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Trayvon Martin Killing: Friend Tells ABC News Howls on 911 Tapes Belong to Zimmerman, Not Martin
ABC News ^ | Saturday March 24, 2012 | Matt Gutman and Olivia Katrandjian

Posted on 03/24/2012 9:51:42 PM PDT by kristinn

A friend of George Zimmerman, the man who shot unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin in Sanford, Fla., told ABC News today that the voice heard howling on the tape of a 911 call was Zimmerman's, not the teen's.

The man, a black friend of the family who spoke to Zimmerman tonight, told ABC News that Zimmerman was weeping for days after the shooting, which sparked protests across the country, and he insisted that Zimmerman, who is Hispanic, is not a racist.

"We wanted to come forward because allegations of racism just aren't true. His friends speak highly of him," said attorney Greg Sonner, who has been representing Zimmerman for two weeks.

Zimmerman's friend said that the howls heard on the 911 call, which helped galvanize the nation against Zimmerman, in fact belonged to Zimmerman, not Martin.

A witness who saw Martin on top of Zimmerman told ABC News the same: the pleas for help were Zimmerman's.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: georgezimmerman; investigation; lawsuit; sanford; standyourground; trayvonmartin
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1 posted on 03/24/2012 9:51:52 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: kristinn

I can’t wait for this to play out so the egg is on everyone’s face. It’s going to be delicious.


2 posted on 03/24/2012 9:53:32 PM PDT by TheZMan (Obama is without a doubt the worst President ever elected to these United States)
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To: kristinn

Gee, now just look what happens when there’s no rush to judgment.


4 posted on 03/24/2012 9:55:36 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Some "unifier" in the White House, huh)
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To: kristinn
voice heard howling on the tape of a 911 call was Zimmerman's, not the teen's.

Martin's father also said it wasn't his son yelling on that recording.

6 posted on 03/24/2012 9:57:13 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: gaijin
No question:

Bonfire of the Vanities

7 posted on 03/24/2012 9:57:25 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: 1066AD

And then he apparently said it was...


8 posted on 03/24/2012 9:58:35 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: TheZMan
I can’t wait for this to play out so the egg is on everyone’s face. It’s going to be delicious.

I think it past that..nobody wants to wait for facts now including some here...this may well end very badly

9 posted on 03/24/2012 9:58:48 PM PDT by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: kristinn

Shhhhhhhh.

We are not to know the truth, becasue the truth shall set us free, and it is now our path to not be free.


10 posted on 03/24/2012 9:59:48 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: kristinn
Obviously, Zimmerman should have wrote his assailant a check and said, "please may I have another", instead of blowing him away.

Nice country we are turning into.

This is what happens with Universal Suffrage.

11 posted on 03/24/2012 10:01:57 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Rick Santorum voted against Right toWork)
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To: kristinn
"the voice heard howling on the tape of a 911 call was Zimmerman's"

On McLaughlin Group tonight it was reported that this incident happened more than three weeks ago. That Zimmerman suffered head injuries and was bleeding profusely when police arrived. No wonder he wasn't arrested.

We see none of these reported injuries in the press.

There is more to the story than meets the MSM eye. One would suppose the chief knows the story, hasn't publicized it, and that the Rev. Sharpton types will end up with egg on their faces after fomenting some riots.

Hmmmm. Race riots don't have a very successful history down South do they?

So, what is the MSM's alternative to why Zimmerman got the hell beat out of him? Supposedly he profiled the kid, teased him into a fight. Anyway, the excuses are already being fabricated.

yitbos

12 posted on 03/24/2012 10:04:57 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: kristinn
Looks like the media is trying to backtrack on this one, now. Too late, buttheads, you and Obozo now have egg on your faces.
13 posted on 03/24/2012 10:11:38 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason (The Chicago Way isn't the American Way.)
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To: TheZMan

Truth doesn’t matter to them.

They need a crisis to exploit.


14 posted on 03/24/2012 10:11:48 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (We kneel to no prince but the Prince of Peace)
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To: bruinbirdman
Sharpton has a big mouth, is a degenerate communist scumbag, and obviously hasn't learned anything from the time he was stabbed by that retarded Guido with poor aim.

Good luck Al, you ain't as fat as you used to be.

15 posted on 03/24/2012 10:12:08 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Rick Santorum voted against Right toWork)
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To: bruinbirdman

They’re gonna need the dogs and firehoses when the Truth becomes known...


