Skip to comments.Expected Louisiana Win May Be a Hollow Victory for Santorum.
Posted on 03/24/2012 10:36:07 PM PDT by true believer forever
Rick Santorum is likely to win Louisianas Saturday primary but a victory there wont help him much, say Republican strategists.
Winning Louisiana does nothing in the grand scheme of things, said GOP strategist Tyler Harber. It wont give a huge boost of support to Rick Santorum. Winning these contests isnt as important. Its now about winning the delegates.
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Or atleast exhibit a minimum of good manners...
The GOP-e doesnt care if we win.
They just care that its them, particularly, who are in charge of the party.
Theyre control freaks.
The really interesting thing is, that Mark Levin has often said critical things about Boehner and McConnell, mostly when they committed very specific missteps due to lack of courage and ineptness. But a couple times this week, he has had actually started saying we need to get rid of boehner and mcconnell. That is a departure for him, and I think it might be stemming from how the gop is showing their true colors more and more with each passing day...
Guest lineups for todays TV interview news programs:
ABCS THIS WEEK: White House adviser David Plouffe; Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn.
NBCS MEET THE PRESS: Plouffe; Gov. Brian Schweitzer, D-Mont.; former Gov. Haley Barbour, R-Miss.; Ben Jealous, president and CEO of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.
CBS FACE THE NATION: Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis.
CNNS STATE OF THE UNION: Plouffe; Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.; Gov. Rick Scott, R-Fla.
FOX NEWS SUNDAY: Ryan; Plouffe.
Source: The Associated Press
HAVE A GREAT SUNDAY, EVERYBODY!!
Usually posts directed at the author of the piece are posted in reply to the first post. If you posted the article, then they’ll come to you, whether directed at you personally or the author. Just saying.
When Romney adviser Eric Fehrnstrom said, “Everything changes [after the primary]. It’s almost like an Etch A Sketch. You can kind of shake it up and we start all over again,” the wind let out of the Romney sails. Romney had better start watching his money or he will be a dollar short if he comes up against Zer0.
You seem to be one sick hombre. Once again I ask you - did God tell you differently? When did you last confer with Him regarding Rick Santorum’s political career?
One day, you will stand in front of God and be judged for your life, thoughts and deeds. If you don’t believe this - then you have a 50/50 chance of being wrong, don’t you? Not very good odds, IMO. However, I believe from your post that you think that people who claim to hear from God are mentally ill, or retarded. Yes, that was in reference to your sheltered workshop statement. Shame on you!!
Oh, another delusional Newt supporter. Look - your guy doesn’t have a prayer of winning the nomination. I’ve met some very nice Newt supporters, unfortunately, you aren’t one of them.
Your hatred for Rick is shining through. And, yes, Rick can do just as good a job as Newt.
So, stop stalking me. Your ignorance is showing.
You guys jumped on the Rick train because he won a some races.. that doesn't make him qualified to get us out of the mess we are in.. All these Rick supporters do, is take away votes from the real leader in the pack... not to mention Mitt's horrible attacks on newt from the gitgo..
There were two people I could vote for in the primary.. One was Perry, who is Head and shoulders of above little saint ricky,
The other is Newt who, intellectually head and shoulders above them all....
Might be shocking news to you, but Newt didn’t invent conservatism.
Proof the American people have lost the ability to reason.
They choose the Whining Novice over a Statesman.
“Newt was his mentor. It is really sad to see, and even sadder how the people who follow him think he is this saint or something. that is the really sad part. He told his followers at a Colorado rally, “God called me to do this” - this kind of religious fervor is a very dangerous thing. Like one freeper said, santorum doesn’t seem to understand, when govt opens the door to one religion’s beliefs, it also swings the other way, given time. This is a big mess, simply because Santorum has nothing to offer as a candidate other than his behavioral goodness. “
Well, said. I dislike Santorum as much as I dislike Romney. He’s a second-string candidate who few people would have supported if he didn’t seem like the only viable anti-Romney candidate left.
... not that I believe there IS a viable anti-Romney candidate left.
Ouch - the pressure of buoying your guy up must be spreading - so many of you are displaying an uncivility not seen before. Just demeans FR when we stoop to coarse one-liners.
Apparently winning blue states that Romney will NEVER win in the General is more important. The GOP is as stupid as the Democrats. I can’t believe how idiotic this primary is. I am not saying that I think Santorum should win it because Newt would be fine too, but since when is winning Illinois more important to Republicans than Louisiana. Dumb GOP! That is a very accurate statement IMHO.
If you are waiting for the malicious Santorum clique to begin acting like Christians, my only advice is, don’t hold your breath.
Hey that is not fair. I think both sides are acting fine. Every Santorum supporter does not want Romney as our candidate. It seems the Newt supporters are ok with it as long as it is ABO. We are not ready for that.
