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Obama administration's plan to cut back pilot firearm training raises security concerns
fox ^ | 3/23/12 | Catherine Herridge

Posted on 03/23/2012 5:21:43 PM PDT by Nachum

Pilots packing heat may soon be a relic of the 9/11 aftermath, as the White House seeks to cut the $25 million budget in half for the federal flight deck officers training program known as the FFDO.

“The Obama administration has had an institutional hostility towards the concept of arming pilots, and especially the FFDO program, since the beginning,” Lt. Col. Al Aitken, a retired Marine and now with the Airline Security Consulting Group, claimed at a panel hosted by the conservative Heritage Foundation on Friday.

The panel brought together advocates for the voluntary program that trains pilots, co-pilots and navigators to handle and carry handguns, including Minnesota Republican Rep. Chip Craavack. He said the program was cost effective – in fact, it was cheaper to arm a pilot than check a single suitcase.

“According to the estimates by the Airlines Pilots Association, FFDOs only cost $15 per flight segment. Let me say that again: To protect an aircraft and possibly the potential of thousands of people, the FFDO costs $15 per flight.

Capt. Tracy W. Price, a commercial airline pilot, warned that history might repeat itself -- he recalled that pilots carried handguns in the 80s and 90s, but the program was shuttered the summer before 9/11.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: administrations; firearm; obama; pilot
Don't you feel safer now?
1 posted on 03/23/2012 5:21:57 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

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2 posted on 03/23/2012 5:23:24 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Goober in the White House has not found something that he cannot hose up.


3 posted on 03/23/2012 5:23:49 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: Nachum
Cut the TSA budget to zero.....

It's a worthless Grandma-groping exercise, where the Muslims are waved through for "politically-correct" purposes.

Oh...my bad.

The majority of the TSA Agents are "Holder's People"......never mind.....

4 posted on 03/23/2012 5:24:39 PM PDT by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Nachum

15 times 4 = 60 lot cheaper than two wars at about a trillion bucks


5 posted on 03/23/2012 5:25:07 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: hadaclueonce

Calling him Goober is going to get me a visit.


6 posted on 03/23/2012 5:25:32 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: Nachum

Basic firearm safety should be required for every pilot, co-pilot, and stewards. If for no other reason than securing a firearm taken from either a passenger, left behind by accident or taken from a terrorist.


7 posted on 03/23/2012 5:30:10 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: taxcontrol

A 100 million dollar airplane,and 300 passengers to be responsible for and yet the pilot is not trustworthy enough to possess a hand gun. What can I say? However those really trustworthy IRS guys..they’re OK!


8 posted on 03/23/2012 5:55:15 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: hadaclueonce
Goober in the White House has not found something that he cannot hose up.

Obama could NOT be that stupid but Americans can be.

Name one thing, just one that Obama has done to improve the situation.

Obama stops oil production at every chance he gets

Obama leads the way to racial strife

Obama encourages financial insanity of mortgages for those who can't pay

Etc.

Obama used the US Military to illegally attack a government for the purpose of setting up radical Muslims and Sharia law (Libya)

Obama used all of his influence to set up Egypt for overthrow and then the takeover by the radical Muslim Brotherhood.

Obama has done everything he can to hurt America, and you think it's because he's a stupid guber.

Could it be Americans are gubers and our first Muslim President is laughing at just how stupid Americans really are?

Does the name Hussein give you a sufficient hint or will you have to wait for the Muslim traitor to declare Martial first?

9 posted on 03/23/2012 5:55:24 PM PDT by politicianslie (Obama: America's first Muslim POTUS, doing all he can to destroy America. HELLO, can anyone th)
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To: politicianslie

You omitted one......

Obama is the personal subversive plant put in place in the white hut by The House of Saud and the Wahabs, and as such, none of these otherwise stupid things he’s doing are by accident or from ignorance. They are part of a PLAN....and it appears to be working.


