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Witness: Martin attacked Zimmerman
Fox Miami ^ | Friday, 23 Mar 2012 | Staff

Posted on 03/23/2012 8:56:45 PM PDT by Kazan

Edited on 03/23/2012 8:59:52 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

ORLANDO - A witness we haven't heard from before paints a much different picture than we've seen so far of what happened the night 17-year-old Trayvon Martin was shot and killed.

The night of that shooting, police say there was a witness who saw it all.


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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; obama; trayvon; trayvonmartin; trayvonshooting; trayvonwitness; zimmerman
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To: mnehring

It’s gonna be pretty easy to determine if a man was shot on the ground while on his back, or if a man on top was shot while the shooter was being pummeled.


51 posted on 03/23/2012 9:23:53 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Revolting cat!

It’s a shame you’re so fearful of their guns they’re virtually brandishing in your face.


52 posted on 03/23/2012 9:23:53 PM PDT by TauntedTiger (Keep away from the fence!)
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To: mnehring

It’s gonna be pretty easy to determine if a man was shot on the ground while on his back, or if a man on top was shot while the shooter was being pummeled.

It may be less difficult to determine who escalated what.


53 posted on 03/23/2012 9:24:45 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: okie01

where did you get the discriptions???

Thanks


54 posted on 03/23/2012 9:24:45 PM PDT by know-the-law
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To: VanDeKoik

Sr. or Jr.?


55 posted on 03/23/2012 9:24:57 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: PhilDragoo

He looked better and lived better during the BUSH years.


56 posted on 03/23/2012 9:26:18 PM PDT by NoLibZone (When will Obama call Trayvon's mom? He was quick to call Sandra Fluke.)
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To: Kazan

Mark for later.


57 posted on 03/23/2012 9:26:18 PM PDT by matthew fuller (A patriotic American would be ASHAMED to have 5 non-veteran adult sons.)
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To: Revolting cat!
semi-literats

Snicker.

58 posted on 03/23/2012 9:27:38 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: PhilDragoo

Any truth to the report that this “kid” was 6’ 3” and 200 Pounds?


59 posted on 03/23/2012 9:27:45 PM PDT by airborne (Paratroopers! Good to the last drop!)
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To: okie01
But, somehow, I doubt the 5-9 Zimmerman (who looks a little on the pudgy side in his photo) would've initiated an assault on the 6-2, 200 Martin.

A 200 lb Martin completely turns the story around. Do you have a web source for this information?

60 posted on 03/23/2012 9:28:49 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: mylife
It may be less difficult to determine who escalated what.

That seems to be the unknown here. Did Zimmerman first attack Martin, possibly trying to detain him and Martin was the one initially defending himself or did Martin just go off on Zimmerman. A lot more needs to come out. Way too many folks are knee jerking on both sides of this.

61 posted on 03/23/2012 9:29:36 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: airborne

airborne,

It varies from a minimum of 6’ tall and 160 lbs. (an estimate made by a responding officer) to 6’3” tall and 200 lbs. (reported by some media outlets).

Either way, no small “kid”.

Hooah.


62 posted on 03/23/2012 9:30:55 PM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: Kazan

I see a tragedy for all involved, being exploited by the race-haters Jackson, Farrakhan and Sharpton for their own personal egotistical gains, and to forment racial strife.

And some of the black masses fell for this crap again. Sharpton and Jackson and Farrakhan are not their leaders. They are their exploiters, the new slave masters, who want to keep their own people in perpetual hate and mental slavery.

Where are black moderate leaders who will step up and say, “Wait a minute” - Let’s get the facts before we act or react out of stupidity and blind hate?”

Whitney Young would never had done this. He had too much integrity and intelligence to play the race-baiters’ games.

Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. would not have played this race-hate game. He wasn’t about “hate”.

Have the extremists won the “hearts and minds” of the black people, or the Hispanic people, or any other minority? If so, Obama is assured a second term which will polarize America to the point of another civil war.

When Americans no longer seek the truth about a tragedy, but react with blind hatred and anger, then the extremists have won. Obama is a race-extremist, as is Eric Holder and many of their political appointees. They know, as good marxists and black liberation theology/reparationist believers, how to manipulate the “masses” into giving them more illegal powers to control America, and our country will become a third world dictatorship.

Never underestimate the power of a demagogue (Obama, Holder, Sharpton, Jackson, Farrakhan) to manipulate the “lumpenproletariat” into becoming their voters and shocktroops, aided and abetted by stupid liberals and the uneducated.

Our schools have been producing these types of people for decades - easily fooled/duped, led, and fed (lies, welfare, freebies, a free pass through school).

Now we are paying for what the Left has done to our country and there is little time left to straighten out our corrupted systems. Nov. 6th is the day in which Americans choose which way their country goes. After that, you don’t want to be around if Obama wins. He has lists and the manpower to get you if he wants.

At least I can go to a friendly country or two to live out my remaining days or go down fighting there. How about you? Where can you go?