16 posted on 03/24/2012 10:12:38 PM PDT by imjimbo (The constitution SHOULD be our "gun permit")
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To: gaijin

Do we know for sure that picture is of Martin?


17 posted on 03/24/2012 10:16:21 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (The biggest Hate group in America is located in the White House, Congress & DOJ)
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To: kristinn

I sure don’t know the legal process...but doesn’t this have to go before the Grand Jury before charges are pressed? And wouldn’t it be irresponsible and possibly jeopardize the case for the police to release details until then?

I think if anyone needs to be locked up...it should be the media that is turning this into a circus.


19 posted on 03/24/2012 10:19:09 PM PDT by berdie
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To: 1066AD

During an interview with Anderson Cooper, the father said it was his son screaming and how heartbreaking it was to listen to his son’s last words. The two female roommates who seem hellbent on convicting Zimmerman before a trial, also insist it was the voice of a child. Anyone and everyone who heard the screams, insist this proves Martin was a helpless victim and not the aggressor. But mark my words, the same people who are citing the importance of it being Trayvon screaming, will be the same people saying it’s meaningless when it’s proven it was actually Zimmerman.


20 posted on 03/24/2012 10:21:31 PM PDT by Krankor (eenie meenie, chili beanie, the spirits are about to speak.)
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To: Outlaw Woman

I wonder. It doesn’t really look like him..even at an older age.

But I guess anything is possible.


21 posted on 03/24/2012 10:22:47 PM PDT by berdie
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To: Major Matt Mason
"Obozo now have egg on your faces. "

The polls drive funnycars. They're driving The Obammunist into a wall.

This story is a giant diversion away from the economy, Republican primaries, and Hussein's poll nosedive.

It is manufactured.

Expect some bogus, racial or otherwise surreptitious diversion ever other week or so 'til the Socialist convention.

yitbos

22 posted on 03/24/2012 10:24:17 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: bruinbirdman
On McLaughlin Group tonight it was reported that this incident happened more than three weeks ago. That Zimmerman suffered head injuries and was bleeding profusely when police arrived.

It occurred the evening of February 26th. The police observed he was bleeding from his nose and a cut on the back of his head. Paramedics attended to him on the scene. His attorney stated later that his nose was broken and the cut on the back required stitches.

No wonder he wasn't arrested.

While it is technically true that Zimmerman was not "arrested," those reports are very misleading. He was immediately handcuffed, taken into custody, and driven downtown for questioning. His gun was placed into evidence, and is still in the Police Departments possession, as are Zimmerman's clothes from that night.

All of these facts would surprise many people who have only read the media narrative, and most people would associate being handcuffed and taken into custody with "arrest" even if it technically was not an arrest.

Yet all of these facts are publicly available to anybody who is interested.

23 posted on 03/24/2012 10:24:33 PM PDT by PhatHead
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To: Krankor

“saying it is meaningless”

Absolutely correct.


24 posted on 03/24/2012 10:25:14 PM PDT by berdie
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To: Krankor
Whoever people think it sounded like is irrelevant. An eyewitness saw and heard the fight, and says it was Zimmerman screaming for help. This was reported the day after the shooting.
25 posted on 03/24/2012 10:27:10 PM PDT by PhatHead
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To: gaijin; Outlaw Woman
I assume you're prepared to vouch for the provenance of this part of your collage:


26 posted on 03/24/2012 10:29:05 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: PhatHead

“He was sitting on the porch and this man killed him.”

Huh? This thing sure has been changed a lot hasn’t it.


27 posted on 03/24/2012 10:30:21 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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To: kristinn

I’m betting that Zimmerman will be tried before Maj Hasan, the muslim terrorist that killed thirteen innocent American soldiers at Ft. Hood over two years ago.


28 posted on 03/24/2012 10:30:32 PM PDT by matthew fuller (A patriotic American would be ASHAMED to have 5 non-veteran adult sons.)
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To: berdie

Actually it does, but it helps to see the photo of him modeling his gold teeth, because that picture shows him in between his football jersey years and that pic you are questioning.

In the gold teeth pic, you can see his prominent chin, the nose is the same, the faint moustache is the same, eyebrows are also the same.

There are also multiple other pics showing Martin living the thug life taken from his facebook page, including him flashing gang signs and pics of with with gang language added to them by him.

I would post them for you to see, but as I said to another, we are not to know the truth.

