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In Trayvon Martin shooting, background of George Zimmerman can confound, confuse (expelled from CC)
Tampa Bay - St. Petersburg Times ^ | March 24, 2012

Posted on 03/24/2012 5:31:07 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

..."[George] Zimmerman's life was not without difficulties. In 2001, when he was 17 or 18, he was the victim of a minor criminal assault, said Manassas police Sgt. Eddie Rivera. The city's computer records do not provide details of the crime.

In school, Zimmerman hinted at ambitions in the business world. He joined a Future Business Leaders of America club. And in his senior yearbook, he wrote: "I'm going to Florida to work with my godfather who just bought a $1 million business."

In Sanford, Zimmerman shifted his plans, with hopes of becoming a law enforcement officer. NPR reported that he had taken a 14-week class at the Seminole County Sheriff's Office, and he was enrolled at Seminole State College until the school kicked him out this week, citing safety concerns.

He became the self-appointed protector of the streets around his home, although his neighborhood watch organization was not officially registered. Over the past eight years, he called the Police Department at least 46 times with reports of various sightings. In 2005, according to police records obtained by the Orlando Sentinel and other media, Zimmerman was twice accused of either criminal misconduct or violence. He had a concealed-weapon permit and had a black Kel-Tec semi­automatic handgun and a holster the night Martin died.....

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To: socal_parrot

Needs to sue the school and the press once this is sorted out..


101 posted on 03/24/2012 5:49:15 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (We kneel to no prince but the Prince of Peace)
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To: tasha2012

BS


102 posted on 03/24/2012 5:51:29 PM PDT by MagnoliaB
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To: MHGinTN
Apparently tasha joined today to enlighten us. I hope a zotting is in the near future.
103 posted on 03/24/2012 5:59:29 PM PDT by MagnoliaB
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To: MagnoliaB

There are several working this to hype the racism side, hang Zimmerman and play the race card for poor widdle treyvon. The most insidious thing about this ‘work’ these stealth lefgtist/racists are doing is the exploitation of black people on pure deceitful emotion. Some are too stupid to see that the white democrat power bosses are manipulating this tragedy for political diversion purposes and to ‘ unify the black vote’ around lies and hate now being generated even on FR by the posters such as org.whodat, Alice in Obamaland, wtc911, just to name three of the agitprop provocateurs spinning the yarns to knit hate and mayhem for their little barry bastard’s re-election. One thing though, at least we can keep track of which of these stealth leftists are coming out of the woodwork on instruction from somewhere.


104 posted on 03/24/2012 8:24:30 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN
I've made the following challenge on several of these threads, and none of the Z-Haters have responded:

Post any Florida statute that was violated by Zimmerman, and the evidence released to the public that supports probable cause to conclude Zimmerman violated that statute.

No response.

So it's clear this isn't about believing Zimmerman broke any actual law, it's about people "feeling like" Zimmerman should be charged.

Very scary, if you ask me. If one is to call for someone to stand trial, should one not have a legal basis upon which to do so?

I hope none of those people end up on a jury. Ever.

105 posted on 03/24/2012 8:42:55 PM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: 101stAirborneVet

Total agreement. There is no way, based on the evidence we have now, Mr Zimmerman can be convicted of any crime (and you hear it from one who’s not among Zimmerman’s defenders.)


106 posted on 03/24/2012 8:46:07 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Mustangman
"Trayvon was a completely innocent kid..."

Right. If this expelled, hooodie-wearing little rat was a "completely innocent kid," I'm the Archduke Ferdinand.

Hank

108 posted on 03/24/2012 8:52:39 PM PDT by County Agent Hank Kimball (Screw it. Newt's the smartest candidate and the guy I want to see debating Obummer. Flame away.)
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To: Irenic
For the sake of everybody here, this is s recent picture of George Zimmerman:


109 posted on 03/25/2012 2:16:42 AM PDT by PhatHead
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball
Yawn. One less expelled trouble-making rat in the world. Good riddance.

If you really mean you are glad he's dead, that is a sick thing to say.

It is entirely reasonable, and consistent with all known facts, to believe that Zimmerman acted in self-defense, even though Martin was a basically good kid, who certainly does not deserve to be dead. But he is dead, as a result of a tragic chain of events involving poor judgment by both parties.

