Skip to comments.Trayvon Martin Killing: Friend Tells ABC News Howls on 911 Tapes Belong to Zimmerman, Not Martin
Posted on 03/24/2012 9:51:42 PM PDT by kristinn
A friend of George Zimmerman, the man who shot unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin in Sanford, Fla., told ABC News today that the voice heard howling on the tape of a 911 call was Zimmerman's, not the teen's.
The man, a black friend of the family who spoke to Zimmerman tonight, told ABC News that Zimmerman was weeping for days after the shooting, which sparked protests across the country, and he insisted that Zimmerman, who is Hispanic, is not a racist.
"We wanted to come forward because allegations of racism just aren't true. His friends speak highly of him," said attorney Greg Sonner, who has been representing Zimmerman for two weeks.
Zimmerman's friend said that the howls heard on the 911 call, which helped galvanize the nation against Zimmerman, in fact belonged to Zimmerman, not Martin.
A witness who saw Martin on top of Zimmerman told ABC News the same: the pleas for help were Zimmerman's.
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You have evidently seen pictures I have not. I don’t doubt that there are more that may bear a greater resemblance to Martin that may present him in a different light.
I certainly don’t doubt you, but how did you see them?
Yet there are those, including Zimmerman’s attorney and the author of the law, who say this does not qualify as a “stand your ground” case. It is a case of self defense.
Thank you for the explanation.
I agree. This is far different than what is being portrayed in the msm. I’ll go out on a limb here and say “I don’t know what happened and I’ll wait for the facts” and I can also see 2 non-bad guys making slightly bad decisions and it snowballing out of control or something else entirely.
The only thing that I am sure of is that this is being used by the administration and the left to foment racial discord and possibly violence in hopes of influencing the Nov election.
I don't even know if that's the same kid in the other photo. Lighting and shadow distorts everything.
I did find the first and third pic by searching including his middle name (or nickname). I wanted to see what he really looked like vs what the Stormfront nazis and others with an illegitimate agenda were alleging he looked like.
I also found this photobucket pic, under the userid trayvonslimmmartin:
He seems to have a kinda Mr. Spock thing going on with his eyebrows in that pic.
Would if I could.
Freerepublic took down the thread that contained the link to the Herald’s story on the doctored hoodie photo.
And by “your media” I mean the one that has apparently pushed you into saying-
“Alas, Martin was not up to snuff on his situational awareness and self-defense skills. Perhaps, if he had been, he’d be still alive, and the village would be short an idiot, shot by his own gun!”
That was a really messed up thing to say, man.
But setting that aside, don’t you find it the least bit odd that the only pictures of Martin being shown are of him as a boy?
Do you honestly believe that the boy shown in those pictures took down a 200lbs grown man, mounted him and held the mount solidy enough to smash his face and head, make him scream for help, and then resort to fatally shooting him?
Do you honestly believe that a adult 28 year old male could not sweep that boy in a jersey out of the mount?
You are aware that Martin had a facebook page, right? Do you suppose that the only pics on that page were the football jersey pics of him as a kid? Why have the pics on his facebook page been removed?
I’m sorry, but I am not stupid enough to buy that bulldozer load full of BS, cnywoody, and you shouldn’t buy it either.
Handcuffed and taken in for questioning certainly meeets the common-sense definition of arrest.Let a citizen hancuff someone and take them forcibly to another location for interviewing and the SWHTF ! Handcuffs make a mockery out of any claim Zimmerman was not arrested.
I’d say Zimmerman was arrested and then released with no charges filed at this time.
I hadn’t seen or heard that, thanks and I get your point too.
There’s been a composite image file posted on FR showing a smarter dressed Zimmerman vs a rougher looking Martin. Anyone know the source ? Google throws up a zillion images but not that one so to be fair we need a source for it to see if it’s real or a fabrication.
They were posted here last night on FR all over the place, then they were scrubbed by this morning.
I have them on my hard drive.
You need to see the one of him showing his gold teeth, which is right next to one of him still as a child proving they are of the same person, then compare that one to the one where he looks like a straight thug, and you will see that it is him. Chin, lips, moustache, nose and eyebrows are the same. He has a very distinct face.
