Skip to comments.Witness: Martin attacked Zimmerman
Posted on 03/23/2012 8:56:45 PM PDT by KazanEdited on 03/23/2012 8:59:52 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
ORLANDO - A witness we haven't heard from before paints a much different picture than we've seen so far of what happened the night 17-year-old Trayvon Martin was shot and killed.
The night of that shooting, police say there was a witness who saw it all.
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I was just playing. I know you meant “It’s” and not “I.” You’ve got to admit, it was a funny typing error.
Considering the “audacity” of the progressive tyrants in power, I need a bit of joking around to help me stay sane.
LOL, You are right. I didn’t even catch that until you pointed it out.
This was my own “My Muslim faith” type error - LOL
I heard 7'8", 550 lbs, green skin.
What’s going on with these “witnesses”?
....Cooper spoke with two witnesses, Mary Cutcher and her roommate Selma Mora Lamilla....”
I completely agree.
I think the lines have been drawn and many people on both sides are itching for a fight these days.
One side wants to return this country to it’s founding principles, the other wants to shed them completely and move on to top down distribution and entitlements.
We have an administration that is fanning the flames of civil unrest at every opportunity.
“I now have reasons to fear for my life myself having read threats from various gun enthusiasts typing them and insults on this forum.”
So what else is new. That response certainly didn’t begin with this issue.
This is MSM “we have obscured the facts for far too long already”.
The damage is done. The people who are upset - are irrational. They already assume they are the “poor victims of all this evil whitey gonna shoot them in the street” - quite literally.
The fact that there are only 400 White v Black murders per year - INCLUDING all criminal element and drugs - is meaningless to them.
It is a disgrace that the left would take advantage of these dumb people the way they do.
They - quite literally - are not capable of understanding rule of law. They like “rule of feelings”. The AVERAGE Black American IQ = 85. The AVERAGE Black inner city IQ is 75. Sorry - facts are facts.
The only winner here is Skittles and the makers of hoodies.
It is ALL a diversion from Fast and Furious. ALL OF IT!!!
And not a mention anywhere in MSM. This witness better have armed security or he may conveniently disappear or have a terrible accident.
There will be bloody race riots like we have never seen before if Obama is not reelected.
Prepare for it.
I think it is a little late to make this go away now. It may hopefully be the albatross around the collective necks of Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton, the rest of the race baiters including the majority of the left.
Now all of a sudden he doesn’t recognize him as his son. Funny what a difference 24 hours makes.
“do you seriously think it will make a difference to the baying mob in this case? They dont care what facts there are. “
I think this will matter to a lot more people than you imagine.
It does matter how the physical violence started. If you start physical violence, you lose your privilege to use force in self defense.
-- No matter how pissed you are about someone following you, you don't have the right to follow them and start beating on them. --
That's correct. Putting a person in reasonable apprehension of offensive contact is enough to trigger the privilege of self defense, but mere words is no excuse for initiating physical violence.
-- If Zimmerman threw the first punch then the kid was acting in self defense ... --
And Zimmerman is guilty of manslaughter. If Zimmerman initiated physical violence, then he has lost the privilege of self defense.
The "who started it" play clock is reset each time the opponents break off and have an opportunity to retreat or otherwise de-escalate.
>>Sounds like self defense to me.
Maybe. Unfortunately, the witness didnt see who started it. If I punch you for no reason and then you proceed to kick my butt, Ive sorta given up my right to self defense.<<
But it puts to bed the lie that this was a white guy targeting a black yute just because he was black. This is dynamite.
Picture Yosemite Sam’s face after the dynamite stick blows up in his hand.
Good photo find.
This whole media driven story is all about photos. I wonder how many folks would be marching if the family and their PR handlers had not exclusively posted the photos of a 11 year old child to manage the impression that this was the skittle toting defenseless vulnerable “child” that was shot rather than the current day photo of a 6’3” young man and high school football player flashing gangsta poses on facebook. Zimmerman may still be guilty. I do not know the facts. But when it comes to a good story, emotion rather than facts rues the day.
This story will get a lot greyer if it comes out Zimmerman without having touched the “child” after following him was walking back to the truck and Martin assaulted him. Then we are getting into the factual area of whether deadly force was warranted in the beatdown.
You might imagine yourself to be in the right following around a "suspicious looking person', but what if he's just an innocent person, or a chil', and you end up engaged in something ~ you might find yourself on the wrong side of the law real quick.
That kind of thing can just ruin your life.
That's pretty much what we have here it looks like.
Makes this much more like that event in Wisconsin several years back where the Hmong guy claimed "they were hunting me', and it turned out that his self-defense claim turned to poop when they found he'd been shooting unarmed women as well.
Took a bit of time for all the news to get out on that. Then, even at trial, new stuff came up.
I read something new. What are warlocks, besdies the Harry Potter, Merlin type of magic casters?