Friends of both young men say they were friendly, decent, good people. That's the tragedy here.

110 posted on 03/25/2012 2:18:59 AM PDT by PhatHead
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To: PhatHead
When my son was a High Schooler, he had a couple of friends ont he football team. One of the two got so into 'bulking up' that he started using steroids to help his muscle growth. His personality changed, dramatically. My son is a black belt in Tae Kwon Do and is not a small man. He would have been hard pressed to stop an attack from the friend on steroids for weight training.

I'm wondering if Trayvon had gotten into hormone supplements to bulk up, and his personality may have changed, making him more aggressive and less restrained. He was clearly much bigger than Zimmerman and it appears from the police data that Martin was the aggressor. Would we the public even hear of it now if Martin was found to have been using 'enhancement drugs' for his weight training? I mean, the irrational hatred Jackson, Obama, Sharpton, and a few swine posting at FR have generated blocks rational discussion and foments the hate democrat lsut for in order to keep racial tensions on their side of election numbers. Sad that no black people seem able to discern that manipulation.

111 posted on 03/25/2012 8:36:50 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: cport

You’re right as far as I know, now. Zimmerman never attempted to talk with Trayvon. This just adds more support to the conclusion Trayvon was freaked by Zimmerman and over reacted by punching him. The emotional tug remains that you can completely understand why Trayvon was freaked. Still, he had zero right to hit Zimmerman and that’s why I think in the end Zimmerman remains free...in spite of his ‘cop’ want to be over the top behavior. Again this is a complete tragedy.

By the way, I’m a white dude. Several yeasr ago I was 30 minutes early for a doctors appointment so, I decided to walk around the block a few times to kill time. On my third lap I was approacked by a hispanic man who wanted to know why I kept passing by the ‘daycare center’ so many times,

“Wow.” I thought. This guy suspects I might be a perve. And, even though I was mostly nervous about my appointment, I could see how I might have looked suspicious to him.

Still, I didn’t get all defensive and angry....and punch the dude square in the jaw. I simply thanked the dude for looking out for the neighborhood. No harm. No foul.

The fact is, we are still at a point in our society where a white dude like me is thankful neighbors are looking out for neighbors but, a black kid like Trayvon’s first impression is that Zimmerman was there to beat him down and felt so threatened he was compelled to violence.

Who knows why I look at the world differently than Trayvon? I do know that when Al Sharpton purposely turns it into a circus and President Obama strikes his ‘civil rights’ pose as if we’re all still living in the year 1812, this only stirs the pot further.....as opposed to helping all of us come to a better understanding of each other.


112 posted on 03/25/2012 8:52:04 AM PDT by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: MHGinTN
Well, we know an autopsy has been performed, so if there were any substances such as you suggest present, the police know about it. However, I think you are making a few assumptions here.

He was clearly much bigger than Zimmerman and it appears from the police data that Martin was the aggressor.

The police report lists Martin as 6'0" 160 pounds. This is likely only an estimate, but still indicates a young man who does not appear "bulked up." Zimmerman is listed at 5'9" and no weight entered. That's only three inches shorter than Martin.

There is only witness testimony to the fact that Martin appeared to be prevailing in the fight immediately before the shooting. There is no evidence I have seen (other than Zimmerman's account) that Martin was "the aggressor," and I think it is important to keep that in mind.

Nobody disputes that Martin was in the neighborhood legally, and was not engaged in any criminal acts when this chain of events began. It is entirely possible that at the time the witness saw the fight, both young men believed they were fighting for their lives.

By itself, that would not necessarily invalidate Zimmerman's claim of self-defense. Martin does not have to be a bad guy for Zimmerman to have felt threatened. It is quite clear that both of them had the opportunity to avoid a fight by simply talking to each other, and it is really tragic that they did not.

113 posted on 03/25/2012 9:24:58 AM PDT by PhatHead
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To: tasha2012

he had ambitions of being a aviator mechanic.
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Welcome to FRee Republic n00bie...

OK now thats over...

Kid ya dont get to be an aviator mechanic by being suspended from school five days at a time...

Just what did lil Trayvon do to get his butt kicked out of school ???