Not even here.


29 posted on 03/24/2012 10:41:12 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: berdie
"I sure don’t know the legal process...but doesn’t this have to go before the Grand Jury before charges are pressed? "

In many parts of the country, if the District Attorney decides to file charges, he can do so without going to a Grand Jury. I suspect this is the case in Sanford. I guess the District Attorney could still go to the grand jury, but that would like telling them that he doesn't trust his own judgement to review a case, and he would rather that they take on the responsibility. If there is some compelling new information that comes forth that casts doubt on Zimmerman's account of the incident, then the District Attorney can still file charges. I would have to believe that the statute of limitations doesn't expire for a long time in this case, depending on what would be charged.

It's anyone's guess what can happen if the Feds get involved, but they may have to also conclude that based on the evidence, Zimmerman's statement, and the statement of the eyewitness that there are no grounds for filing a criminal complaint. So far, I think that the most likely course of action that is going to be taken is for Martin's relatives to file a civil suit against Zimmerman.

30 posted on 03/24/2012 10:41:37 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: kristinn

To paraphrase the one it seems that ole Treyvon made the mistake of taking only his fists to a gunfight. He should have listened to his messiah.


31 posted on 03/24/2012 10:41:53 PM PDT by Jay Redhawk
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To: Brad's Gramma

I’m going to cut the dad a little slack, being interviewed within hours of learning that his son was dead. He didn’t witness anything, and didn’t claim to.

And given that the report says Mr. Martin was Trayvon’s mother, I think it’s safe to assume that his statements, likely very emotional, were not completely accurately transcribed.


32 posted on 03/24/2012 10:42:16 PM PDT by PhatHead
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To: cynwoody

Wny don’t you ask your media why they don’t EVER show any pics of martin past the 9th grade...

Perhaps you should ask the Miami Herald why the photo of him in his hoodie was altered to make him lighter skinned.

Or you can remain in the dark. Choice is yours.


33 posted on 03/24/2012 10:44:11 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: TheZMan
The race perps won't let any egg get on their face. If it turns out that Zimmerman was indeed attacked the whole affair will simply disappear from the news and never more be acknowledged by the mob. Like the Tawana Brawley hoax, it will become a non-event.
34 posted on 03/24/2012 10:44:21 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: bruinbirdman

http://www.sanfordfl.gov/index.html

A pretty good source: the Sanford Police.


35 posted on 03/24/2012 10:44:38 PM PDT by Ingtar
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To: Enterprise
So far, I think that the most likely course of action that is going to be taken is for Martin's relatives to file a civil suit against Zimmerman.

Which may proe pointless. As a FReeper pointed out yesterday, the Florida "stand your ground" law explicitly exempts the defender from any civil damages.

36 posted on 03/24/2012 10:48:44 PM PDT by okie01
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To: berdie
Yes, respect for due process means officials and lawyers should be circumspect in their statements. The mob wants blood, though, which is why so many yahoos are raising the hue and cry for a lynching.
37 posted on 03/24/2012 10:48:58 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Enterprise

Ha! Martin’s attorneys will go after the Sanford police department. Zimmerman has no money


38 posted on 03/24/2012 10:49:53 PM PDT by Krankor (eenie meenie, chili beanie, the spirits are about to speak.)
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To: Krankor
Were these girls who claim to be witnesses Black?
39 posted on 03/24/2012 10:51:34 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: kristinn

Too late Soros,

You have now created the largest new political alliance between Whites and Hispanics that care.

Rubio!


40 posted on 03/24/2012 10:53:04 PM PDT by NoLibZone (When will Obama call Trayvon's mom? He was quick to call Sandra Fluke.)
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To: PhatHead
Being taken in to custody and released after making a statement is a far cry from being arrested. The Chief of Police said in a statement that there was no legal basis for Zimmerman to be arrested, and that's why he was not.
41 posted on 03/24/2012 10:55:12 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: okie01
And the author of that "stand your ground" law says? It doesn't apply. The authors of Florida's controversial "stand your ground" self-defense law say George Zimmerman should probably be arrested for shooting Trayvon Martin, reports the Miami Herald. "He has no protection under my law," former Sen. Durell Peaden told the newspaper. "The guy lost his defense right then," Peaden told the Miami Herald. "When he said 'I'm following him,' he lost his defense." Rep. Dennis Baxley, Peaden's co-sponsor in the Florida House, agrees with his former colleague, telling the newspaper that the law does not license neighborhood watch or others who feel "like they have the authority to pursue and confront people. That is aggravating an incident right there." Both co-sponsors told the newspaper, however, that they did not think the law needed to be re-examined.