Well, that may turn out to be bad for Obama, but also bad for Zimmerman, because quite a few conservatives, including Beck, Santorum, Lowry (NRO) and many others have jumped on the "Zimmerman must be prosecuted" bandwagon.
That may blunt any potential political gain for Obama, but it does not serve justice.
Obama already has the race-baiters' votes. The majority, who hate both injustice and racism, are not going to blame Republicans for not caring, but they might blame Obama for any riots.
I don't have photoshop skills but would like to see a side by side with one of the posted pics.
Alright, excellent cnywoody. Those are the exact same gold teeth and pattern as the pic I have which is different than the one you have posted.
Chin, lips, faint moustache, nose, and eyebrows are all very distinct IMO.
somewhere in America a black man chooses a white woman to rape...something white men almost never do in reverse
or they find a white person to rob and often kill in the process
or just to beat the snot out of for nothing
their rate of violence towards whites is so much higher than the reverse it's basically incalculable
black on white crime has been an epidemic and has resulted in white deaths which dwarf everything from the time black slaves first arrived here in sheer numbers
yet no one talks about it...period...except some of us here and white supremacist or separatist groups
nobody...Newt hit it a bit...good for him
we are experiencing an ingrained black on white crime wave entrenched for generations and promoted by the culture and whites just deny it, suffer it, or whisper about it...scared
whether or not Zimmerman was wrong doesn't matter to me anymore
I want white people to wake up and grow some balls...those few of us willing to say it out loud can't do it by ourselves
and yes...that means you freepers who don't live with it like we do and judge us for it
course...lower white culture has become black pretty much...behavior wise and illegitimate births and mixing
it's a big agenda admittedly...i doubt we can retrieve everything at this point
They didn’t see anything, and she’s a human behaviorist and knows what exactly will cause a human to start and stop crying/yelling!
Listen to this, a call from a witness to dispatch. It is blood curdling , the screams are believed to be that of Zimmerman fighting for his life over possession of the weapon.
The Police don’t want to talk to her because her story doesn’t add up.
This was a life and death battle, that is no child crying for help!
That was a really messed up thing to say, man.
Well, given that Zimmerman was the aggressor, unjustified, I have to say, the outcome was suboptimal.
Optimum, obviously, would be, it never happened. But the actual outcome was undoubtedly pessimal.
I cannot agree that Zimmerman was the aggressor based upon some accounts that I have heard that Zimmerman was returning to his vehicle, had broken off any sort of pursuit when he was suddenly attacked by Martin.
However, there is no way for me to be sure of that at this time of course.
But yeah, it would have been so very much better had this not have happened...what an unbelievable mess.
Sadly, it has become very plain to me that the media of this country, including conservative media, is driving this full speed, including using outright deception, while other forces are intentionally whipping people into a murderous frenzy, and on top of all that you have a president trying to make this about himself with his idiotic statement.
I have never seen anything like this in my entire life.
I’m just going to stick with what I said last evening- what a pathetic illustration of our society this entire debacle is.
Don’t we have some kind of weird technology at hand we could use to know for sure...oh, I dunno...maybe like _voice analysis_?
Yeah, but he is desperate and can’t run on his record so he needs something. It is disappointing that so many so called “conservatives” have drunk the Kool aid but, then again, I turned them off a while ago. I do hope Santorum wises up.
That is frightening and it’s obviously no child. Zimmerman sounds terrified. Once it’s proven to be him, you won’t hear any more about it.
I’m betting there has to be some kind of technology. But the really strange thing, Trayvon’s parents have to know that’s not their son screaming. I think it’s come to the point they’ll say or do anything to get Zimmerman.
My eyes tell me that these are differing images. The last one makes him appear much lighter, his eyebrows are thinner, and his moustache is fainter. If you google "Trayvon Martin hoodie, the image from the herald will also pop up in which he appears much darker, however the link to the story is 404, but yet the pic remains in google. These images will self destruct before I wake up tomorrow morning.
Yeah, sad thing is that I’m afraid to agree with you on an open forum ‘cause it may come back to haunt me. Oh well. We can at least remember the names: Ryan Hacke, Channon Christian, Christopher Newsom, Susan Best, Jill Creighton, Dana Plakis, Arron Land, Brian Muha, Valerie Johnson, Andrea Nance, Jason Befort, Aaron Sander, Heather Muller, Brad Heyka, Ron Demorest, Tyler Douglass, Kevin Cecil, Jack Cotter...just to name a few.
