Skip to comments.In Trayvon Martin shooting, background of George Zimmerman can confound, confuse (expelled from CC)
Posted on 03/24/2012 5:31:07 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Needs to sue the school and the press once this is sorted out..
There are several working this to hype the racism side, hang Zimmerman and play the race card for poor widdle treyvon. The most insidious thing about this ‘work’ these stealth lefgtist/racists are doing is the exploitation of black people on pure deceitful emotion. Some are too stupid to see that the white democrat power bosses are manipulating this tragedy for political diversion purposes and to ‘ unify the black vote’ around lies and hate now being generated even on FR by the posters such as org.whodat, Alice in Obamaland, wtc911, just to name three of the agitprop provocateurs spinning the yarns to knit hate and mayhem for their little barry bastard’s re-election. One thing though, at least we can keep track of which of these stealth leftists are coming out of the woodwork on instruction from somewhere.
Post any Florida statute that was violated by Zimmerman, and the evidence released to the public that supports probable cause to conclude Zimmerman violated that statute.
So it's clear this isn't about believing Zimmerman broke any actual law, it's about people "feeling like" Zimmerman should be charged.
Very scary, if you ask me. If one is to call for someone to stand trial, should one not have a legal basis upon which to do so?
I hope none of those people end up on a jury. Ever.
Total agreement. There is no way, based on the evidence we have now, Mr Zimmerman can be convicted of any crime (and you hear it from one who’s not among Zimmerman’s defenders.)
Right. If this expelled, hooodie-wearing little rat was a "completely innocent kid," I'm the Archduke Ferdinand.
If you really mean you are glad he's dead, that is a sick thing to say.
It is entirely reasonable, and consistent with all known facts, to believe that Zimmerman acted in self-defense, even though Martin was a basically good kid, who certainly does not deserve to be dead. But he is dead, as a result of a tragic chain of events involving poor judgment by both parties.
Friends of both young men say they were friendly, decent, good people. That's the tragedy here.
I'm wondering if Trayvon had gotten into hormone supplements to bulk up, and his personality may have changed, making him more aggressive and less restrained. He was clearly much bigger than Zimmerman and it appears from the police data that Martin was the aggressor. Would we the public even hear of it now if Martin was found to have been using 'enhancement drugs' for his weight training? I mean, the irrational hatred Jackson, Obama, Sharpton, and a few swine posting at FR have generated blocks rational discussion and foments the hate democrat lsut for in order to keep racial tensions on their side of election numbers. Sad that no black people seem able to discern that manipulation.
You’re right as far as I know, now. Zimmerman never attempted to talk with Trayvon. This just adds more support to the conclusion Trayvon was freaked by Zimmerman and over reacted by punching him. The emotional tug remains that you can completely understand why Trayvon was freaked. Still, he had zero right to hit Zimmerman and that’s why I think in the end Zimmerman remains free...in spite of his ‘cop’ want to be over the top behavior. Again this is a complete tragedy.
By the way, I’m a white dude. Several yeasr ago I was 30 minutes early for a doctors appointment so, I decided to walk around the block a few times to kill time. On my third lap I was approacked by a hispanic man who wanted to know why I kept passing by the ‘daycare center’ so many times,
“Wow.” I thought. This guy suspects I might be a perve. And, even though I was mostly nervous about my appointment, I could see how I might have looked suspicious to him.
Still, I didn’t get all defensive and angry....and punch the dude square in the jaw. I simply thanked the dude for looking out for the neighborhood. No harm. No foul.
The fact is, we are still at a point in our society where a white dude like me is thankful neighbors are looking out for neighbors but, a black kid like Trayvon’s first impression is that Zimmerman was there to beat him down and felt so threatened he was compelled to violence.
Who knows why I look at the world differently than Trayvon? I do know that when Al Sharpton purposely turns it into a circus and President Obama strikes his ‘civil rights’ pose as if we’re all still living in the year 1812, this only stirs the pot further.....as opposed to helping all of us come to a better understanding of each other.