"If you want to pass something, pass something that limits their ability to pursue and confront people," Baxley said. "It's about crime watch," he said. "What are the limitations of crime watch? Are you allowed to jump out and follow people and confront them? What do you think is going to happen? That's where it starts."

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57401619-504083/author-of-stand-your-ground-law-george-zimmerman-should-probably-be-arrested-for-killing-trayvon-martin/

42 posted on 03/24/2012 11:00:00 PM PDT by anglian
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To: chris37; gaijin
Wny don’t you ask your media

My media?

I was asking about gaijin's media, not mine. I'm sure he has an authoritative response.

Perhaps you should ask the Miami Herald why the photo of him in his hoodie was altered to make him lighter skinned.

I think you need to show us the respective hoodie pictures, establish where each came from, and in what sequence. And you also need to explain the significance of the albedo delta you allege.

43 posted on 03/24/2012 11:00:00 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: hinckley buzzard
Being taken in to custody and released after making a statement is a far cry from being arrested. The Chief of Police said in a statement that there was no legal basis for Zimmerman to be arrested, and that's why he was not.

Yes, I understand that.

What is disturbing to me is that the flippant statement, repeated in most media accounts, that "Zimmerman was not arrested" gives the impression that police brushed off their hands, gave Zimmerman a friendly wave, and everybody called it a night. That is not what happened, and I think if most casual followers of the story were aware that he was cuffed and driven downtown while other officers and paramedics tried to revive Martin, they might have a different impression of that evening's events.

The police took him into custody, took away his gun (and still have it, contrary to many media reports,) roped off the scene for evidence collection, canvassed the neighborhood and took witness statements that night and in subsequent days, and have conducted lab work on physical evidence (not yet released to the public.)

"He was not arrested" has become some sort of shorthand for "the police didn't care why the black kid was dead and just took the white guy's word for it."

I maintain a healthy skepticism about law enforcement and official reports, but I also respect the fact that, despite mistakes, most of them try to do a good job, and I just haven't seen any evidence that they did not try to do that here.

44 posted on 03/24/2012 11:04:58 PM PDT by PhatHead
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To: Ingtar
"A pretty good source: the Sanford Police."

And those sources are disseminated. Danke

yitbos

45 posted on 03/24/2012 11:10:23 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: kristinn

If this turns out to be self defense, the media will just make this whole thing disappear. They won’t mention it anymore, kind of like they stopped talking about Sandra Fluke, they saw that her 15 min were up and had to move on to something else to divert attention from Obama’s failed policies. Zimmerman has been treated horribly, Richard Jewel style, maybe even worse then that. The death threats, the celebrities tweeting asking for this guy’s head on a platter. Once its proven that Zimmerman acted in self defense and that Martin was the aggressor, maybe they will stop showing pics of Martin as a 12 year old boy all cute and cuddly and show him in the present day, the way he REALLY looked, a 6’2 inch football player who was beating the holy hell out of Zimmerman


46 posted on 03/24/2012 11:12:43 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: PhilDragoo

Zimmerman friend ping.


47 posted on 03/24/2012 11:13:05 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: cynwoody

I don't even know if that's the same kid in the other photo. Lighting and shadow distorts everything.

That aside, Mr. Martin certainly had a face similar to George Foreman.

48 posted on 03/24/2012 11:13:16 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: Krankor

I would tell them good luck suing the police department. They won’t get anything out of them either.


49 posted on 03/24/2012 11:18:15 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: berdie; cynwoody; gaijin; little jeremiah

I’ve been reading that it is from a FB account belonging to a Trayvon Martin but that the FB account has been scrubbed now.

We know that Martin looked different from the pic the media and all the race baiters have been floating around. That pic is only missing a little halo and wings. But the kid was now 17 years old and anyone who has raised kids know they morph during that time. I’m not seeing a whole lot of similar features but like I said, they literally morph during these years.

I’d sure like to know for sure and yes, a certain judgement can be made about ‘looks’. Just ask the bloods and crypts in LA.


50 posted on 03/24/2012 11:19:42 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (The biggest Hate group in America is located in the White House, Congress & DOJ)
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