So far, the only source I've seen for that version is Zimmerman himself.
All the other accounts come in mid-battle, after Martin had achieved superiority and before Zimmerman invoked the nuclear option. There is no independent witness as to who initiated the violence.
The guilty or not guilty verdict depends on who started the violent confrontation. Given the evidence so far, I think, if I were on the jury, I'd have to walk Zimmerman, albeit reluctantly. It comes down to the difference between "preponderance" and "beyond a reasonable doubt".
ABC news is finally reporting the facts that were available almost a month ago that help Zimmerman after they and their Corrupt Media cohorts have fanned the flames into a National Lynch Mob.
Maybe they realized that they will come out eventually and now are just trying to CYA to limit the damage that they have done to their credibility with the sheeple.
I was thinking about those stupid hoodies today....and how can we stop the kids from wearing them???!!??
All middle age women (and men if you care to join in)...and older folk too....start wearing them.
All. The. Time.
Sure way to get rid of THAT fad....
Sounds like an older man yelling, not a kid, to me.
We were on the way to Tractor & Supply one afternoon and a ruckus started on the sidewalk.
A gang of girls of color had come out of KMart, where they’d fled from the McDonald’s employees whom they’d just assaulted.
While in KMart they decided to shoplift some stuff and were followed out by store security as the cops were already called and coming.
Suddenly more cops than I’ve seen in one place all swooped in and leapt out of their cars.
By this time, we were enthralled by what was going down.
The cops asked them standard questions about the complaints against them and the girls were the most foul mouthed belligerent bunch of ‘young ladies’ I’ve ever seen.
After about 10 minutes of this psycho-circus, one of the girls attacked the officer who was questioning her.
I don’t mean “slapped”; I mean full bore punching, kicking and scratching.
Bless his heart, he stayed calm and the other officers helped him get her cuffed and into the cruiser.
They then rounded up the rest of the pack and put them in the other cars.
A few minutes passed and a black woman came roaring up in her car, jumped out and started screaming at the top of her lungs.
[arbitrary racist/excessive force/profiling jazz]
She came up to us and asked if we’d seen any police brutality.
Hubby said “Sure did. One big vicious rip went really brutal on a cop.”
Apparently that was her daughter because she really let loose with a barrage of her vile opinion of us.
We gave our statements to the cops, along with the other 20 or so witnesses who were watching and they were still screaming, kicking and shrieking in the cruisers when we left.
If I’d ever acted that way towards LEOs, my dad would’ve crucified me, himself.
I wear one...but it’s from Hot Topic and is gray with black, screaming skulls all over it.
[it kinda matches my sneakers]
I don’t think I’ll give an opinion at this point.
Pictures are so manipulated in this day and time. But these seem to resemble Martin more than some of the others.
There is no doubt, however, that the picture of the young Martin is being presented to create sympathy. Of course he was more mature when this all took place.
The original hoodies!!
(And a really good movie)
I’m waiting for a photo where he’s wearing a Boy Scout uniform and helping a blind kitten cross the street.
[Mike Tyson has a “baby face” too and he can mess people up real good]
Gramps wears one when his ears get cold. :)
A boring gray color.
He looks like a dork, proving my theory of how to get rid of the fad. :)
I’m going with black. BLACK!
Excellent flick...*far* superior to the warm & fuzzy “I Am Legend” remake.
Heston ~still~ rules.
Maybe, but why would an unarmed kid attack a guy with a firearm? Sorry but that is extremely implausible.
Get a 9mm and you too can be a self-appointed member of your local Neighborhood Hoodie Watch Program and violate all of the central tenets of the Neighborhood Watch Program policies like Zimmerman!
Hubby wears black ones.
Makes him look like a Satanist.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm..............I’d rather Gramps looks like a dork than that alternative. ;)
He had a CC license.
Has anyone testified that he showed the weapon prior to being beaten?
Different strokes, I reckon....
[it's even worse now than he has long goatee that he often braids]
Wait until you hear Trayvon’s girlfriend. She’s not what you’d call an eloquent speaker.
I would rather hear chalkboards mating, thanks.
Oh for Pete’s sake, he does NOT look evil! He’s just having a great time chopping off your head.