic and grew up in a multiracial family, the statement says.

"He would be the last to discriminate for any reason whatsoever ...," the letter says. "The media portrayal of George as a racist could not be further from the truth."

The letter does not provide details about what happened Feb. 26 on a walkway in the gated community where George Zimmerman lives and where Trayvon was visiting. But it does challenge one basic assumption of the family's lawyers: that Zimmerman's intent when he got out of his sport utility vehicle was to confront Trayvon after calling police to report a suspicious person.

(Excerpt) Read more at orlandosentinel.com ...


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KEYWORDS: georgezimmerman; martin; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: spunkets

You are hearing things.


101 posted on 03/23/2012 11:24:14 AM PDT by Double Tap
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To: Double Tap

t~2:21-2:22. He mutters, “f’n coons” as he’s supposedly running after Martin and after telling the dispatcher that Martin’s running out the back entrance.


102 posted on 03/23/2012 11:25:23 AM PDT by spunkets
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To: spunkets

You’re just getting pissed because you’re being exposed for the closet liberal you are.

You appear to be the only one on here who can hear what the media want you to hear.

Maybe you should go back to MoveOn and stop trying to fool us you’re a conservative.

You’ve swallowed too much of the MSM Koolaid.

The only BS here is being spread by a spunkets.


103 posted on 03/23/2012 11:26:40 AM PDT by Jack Burton007 (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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To: spunkets

No he doesn’t. I’ve now listened to it repeatedly. There is no “C” on the second word.


104 posted on 03/23/2012 11:27:15 AM PDT by Double Tap
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To: jagusafr

Agreed, it’s “punks.”


105 posted on 03/23/2012 11:27:58 AM PDT by Molon Labbie (End the War On Drugs, Restore the Constitution.)
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To: MrB
The death of a 6’3”
Man, this guy just keeps growing after death, pretty soon he'll be 6'8" 320lb, completely green and leaking gamma radiation.
106 posted on 03/23/2012 11:28:31 AM PDT by HenryArmitage (it was not meant that we should voyage far.)
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To: Lmo56

Reactions:

#1 - I love how libs just assume that all white people are racist simply because they are white while said libs lecture us about not being prejudiced by skin color.

#2 - This guy was a Hispanic - how does this incident prove that white racism is a problem?

#3 - I love how the media is painting this kid as a completely innocent victim. He was expelled from his school at the time wasn’t he? Is it possible that this kid was a thug in training? I’m not suggesting that it was okay to shoot him. I’m just wondering if there is more to the story.


107 posted on 03/23/2012 11:28:52 AM PDT by Tzimisce (this sucks)
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To: spunkets
At t~2:21-2:22. See#92.

Bull Shit !!! All you can hear is garbled noise - 'cept you with the divine hearing ...

Let others judge:

http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/911/call1.wav

108 posted on 03/23/2012 11:28:52 AM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: Lmo56

Obama seems to think the black vote will get him Florida and much more, lets skip the facts, particularly that there was a scuffle and that after interviewing witnesses, the police did not charge Zimmerman; probably because he did not commit a crime.

Lets use their tactics and remind everyone how Obama, Holder and the Black race baiters are trying to railroad an Hispanic man in Florida.

BTW that may well explain much of Heraldo’s statements of “hoody mitigation”.


109 posted on 03/23/2012 11:29:48 AM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: Lmo56

You don’t need to be a racist to be an a****** or a jerk. We have a guy like that in my neighborhood who believes God or St. Michael has appointed him the parking vigilante of the region and if that clown had ever had a CC permit we’d have needed mass graves by now.


110 posted on 03/23/2012 11:30:28 AM PDT by varmintman
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To: MizSterious

Many of us were not paying attention in the beginning and the only pictures that we have seen of the kid look like an average young boy, who would hurt anyone. Of course those pictures are three or four years old, but as far as the media is concerned, that is irrelevant.


111 posted on 03/23/2012 11:31:20 AM PDT by Eva
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To: Tzimisce
Which is all the sane ones amongst us want. If Zimmerman killed the kid in cold blood, put him under the jail. If Walker was assaulting Zimmerman and got shot in the process, that's tragic (only because Zimmerman did not HAVE to pursue Walker). But, either way, there are two families torn apart and maybe, JUST MAYBE, we should let the process run it's course.

The problem is the race-baiters won't allow that to happen.