10 posted on 03/23/2012 6:09:49 PM PDT by Tucker39 ( Psa 68:19Blessed be the Lord, who daily loadeth us with benefits; even the God of our salvation.KJV)
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To: Nachum
“The Obama administration has had an institutional hostility towards the concept of arming pilots,

Obama has had a hostility towards arming just about anyone except Mexican drug cartels and Palestinians.

11 posted on 03/23/2012 6:21:24 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (You only have three billion heartbeats in a lifetime.How many does the government claim as its own?)
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To: Tucker39; All
Obama is the personal subversive plant put in place in the white hut by The House of Saud and the Wahabs, and as such, none of these otherwise stupid things he’s doing are by accident or from ignorance. They are part of a PLAN....and it appears to be working.

Exactly but when I tell people the obvious, that Obama is a Muslim Plant, then they stop thinking and utter something stupid like CONSPIRACY THEORY.

Americans are the biggest fools in history.

12 posted on 03/23/2012 6:56:46 PM PDT by politicianslie (Obama: America's first Muslim POTUS, doing all he can to destroy America. HELLO, can anyone th)
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To: KarlInOhio

I would add to the list: black thugs & asshat lib’s.


13 posted on 03/23/2012 7:05:55 PM PDT by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: politicianslie

Right. And taking your reply as a springboard, I dislike Willard, and will have to hold my nose very tightly, if I am only left with him as the “R” candidate. It may be that Romney’s accusing Zero of being stupid and inept will not turn of uncommitted voters as quickly as if he called Zero what we all know him to be; a muslim plant. Some people can’t handle anything shocking.


14 posted on 03/23/2012 9:07:10 PM PDT by Tucker39 ( Psa 68:19Blessed be the Lord, who daily loadeth us with benefits; even the God of our salvation.KJV)
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To: Nachum

Even the Bush administration wasn’t too keen on the program. They put a lot of obstacles in the way of pilots wanting to qualify, and they made the rules so restrictive as to be stupid and counterproductive. Plus some were downright dangerous and violations of safe firearms handling.

But nothing like The Won. So much for His attempts to assure us that he is not hostile to arms rights. He’s hostile for anyone he doesn’t control directly having arms. Anyone.


15 posted on 03/23/2012 9:31:00 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

bush and Obama are the same. I see no difference whatsoever between them.


16 posted on 03/23/2012 9:32:47 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Nachum

BFL


17 posted on 03/23/2012 9:34:42 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: Nachum

He was Probably afraid that someone would get shot on an airplane .. like a muslim terrorist


18 posted on 03/23/2012 10:52:06 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: traditional1
The majority of the TSA Agents are "Holder's People"......never mind.....

Only partially correct. Should be: The majority of the TSA Agents are "UNION people"

That is why TSA will never go away. Mostly they are another UNION payoff and thereby a source of cash to the democratic party.p>
19 posted on 03/24/2012 8:28:57 PM PDT by JSteff ((((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))))
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To: GlockThe Vote
bush and Obama are the same. I see no difference whatsoever between them.

Really? Some points of comparison please for accuracy?
20 posted on 03/24/2012 8:36:13 PM PDT by JSteff ((((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))))
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To: JSteff

Both for NWO
Both for amnesty for illegals
Both fiscal socialists and keynsians.
Both owned by goldman Sachs
Both for the patriot act and police state
Both bailed out the wall street mafia
Both beholden to. The house of SAUD
Both devaluing the dollar

Etc etc


21 posted on 03/24/2012 8:45:47 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Nachum

What a joke this administration has become. If the traveling public had any idea of how few flights will be covered after the elimination of the FFDO program, they’d descend on the local airports with pitchforks in hand.

FFDOs do this all without compensation, commonly traveling halfway across the country to initial or recurrent training. And for practice on their own, it was not uncommon to spend from $500 to $1000 per year on ammo and range fees.


22 posted on 04/04/2012 8:50:42 AM PDT by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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