63 posted on 03/23/2012 9:33:22 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: mnehring
A lot more needs to come out. Way too many folks are knee jerking on both sides of this.

Black teens commit a lot of crime. The reflex assumption is that a Neighborhood Watch guy won't go out of his way to look for trouble - after all, any given perp can find out very easily where he lives, given that he's a neighborhood guy, and wait around to bushwhack him.

64 posted on 03/23/2012 9:34:24 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: CatherineofAragon

The LSM won’t bury the story but instead add him/her to the electronic lynching taking place. What’s better than hanging one Whitey? Hanging two of them!

They’ll assassinate, vilify, and attack the character of the witness first and then figure out how to get them fired from their job and even charged with a crime or two.


65 posted on 03/23/2012 9:34:29 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: 101stAirborneVet

6-3 and 200 lbs? and no NBA contract?


66 posted on 03/23/2012 9:34:46 PM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: Kazan

BFL


67 posted on 03/23/2012 9:35:49 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: sargon
I think it does it is the way the witness was speaking about it. I read it a few times
“”The guy on the bottom who had a red sweater on was yelling to me: ‘help, help…and I told him to stop and I was calling 911,” he said.” - Zimmerman had a red sweater on

“When I got upstairs and looked down, the guy who was on top beating up the other guy, was the one laying in the grass, and I believe he was dead at that point,” John said.”

So the witness looked down from upstairs I guess of his home and saw the person who he had seen beating up the person with the red sweater(Zimmerman in red sweater) lying on the ground and presumably dead at that point.

Confusing

69 posted on 03/23/2012 9:38:13 PM PDT by funfan
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To: max americana
Yup. Every black journo and white-liberal-guilt-ridden journo are now going to do an about face. What a shame when Jesterme Jackson arrived to throw race cards at every direction...
You cannot let a good old fashioned "Race Baiting" opportunity go to waste doncha know.
70 posted on 03/23/2012 9:38:27 PM PDT by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: Zhang Fei
I read he was 6'3” and 160 pounds.

I thought Zimmerman was only 5'7” and 200 pounds.

Young, Tall and Lean versus Old, Short, Tubby and Armed.

Zimmerman sounds like a busybody, but people are trying to turn busybody into murderer and getting away with it. Next thing you know we have the Constitutional Scholar Obama who obviously doesn't understand the Legal concept of Innocent until proven Guilty...

71 posted on 03/23/2012 9:39:07 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (A day without Obama is like a day without a Tsunami.)
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To: Revolting cat!

Yes, a race baiting troll like you would love to kill this one.


72 posted on 03/23/2012 9:39:35 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: Kazan

A key piece of evidence will be what the knuckles of both individuals look like. If Martin was beating Zimmerman, his knuckles should show it and vice-versa.

Also, powder burns - which indicate the distance that a gun was from the target if it was nearby.

Photos of Zimmerman’s face and that of Martin re injuries.

Lots of forensic questions that need to be answered.


73 posted on 03/23/2012 9:40:05 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: know-the-law

If George Zimmerman is a White Hispanic...What is Barack Obama?


74 posted on 03/23/2012 9:41:20 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: Revolting cat!
"semi-literats" "I now have reasons to fear for my life myself"

Semi-literats is not a word even if 'literates' was spelled correctly.

Redundancy is semiliterate.


75 posted on 03/23/2012 9:41:32 PM PDT by I see my hands (It's time to.. KICK OUT THE JAMS, MOTHER FREEPERS!)
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To: Revolting cat!

Really?


76 posted on 03/23/2012 9:41:42 PM PDT by funfan
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To: mnehring

I know this.
I have CHL, and with it come considerable responsibility.
You do not want to find yourself before a grand jury with people saying you were provoking the dead man.

Me personally?
I would never take a life over property, let alone the suspicion that property may me in play.

Having said that, If someone was on my property in dark of night, whom I did not know, Alarms would be ringing.

I think Zimmerman may have been over zealous in reporting and following this kid, and I could understand where that may have infuriated the kid and caused him to feel threatened.
An altercation may have ensued.

I think what we have here is a sad tragic incident.
What has me agitated is all of the people in this world trying to pin this on whitey.

There is no basis in fact for it, but I see the scenario forming.


77 posted on 03/23/2012 9:42:19 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: NoLibZone

Where did you find those pictures? I can’t find anything like that.


78 posted on 03/23/2012 9:42:51 PM PDT by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: sargon

Per the 911 call Zimmerman made, when Zimmerman got out of his truck to follow Martin on foot Martin ran of into the darkness. Zimmerman told the 911 dispatch as he was ending his call that he was headed back to his truck.

Zimmerman never made it back to his truck. From what I gather from reading the police reports and listening to the 911 calls it looks like that after Martin fled off into the darkness he circled back around one of the condo buildings and ambushed Zimmerman as he was headed back to his truck.