112 posted on 03/23/2012 11:32:38 AM PDT by Axeslinger (Where has my country gone?)
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To: csense
"Pal"

I'm not yer pal.

"I used to be a sound technician for a ten piece band."

Whoopty doo?

"my ears are still pretty well tuned, and I can tell you that f*cking coon is not clear on that tape by any stretch of the imagination.

Tuned to what? You're deaf.

113 posted on 03/23/2012 11:32:41 AM PDT by spunkets
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To: Mr Rogers

I have not read or heard that anyone said Zimmerman’s head was being pounded “against the sidewalk.” I might have missed that piece of information. Got a link?


114 posted on 03/23/2012 11:34:16 AM PDT by Clara Lou (ABO! Go Newt!)
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To: Steamburg
Obama seems to think the black vote will get him Florida and much more ...

Many more Jewish retirees and Cuban-Hispanic Americans in FL than black voters.

The retirees are concerned about the economy and the Middle East and the Hispanics doe not [generally] support amnesty for illegals ...

115 posted on 03/23/2012 11:34:22 AM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: skinndogNN
Let’s say the kid did turn around and confront Zimmerman for following him, and even if he did start taking swings at Zimmerman, is the next logical step is to pull a gun?

Reading the posted links, eyewitnesses saw the shooter on the ground, screaming for help, with the other guy on top of him. He was bleeding from the his nose and the back of his head, and his back was covered in grass. Sounds like he was in danger of getting his head smashed in.

116 posted on 03/23/2012 11:34:55 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: spunkets
Just because you keep repeating it, doesn't make it any more true.

Have you noticed you're pretty much the only one here that is sure he's heard that?

When you think everybody else is nuts, maybe it's not them.

117 posted on 03/23/2012 11:35:26 AM PDT by Axeslinger (Where has my country gone?)
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To: Axeslinger

Zimmerman did not have to pursue Walker and Walker did not have to come back after him. When you get into an argument at a bar and leave the bar. Don’t go right back into the bar.


118 posted on 03/23/2012 11:36:29 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Jack Burton007

“........Also, why does the media only show us pictures of Martin as a young boy? Why do they only show us pictures of Zimmerman that appear as a arrest photo?.........
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Because they couldn’t find a photo of Martin as a toddler and they couldn’t find a picture of Zimmerman dressed in a Dracula costume.


119 posted on 03/23/2012 11:37:50 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Lmo56

Any bets on when the rioting and looting begins? The Leftists (a/k/a racists) won’t be happy until there’s some footage of burning buildings and po’ folks running out of the local WalMart carrying flat screen TV’s and cases of beer.


120 posted on 03/23/2012 11:38:56 AM PDT by Made In The USA (Bacon wrapped in bacon, wrapped in bacon, wrapped in bacon...)
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To: Jack Burton007
"You appear to be the only one on here who can hear what the media want you to hear."

K 007.

121 posted on 03/23/2012 11:39:05 AM PDT by spunkets
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To: spunkets

I hear the same thing you hear.


122 posted on 03/23/2012 11:41:13 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: spunkets

You might want to get your ears checked. What he says is, “F*cking cones”. I suspect he wasn’t talking about Martin at all but something in his way. Like maybe cones blocking off some work on the pavement? You had decided you knew what you were going to hear before you ever listened to it. What a good little “useful idiot” you are.


123 posted on 03/23/2012 11:41:47 AM PDT by MtBaldy (If Obama is the answer, it must have been a really stupid question)
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To: massgopguy; Axeslinger

Walker?

The kids name was Tryvon Martin. At least in the reports I’ve read.


124 posted on 03/23/2012 11:42:40 AM PDT by Jack Burton007 (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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To: Made In The USA

He ought to be referred to as Trayvon vom Rath, after Ernst vom Rath, whose shooting was the Nazis excuse for Kristallnacht.


125 posted on 03/23/2012 11:42:53 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Tzimisce

I can tell you that in Texas, a kid who’s suspended for 5 days has been misbehaving in school multiple times. It could be attendance, it could be fighting, it could be mouthing off in class, it could be bad language, it could be a combination of any of the previous.


126 posted on 03/23/2012 11:43:17 AM PDT by Clara Lou (ABO! Go Newt!)
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To: Jack Burton007

“Closet liberal”? That’s a leap.