It's all about the MONEY, and the Republican Establishment Elite's determination to get their "Chosen One", even though America doesn't want him.
We're in for 4 more years of Obama, or Obama-Lite (Romney-the-RINO).
“When I was speaker, we balanced the budget for four years,
By raiding the Social Security Trust. How nice of him. If I had a huge chunk of money to take, even I could balance the budget.
ouch,way to slap the Newtereds,,that one will leave a mark.
Just down the road from me in St. Martinville, is the gravestone of one Jefferson Deblanc, a Cajun USMC fighter pilot from WWII who is also a winner of the MOH. He, and countless others put everything on the line for my right to vote and to ensure my vote counted for something. Those who would argue otherwise aren't fit to shine the man's shoes.
Before you post such ignorant drivel you may want to read his MOH citation. People like Colonel Deblanc, that is to say, the people who have made America great, don't look at the numbers or the odds and give up. In fact, they openly defy them and make a difference in doing so. The same kind of apathetic, whiners now telling Rick he has no chance would have looked at then 1LT Deblanc back in the early days of the Pacific War, flying his battered Hellcat against a swarm of Zeroes and Oscars and told him he didn't have chance, either.
You may not be familiar with the concept, but free people can be full of surprises.
I was talking about the general. Mittens’ strategy has been to knock off his opponents through driving up their negatives. Unfortunately people respond to negative ads, and because no one has the money to return the favor to Mittens on the same scale as his ad buys, Mittens has managed some very weak plurality wins. He obviously needed to go negative against Newt and Santorum to “win” in Florida, Ohio, and Michigan.
Let’s wait and see!
And exactly how many delegates does he earn with that straw poll?
Beautiful reply! Your words inspire me to go out, defy the odds, and make a difference. Thank you, Joe, and go Rick, GO!
The nominating proces is broken and it must be changed so states that voted for the GOP candidate in the last election have greater significance the next time around.
Romney is leading the delegate count BUT the only states that he has won that backed John McCain in 2008 are...
...Alaska, Idaho, Arizona and Wyoming.
OTOH, Rick Santorum & Newt Gingrich have 9 wins in states that voted with McCain in 2008.
In the last two week, Romney has increased his lead in delegates with wins in Illinois, Virgin islands,Guam & Puerto Rico. Despite Rick Santorum winning Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana!
Think about this for a minute. Does anybody really think that the GOP candidate will win Illinois in 2012???
I am hoping for a brokered convention because I will not vote for Mitt. And I haven’t missed an election in over 20 years!
Rule 11: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, polarize it. - Saul Alinsky
I suppose you think you are somehow being astute or smart by posting your Alinsky comments, which, is basically Alinskying me... but we won't get into that. I post from my heart, have never read an Alinsky book in my life, which doesn't seem to be the case for you... If you want to support your candidate, learn to engage in thoughtful political discourse with your own thoughts and feelings... without throwing around some tired rules that you seem to subscribe to... had an IQ test lately?
What you fail to see is my hatred to lies is shining through. Rick being is in that fold - that's his problem - Mitt in it, also. as the GOP E and media.
So, stop stalking me. Your ignorance is showing.
Your paranoid is showing. I don't even know you - and SHOW ME where I ever stalk you to back up your accusation I'm stalking you.
LIARS are always into flattering themselves while 'trying' to smear another in their self righteous mode!
You need to understand something, I never say a single belittling thing to anyone until they have said it to me first, and even then, I oftentimes don’t respond because I understand how people sometimes get carried away in the midst of discussions.
You are very supportive of Santorum, and I am not really certain you’re not a Santorum supporter.
You have never once engaged me in the content of things I have said or offered in discussion, just your little jibes and comments. And by summing up my comments as mere Alinsky tactics you are trying to rob them of any meaningfulness.. nice try.
I purposely put the IQ remark in to satisfy your expectations of me, nothing more... and you took the bait.
You understand, don't you, that you are describing Newt's supporters, of which I am one, who have stayed with him through great great odds. We are working towards our third resurrection now. I am from a military family, you don't need to tell me anything about the sacrifice of our military, nor how they are suffering under their diminution by this administration... I didn't post ignorant drivel, I posted an opinion shared by many in the conservative media, and others, with about the same number disagreeing with it... of course, supporting Santorum, you are unable to fairly evaluate two sides of an argument... it's your way or the highway.
Yep, that’s me....I fell for that bait.
Truebelieverforever, I have never seen so many smarmy, nasty threads before the santorum bashing threads came along a few weeks ago. I guess the mods are fine with it....... so be it. I get on these threads from time to time when I see just plain nuttiness or over the top ridicule. They are always bashing Santorum. It is not vetting; it does nothing to further a disussion or understanding....it merely shuts down one side of the conversation.
IMO, it is below FR standards....but that’s just me.