Waiting...

CRICKETS


114 posted on 03/25/2012 9:30:48 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: tasha2012

,bottom line is trayvon was walking home minding his own business,
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You dont know that you werent there...

And he wasnt walking home

he was going to the home of the girlfriend of his father...


115 posted on 03/25/2012 9:35:13 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: tasha2012

he wasn’t commiting a criminal act when zimmerman attacked him,
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You dont know that you werent there

1. You dont know whether or not Martin was committing a crime

2. and you dont know who attacked who..


116 posted on 03/25/2012 9:37:23 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: tasha2012

he was screaming for help trying to get away,
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Did you sign up just to give a bias erroreous statement ???

It was Zimmerman who was “screaming for help” not your homie...

Martin was the one doing the attacking ..


117 posted on 03/25/2012 9:39:27 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: tasha2012

he was screaming for help trying to get away,
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Martin was not trying to get away

nobody was stopping him from leaving

he was on top of Zimmerman attacking him on the head etc

witnesses saw that part...


118 posted on 03/25/2012 9:41:25 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: tasha2012

he didnt stop screaming until he got shot in the chest.
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You mean he didnt stop beating Zimmerman until he got shot in the chest...

Martins voice is not on any recording screaming or begging for help but the voice of Zimmerman is...

Plus Martins father and other witnesses say it was not Martins voice..


119 posted on 03/25/2012 9:44:07 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Don’t expect an answer from her.


120 posted on 03/25/2012 9:45:36 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: tasha2012

i heard the 911 audio recording u can hear him screaming for his life, it was horrible.
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I sure it was horrible..

Zimmerman must have been afraid for his life have the much larger Martin beating him..

Yes Im sure Zimmerman had reason to scream for his life...

Clearly a case of self defense...


121 posted on 03/25/2012 9:47:04 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: tasha2012

Zimmerman wanted to look like the hero so he shot trayvon so that there would only be one side of the story, HIS
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Agswin you werent there...

You dont know that...

and according to witnesses that didnt happen...

They watched the whole thing...


122 posted on 03/25/2012 9:48:42 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Admin Moderator

OK

:)


123 posted on 03/25/2012 9:55:22 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: rlmorel
"...I think it is something that people USED to do in their neighborhoods, because it was the RIGHT thing to do..."

You're right. Our society has been duped into enabling criminal behavior because being called "snitch" by a criminal has become widely accepted as being contemptible.

124 posted on 03/25/2012 10:39:21 AM PDT by Zman516
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To: PhatHead

I wonder why you left out the physical evidence of injuries on Zimmerman?


125 posted on 03/25/2012 10:41:32 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN
I wonder why you left out the physical evidence of injuries on Zimmerman?

Huh? I didn't "leave out" anything. I was just replying to your post to me speculating about steroid use by Martin, not trying to give an exhaustive account of everything that happened that night. You didn't mention Zimmerman's injuries, either. I welcome you to look at my posting history elsewhere on this topic. I can assure you I am quite well aware of a number of details and would much prefer that everybody offering opinions familiarize themselves with all the known facts, and I'm sure you agree with that.

126 posted on 03/25/2012 11:10:29 AM PDT by PhatHead
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To: PhatHead

I’m not “glad” he’s dead - I’m utterly indifferent. There’s a difference.

How many “good kids” get expelled from school? Especially these days. Odds are this kid would’ve wound up in a gang, jacking cars or otherwise wreaking havoc on decent people.

Maybe not, but the odds are in my favor.

Hank


127 posted on 03/25/2012 2:00:32 PM PDT by County Agent Hank Kimball (Screw it. Newt's the smartest candidate and the guy I want to see debating Obummer. Flame away.)
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To: Revolting cat!

“tardiness. Keep on spreading your false guesses.”

Post this AM at 12:35 says it was for ASSAULT on the bus driver. My instincts told me it was for something far more serious than tardiness. Are you telling me that the little angel travon might not have had a serious attitude problem that led to an assault on Zimmerman?


128 posted on 03/26/2012 5:09:26 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: freeangel

More information as time goes on. Sorry, I was reporting on an early report.


129 posted on 03/26/2012 1:07:21 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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