127 posted on 03/23/2012 11:44:36 AM PDT by Clara Lou (ABO! Go Newt!)
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To: Jack Burton007

You’re right, my bad. Don’t know where the hell I got that from!


128 posted on 03/23/2012 11:44:52 AM PDT by Axeslinger (Where has my country gone?)
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To: Axeslinger

Wasn’t there a story a couple of weeks ago from St Louis where a group of black kids poured flammable liquid on a white kid and set him on fire while talking about killing whitey?

I guess some pigs really are more equal than others. :)


129 posted on 03/23/2012 11:45:16 AM PDT by Tzimisce (this sucks)
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To: Clara Lou

If it turns out Zimmerman is not guilty Michelle can blame it all on sugar. Skittles and Arizona Tea made Tryvon go off on a sugar induced hyperactive psychotic attack.


130 posted on 03/23/2012 11:46:41 AM PDT by dblshot (Insanity: electing the same people over and over and expecting different results.)
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To: Double Tap; All
I read a few different replies on you tube that he said "poonts" which is shorthand for the spanish putana or puto which can mean "bi**h". So he may have said "F-ing Bi****es". Or he may have said nothing Any spanish speaking freepers that can contribute on that? I know slang can be regional, even local, so I don't claim to know if that is true or not.

I know you tube replies aren't the go to for factual info, just thought it was interesting.

131 posted on 03/23/2012 11:47:09 AM PDT by cport (How can political capital be spent on a bunch of ingrates)
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To: JPG

“I remember a TV show where the husband and wife were driving along (she had earlier been raped and was still freaked-out) and she suddenly points out a man and screams, “That’s him! That’s the guy who attacked me.” The husband stops the car, gets out, follows the man into a parking garage and kills him. After he comes back to the car, he doesn’t say anything to his wife, and starts driving again. Soon, she points to another man and shouts, “That’s Him...over there, that’s the one!”

Lets get all the facts before we jump to conclusions.”
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Amen!! I saw that TV show. I wish some of the “hang him high” jump to conclusion types posting on this subject had seen it and MAYBE, JUST MAYBE had leaned something from it. But I guess we can’t deal with the willfully ignorant and emotional juveniles among us using logic or rational, calm thought & discussion.


132 posted on 03/23/2012 11:48:16 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Mr. K

He was headed for his father’s girlfriend’s house. He was suspended from school for 5 days.


133 posted on 03/23/2012 11:48:36 AM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: spunkets

And yet you seem to be the one without evidence of any kind that he said this. Not the Police, not the media, no one who isn’t connected personally and emotionally to this case supports your contention. How do you explain that.


134 posted on 03/23/2012 11:48:49 AM PDT by csense
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To: joe fonebone

Let me repeat your accurate post adding a link to the video of the crime scene and interview with the eye witness.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/seminole_news/022712-man-shot-and-killed-in-neighborhood-altercation#ixzz1phFMGCu4

“the 911 tape contained screams. When this tape was played for the boys ( 17 years old, 6’2” 190 pounds of him )father, the father stated the screams were not from his son. A witness saw the black man on top of zimmerman punching him repeatedly in the face, while zimmerman screamed for help... zimmermans face was bloody and bruised, and the back of his head was bleeding... now add all this together and what do you have?

You have a guy approaching a 6’2” suspended from school black man in a hoodie, and upon initial confrontation the black man attacks, for whatever reason you wish to insert here....knocks down the neighborhood watch guy and starts beating the crap out of him.... only thing not accounted for is the fact that the neighborhood watch guy was armed.

Conclusion, the thug picked the wrong guy to attack.”

MUST SEE video, upper left hand corner.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/seminole_news/022712-man-shot-and-killed-in-neighborhood-altercation#ixzz1phFMGCu4


135 posted on 03/23/2012 11:49:21 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: spunkets

Race card politics really do have unintended consequences. It seems Obama and Holder want to railroad an Hispanic in Florida for something that was instigated by a “hoody wearer” (See Heraldo interview also see Uni-bomber sketch before you go racial). From witness statements it appears Mr. “Hoody wearer” may have been kicking Mr. Zimmerman’s ass before getting shot. We weren’t there and the facts no longer appear relevant.

Just for clarity, following witness statements, no PC was found for an arrest.

Professional agitators,including Obama, arrived to play politics. Are you sure justice has any dog in this fight?