The witness saw Martin on top of Zimmerman beating him in the face as Zimmerman screamed for help. Then Zimmerman pulled his gun and fired one shot. You can hear Zimmerman screaming for help and the one fired shot on one of the 911 calls made by a neighbor very close to the action.

It’ll be interesting to see what all of the Leftist FReepers have to say about this.


79 posted on 03/23/2012 9:42:51 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: PhilDragoo

That’s odd. The photos that the go-goos are plastering to their bodies show a smiling Beaver Cleaver-type kid with a tan, or one of his little buddies. (Not, uh, `Whitey’.)

This photo you posted shows a nose-in-the-air arrogant (in fact, he does bear a remarkable resemblance to our Dear Leader) quite possibly economy-sized, thug-4-life with attitude.

I wonder which Trayvon it was that Deputy George “Barney Fife” Zimmerman made the mistake of `dissing’ and tangling with that day ... I’m guessing the non-smiling version.


80 posted on 03/23/2012 9:43:18 PM PDT by tumblindice (our new, happy lives, thanks to Big Bro')
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To: Kazan

I hope he is in a safe place, otherwise I’m worried that he won’t live to testify in the case.


81 posted on 03/23/2012 9:43:29 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class!)
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To: TexasSecede79366
It’s progressed way too far too fast for the truth to matter.

on purpose

82 posted on 03/23/2012 9:43:37 PM PDT by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: NoLibZone
There sure is a difference with the pictures shown around the world.

Sweet kid VS a thug.

83 posted on 03/23/2012 9:44:07 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Dallas59

Japanese!


84 posted on 03/23/2012 9:45:24 PM PDT by NoLibZone (When will Obama call Trayvon's mom? He was quick to call Sandra Fluke.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Bingo


85 posted on 03/23/2012 9:46:40 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Wonder what Skittles stock will be trading at come Monday.


86 posted on 03/23/2012 9:46:50 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Irish Eyes

Yes.

Now why would the pro hoodie crowd, be so ashamed of the hoddie images?

They too see the difference!


87 posted on 03/23/2012 9:46:50 PM PDT by NoLibZone (When will Obama call Trayvon's mom? He was quick to call Sandra Fluke.)
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To: max americana

Obama:

“Well, yes, and, um, that guy, that Zimmerhead, he looks, he looks like he could be my son too. In a way. If you’re open-minded.”


88 posted on 03/23/2012 9:47:00 PM PDT by NYCslicker
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Probably if he was O’Blarney’s kid he would have had someone else do it, blame it on George Bush or the Chinese while all the while hiding behind Mommy.


89 posted on 03/23/2012 9:47:40 PM PDT by Ms Mable
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To: tumblindice

go-goos= http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3b/GoGos-Vacation.jpg


90 posted on 03/23/2012 9:47:58 PM PDT by tumblindice (our new, happy lives, thanks to Big Bro')
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To: Grams A

If gas prices were lower Trayvon would not have had to walk.


91 posted on 03/23/2012 9:48:18 PM PDT by NoLibZone (When will Obama call Trayvon's mom? He was quick to call Sandra Fluke.)
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To: Revolting cat!

I told you what happened based on the what I have read in the police reports and the 911 calls I listened to but you said I was wrong and the Leftist media was correct.


92 posted on 03/23/2012 9:48:45 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Ahhh...

None of that is admissible in court!

Lets speculate for the sake of politics!
That’s the game afoot!


93 posted on 03/23/2012 9:49:39 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Kickass Conservative
Young, Tall and Lean versus Old, Short, Tubby and Armed.

Zimmerman is 28.

94 posted on 03/23/2012 9:49:43 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: Revolting cat!

Are you eric holder?


95 posted on 03/23/2012 9:50:07 PM PDT by MtnClimber (Orchestrated failure will be the excuse for government take over.)
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To: Zhang Fei; know-the-law
Zimmerman was listed as 5-9 in a news story I saw at some point today -- probably the NY Daily News story that carried his picture.

One of the earlier news stories listed Martin as 6-2, 200; it also identified him as a football player.

News stories no longer qualify as being authoritative sources of information, but that's the best I can do.

96 posted on 03/23/2012 9:50:22 PM PDT by okie01
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To: Revolting cat!

Wow, you were that threatened by an apostrophe? Does an exclamation point make you run away from the keyboard?


97 posted on 03/23/2012 9:50:47 PM PDT by NYCslicker
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To: mnehring

Zimmerman’s 911 call has him saying that he is headed back to his vehicle, and has lost sight of Martin, then suddenly he is hit and it is all fight noises


98 posted on 03/23/2012 9:51:09 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: tumblindice
I wonder which Trayvon it was that Deputy George “Barney Fife” Zimmerman made the mistake of `dissing’ and tangling with that day ... I’m guessing the non-smiling version.

That one lost big.

99 posted on 03/23/2012 9:51:10 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Doogle

Bingo!


100 posted on 03/23/2012 9:52:34 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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