When I started posting on this forum for Newt, I would post links to his Contract for America 2012, excertps from his writings, outlines of his promised policies on all the major issues confronting America today, titles of his book, his other works. All content, all quality, backed up sometimes by 2 and 3 different links, to allow for people’s desire to read according to length or detail. I posted vids of Newt for those who didn’t like to read.
and what did I get back from Santorum supporters? serial adulterer, open marriage, resigned in disgrace, and every other nasty thing they could come up with. Never any discourse, never any discussion on the merits of the content I had posted. Just like you, crying the victim card, the newt supporters are so nasty and smarmy, and Rick is just perfect.
I am not like the timid Queensbury-rules GOP establishment. I gave it a long heartfelt try, and then just decided to give back as good as I got.
I don’t feel bad about it. I feel like I tried my best, only Santorum supporters aren’t interested in any kind of quality discussion. I even defended rick a couple times, when he was taken to task by Gingrich supporters for taking his dead baby home, and fully taken out of context in one thing he said.
I have grown weary of people like you saying it’s newt supporters who are ugly and nasty and smarmy. Santorum supporters think they have cornered the market on morality because their candidate presents himself as one “called by God”, and because of that anyone who questions Santorum’s superiority as a candidate is questioning the only good man in the race. I don’t subscribe to that.
Now have at me with the usual Sanctimonium superiority, and victimization card. FYI, I don’t think I have lowered the standards on Free Republic, but that’s just me.
Now, you have resorted to ad hominem attacks.
I repeat - stop stalking me. You are the liar here - now, shoo - go away - go play with your voodoo dolls or something.
No, i didn’t jump on the Rick train because he won a few races. Perry was my guy, and after him, I stayed neutral, pulling for both Newt and Rick. However, I’m also a realist - Newt is done - his ego won’t permit him to acknowledge this fact, however,
Sometimes, the president has to be a team player - otherwise, he’d be a dictator. What screwed up ideas some people have. Most all presidents have advisers, and that’s why they have them- to help make tough decisions.
Newt may be “more intellectual,” but, gosh darn it - obama was supposed to be so smart, and look at us now.
Smart and common sense don’t necessarily go hand-in-hand.
I’m sick of people calling Mr.Santorum, little saint Ricky. How about we coin a few phrases for Newt? You won’t like them should I decide to get into the name calling thing. But, I choose not to at this point. This isn’t a playground, or is it? It seems to be for some on here.
You need to prove that or stop maligning people, and making malicious statements, while playing the above-it-all victim. All your concern about the santorum threads, and lowering the standards at FR, have you ever checked out any of the Newt-bashing threads... even one? because, in my estimation, there have been maybe twice as many as those. And there's no comparison to Santorum supporters when it comes to maligning others. Where's your concern for the ugly things that have been said about Newt and his supporters, and his wife? Vile doesn't even come close to it. This selective outrage is really too much. I used to take it seriously and examine myself in case I was at fault, and there were times I made apologies. But now I see it for what it is..
You keep coming back with more of your nonsense and your ATTENTION SEEKING tactics! GROW UP!
True believer forever, lol, you are cracking me up (and I’m not being “snotty”). I give up.
I am glad you find my feelings and convictions a joke, I accept that. I am from a military family, that has endured their share of sacrifice for this beloved country. I count integrity and honor the gold standard by which men and women should live their lives. You sorely minimized that. I took a whole lot of flak quietly and hurtfully before speaking up for myself against Santorum supporters.
NONE of this is a joke to me. the survival of my country is at stake. I work long hours at my job, and then long hours for Newt, helping and giving everything I can, because I believe in acting on your principles. Glad to know I gave you a chuckle though.
Hon, you are reading things I’m not writing. I gave up in my last post. I wasn’t being facetious when I wrote lol.
Relax. I can’t minimize anything in your life from the other side of the screen. Only you can do that.
Chill, smell the roses (okay, they’re not in bloom yet), smell the lilacs. Try being a little nicer. I realize you get more online or FReeper responses by being controversial or hard-edged, but really, is it worth it?
It isn’t for me. That’s why I said I give up.
Relax. I cant minimize anything in your life from the other side of the screen. Only you can do that.
Chill, smell the roses (okay, theyre not in bloom yet), smell the lilacs. Try being a little nicer. I realize you get more online or FReeper responses by being controversial or hard-edged, but really, is it worth it?
It isnt for me. Thats why I said I give up.
RE "Try being a little nicer." Okay, just because you sound like you have a soft heart, and are wise, to boot, I will try that again... If I get pummeled, I am going back to take no prisoners...
Thank you very much for your insights. I am a little high strung I am told, and take things too seriously. Working on that.
HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY - YOU DESERVE IT!
When you point your finger - you have 3 pointing right back at you. Take the beam out of your own eye, before trying to remove one from others. (judge not)