136 posted on 03/23/2012 11:50:45 AM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: dblshot
If it turns out Zimmerman is not guilty Michelle can blame it all on sugar. Skittles and Arizona Tea made Tryvon go off on a sugar induced hyperactive psychotic attack.

Or, if Martin really did provoke Zimmerman by attacking him, Michelle could say, "Whitey had it comin', but he didn't need to kill the po' black boy ..." - even though Zimmerman is a Hispanic Multi-Racial ...

137 posted on 03/23/2012 11:50:50 AM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: MizSterious

Well, that might be true if only a few people do it. But if enough good folks do it, then their revenues will begin to dry up. And that’s what matters to them, not the truth and not the constitution. We don’t need to keep paying them to live and the juggernaut will eventually crash of it’s own weight if we stop supporting it.


138 posted on 03/23/2012 11:50:58 AM PDT by RichardMoore (There is only one issue- Life: dump TV and follow a plant based diet)
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To: Jack Burton007

Slab report says the kid dead weight was 160 lb, at that age I was 180 and six foot. So the kid was a string bean. And why did the kid stay on the phone with his girl friend, you already answered that, he was a kid. Why in the world would someone be hunting him with a gun, he had not done anything.


139 posted on 03/23/2012 11:52:24 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Clara Lou

Not as big a leap as those who are trying to make that jump with their soul brother Al Sharpton.

Hell, my leap can’t even be considered leaving the ground compared to those.


140 posted on 03/23/2012 11:53:16 AM PDT by Jack Burton007 (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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To: coon2000

LOL!


141 posted on 03/23/2012 11:53:48 AM PDT by pdbeaches
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To: DAC21

Now that is funny!


143 posted on 03/23/2012 11:54:42 AM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: MrB; spunkets
Wow, you must have been right there when all this happened, given the details of what you “know”...

That's because he's full of sh.., oh sorry, coons. And he hates Hispanics.

144 posted on 03/23/2012 11:54:50 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Democrats love direct democracy until it's time to vote on something. Then they scream for a judge)
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To: massgopguy
"When you get into an argument at a bar and leave the bar. Don’t go right back into the bar."

We all know that never happens. :)

145 posted on 03/23/2012 11:55:40 AM PDT by RabidBartender
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To: Axeslinger
"Just because you keep repeating it, doesn't make it any more true."

That's right! The truth just is. ...no more, no less.

"Have you noticed you're pretty much the only one here that is sure he's heard that?"

Democracy is not a logical operation and thus has no place in scientific, or rational analysis. So, I don't give a rats ass who, or how many people contradict reality.

146 posted on 03/23/2012 11:56:31 AM PDT by spunkets
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To: Lmo56

Google is your friend.


147 posted on 03/23/2012 11:56:45 AM PDT by goseminoles
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To: Clara Lou
Clara, the headbashing appears to have been an invention ~ but it's on a number of threads here and elsewhere.

Now back to the address ZImmerman gave ~ he said "111 RETREAT VIEW CIRCLE" then the dispatcher asked was that 111 or 1111 Retreat View then George said "That's the clubhouse...."

Being just a dumb old postal worker I bothered to look up that address: 111 RETREAT VIEW CIRCLE SANFORD FL 32771 on the USPS address look up website (the one you get to find ZiP CODE.

IT told me ADDRESS DOES NOT EXIST.

The other address is 1111 RETREAT VIEW CIR SANFORD FL 32771-7275, and you'll notice USPS gave me the full 9-digit zip.

THERE is a "111" address in the area ~ at an Orthodontists office on a nearby street.

1111, according to Google Earth backs on a low wall (so the chilluns and puppies don't get hurt climbing over it) on a public street.

GOOGLE Earth does not seem to have gone inside this development. At the same time when you look at the map the CLUB HOUSE IS A full city block away from 1111 Retreat View.

111 is on the most logical route to get from this development to the nearest convenience store.

148 posted on 03/23/2012 11:57:52 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: coon2000
I did not hear the word “coon” on the tape and I am used to hearing the word as I am called coon all the time.

No way!! ;-)

Could you distinguish between your momma calling you "coon" or "effing coon"?

149 posted on 03/23/2012 12:00:16 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Democrats love direct democracy until it's time to vote on something. Then they scream for a judge)
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To: spunkets

The reality is you’re making stuff up to suit what you want to believe he says. Sad.


150 posted on 03/23/2012 12:03:19 PM PDT by beandog (Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand)
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