He was clearly much bigger than Zimmerman and it appears from the police data that Martin was the aggressor.
The police report lists Martin as 6'0" 160 pounds. This is likely only an estimate, but still indicates a young man who does not appear "bulked up." Zimmerman is listed at 5'9" and no weight entered. That's only three inches shorter than Martin.
There is only witness testimony to the fact that Martin appeared to be prevailing in the fight immediately before the shooting. There is no evidence I have seen (other than Zimmerman's account) that Martin was "the aggressor," and I think it is important to keep that in mind.
Nobody disputes that Martin was in the neighborhood legally, and was not engaged in any criminal acts when this chain of events began. It is entirely possible that at the time the witness saw the fight, both young men believed they were fighting for their lives.
By itself, that would not necessarily invalidate Zimmerman's claim of self-defense. Martin does not have to be a bad guy for Zimmerman to have felt threatened. It is quite clear that both of them had the opportunity to avoid a fight by simply talking to each other, and it is really tragic that they did not.
he had ambitions of being a aviator mechanic.
Welcome to FRee Republic n00bie...
OK now thats over...
Kid ya dont get to be an aviator mechanic by being suspended from school five days at a time...
Just what did lil Trayvon do to get his butt kicked out of school ???
,bottom line is trayvon was walking home minding his own business,
You dont know that you werent there...
And he wasnt walking home
he was going to the home of the girlfriend of his father...
he wasnt commiting a criminal act when zimmerman attacked him,
You dont know that you werent there
1. You dont know whether or not Martin was committing a crime
2. and you dont know who attacked who..
he was screaming for help trying to get away,
Did you sign up just to give a bias erroreous statement ???
It was Zimmerman who was “screaming for help” not your homie...
Martin was the one doing the attacking ..
he was screaming for help trying to get away,
Martin was not trying to get away
nobody was stopping him from leaving
he was on top of Zimmerman attacking him on the head etc
witnesses saw that part...
he didnt stop screaming until he got shot in the chest.
You mean he didnt stop beating Zimmerman until he got shot in the chest...
Martins voice is not on any recording screaming or begging for help but the voice of Zimmerman is...
Plus Martins father and other witnesses say it was not Martins voice..
Don’t expect an answer from her.
i heard the 911 audio recording u can hear him screaming for his life, it was horrible.
I sure it was horrible..
Zimmerman must have been afraid for his life have the much larger Martin beating him..
Yes Im sure Zimmerman had reason to scream for his life...
Clearly a case of self defense...
Zimmerman wanted to look like the hero so he shot trayvon so that there would only be one side of the story, HIS
Agswin you werent there...
You dont know that...
and according to witnesses that didnt happen...
They watched the whole thing...
You're right. Our society has been duped into enabling criminal behavior because being called "snitch" by a criminal has become widely accepted as being contemptible.
I wonder why you left out the physical evidence of injuries on Zimmerman?
Huh? I didn't "leave out" anything. I was just replying to your post to me speculating about steroid use by Martin, not trying to give an exhaustive account of everything that happened that night. You didn't mention Zimmerman's injuries, either. I welcome you to look at my posting history elsewhere on this topic. I can assure you I am quite well aware of a number of details and would much prefer that everybody offering opinions familiarize themselves with all the known facts, and I'm sure you agree with that.
I’m not “glad” he’s dead - I’m utterly indifferent. There’s a difference.
How many “good kids” get expelled from school? Especially these days. Odds are this kid would’ve wound up in a gang, jacking cars or otherwise wreaking havoc on decent people.
Maybe not, but the odds are in my favor.
“tardiness. Keep on spreading your false guesses.”
Post this AM at 12:35 says it was for ASSAULT on the bus driver. My instincts told me it was for something far more serious than tardiness. Are you telling me that the little angel travon might not have had a serious attitude problem that led to an assault on Zimmerman?
More information as time goes on. Sorry, I was reporting on an early report.