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George Zimmerman May Face Hate Crime Charge for Florida Killing
Fox News Latino ^ | 3/26/2012

Posted on 03/26/2012 3:08:53 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

The Justice Department may bring a hate crime charge against the man who shot and killed black teenager Trayvon Martin if more evidence surfaces indicating the shooter action's were motivated by racial bias, legal experts and former prosecutors say...

"It sounds pretty obvious to me," said Donald Tibbs, a Drexel University law professor who has closely studied race, civil rights and criminal procedure. "If that was a racial epithet that preceded the attack on Trayvon Martin, we definitely have a hate crime."

(Excerpt) Read more at latino.foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: georgezimmerman; hatecrime; race; trayvonmartin
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The lynch mob continues marching. Duke Lacrosse, anyone?
1 posted on 03/26/2012 3:09:01 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

I listened and not even my best imaginative juices heard what people are suggesting he said.


2 posted on 03/26/2012 3:14:55 AM PDT by greatvikingone
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To: SoFloFreeper

They don’t even know if race had anything to do with it. They’re fueling a race war, that’s all.


3 posted on 03/26/2012 3:22:05 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The right thing is not always the popular thing)
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To: SoFloFreeper

“It sounds pretty obvious to me,” said Donald Tibbs, a Drexel University law professor
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But it doesn’t to a lot of other people. Back in the mid 1980’s, I was having a super special diner out at a Benihana restaurant. It was roughly a 45 minute drive into a major city. It was a big night on the town. So, we’re sitting at a tepanaki table with a black cardiologist from the Cleveland Clinic, and my brother-in-law just happened to be a very highly respected cardiologist in the area. My husband and I were having a wonderful dinner and conversation at the table. A black waiter leaned in and whispered in my ear, “I heard you call me a nigger. I’m going to get you.” I was absolutely devastated and wanted to leave immediately. There was no way to defend myself from the accusation. He might as well as physically beaten me up. That word has never been part of my vocabulary. I guess if you want to hear something, you will. Is this a good point to segue into “Paul is dead?”


4 posted on 03/26/2012 3:22:17 AM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
So the Bolsheviks come out with ThoughtCrime when they can't make real charges stick.

Remember what happened to these two kids?

Not one of these "people" were charged with a "hate crime".

Gosh, where's Al Sharpton when you need him? An Injustice to rectify!

Oh Wait...Only one group of humanity is capable of "hate crimes"....all others are beyond Virtuous.

5 posted on 03/26/2012 3:28:26 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: SoFloFreeper
This is where it's going to get real ugly. Pulling these faint sounds from the tape, which arguably are unintelligible, is like reaching in and pulling out your still beating heart and holding it your hand and saying, there, I have found the essence of the person, and it is vile, which in turn will become symbolic of it's kind.

These people, are pure evil. They will do anything and say anything.

Prepare for the spectacle of Hanging chad 2, and of all places, Florida.

6 posted on 03/26/2012 3:28:32 AM PDT by csense
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To: csense

Yes, very evil. They are attempting to ignite a race war, making a self-fulfilling prophecy by igniting it and then pretending they are there to “fix things”.

This is like a Reichstag Fire moment.

There was no telling what Bammy will twist this year to try to stay as Golfer-in-Chief.


7 posted on 03/26/2012 3:33:49 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/../2012/03/the_empathizer-in-chief_needs_to_do_some_serious_soul-searching.html


8 posted on 03/26/2012 3:36:00 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Add Tawanna Brawley(sp?) to that list!


9 posted on 03/26/2012 3:36:08 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: SoFloFreeper

First I’ve heard of an epithet thrown...are they making this up as they go along? /s


10 posted on 03/26/2012 3:38:36 AM PDT by SueRae (Tale of 2 Towers - First, Isengaard (GOP-e), then, the Tower of Sauron on 11.06.2012)
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To: F15Eagle

It’s already ignited. Just that nobody has counted the dead for what they are, yet.


11 posted on 03/26/2012 3:39:00 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (nobody gives me warheads anyway))
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To: SoFloFreeper

These people are now becoming desperate, deadly desperate, the meme, the story is starting to fall apart in many ways and the only way out for them is to constantly Rev up their rhetoric. And tell me what will happen if the succeed and Mr. Zimmerman is “lynched” figuratively or literally?

I believe that somehow it will become the Republicans or the Conservatives fault, because “feelings” always overcome reason and “common Sense”. And of course the other possibility I see is a “race war” but where will that end up? Between the blacks and hispanics or will it be black and white?

Does it matter even to the “powers that be” in the long/short run? My take on that is ‘NO’. All that matters is that there be disruption of any sort to take away attention for what really ails this country. And that is the Corrupted Politicians and their hangers-on and their enablers/backers that profit from it.


12 posted on 03/26/2012 3:39:10 AM PDT by The Working Man (No child left behind should be: No Child left a dime.)
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To: Renegade
“Reverend” Sharpton in both places, saying essentially the same things.
13 posted on 03/26/2012 3:41:31 AM PDT by Pecos (O.K., joke's over. Time to bring back the Constitution.)
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To: pops88

“a Benihana restaurant.”

On Chagrin Blvd.?


14 posted on 03/26/2012 3:41:35 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Lemmie see now.............

Iffen they’s pounding the living sh*t out of your face.....

It’s STILL ILLEGAL to hate them??

REALLY?


15 posted on 03/26/2012 3:44:30 AM PDT by Flintlock (Photo ID for ALL voting. Let our dead rest in peace!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Dr. Tibbs’s research interest include Black Power Legal History; African American Intellectual History; Comparative Black Nationalism; Critical Race Theory; and Race and Punishment.

http://www.sulc.edu/faculty/tibbs.htm

Another Commie.


16 posted on 03/26/2012 3:45:11 AM PDT by Herbster
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To: SueRae

They say it is at the 2:21 of the call Zimmerman made. He says f***ing ????? ...I have tried and tried and I can’t make it out.


18 posted on 03/26/2012 3:47:59 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

“a Benihana restaurant.”

On Chagrin Blvd.?
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There was only one Benihanna restaurant in Cleveland at the time, but I wasn’t driving. Chagrin Blvd. would have certainly been close to University Circle to run into a doctor from the Cleveland Clinic. I do know that as an RN working at University Hospitals at the time it wasn’t very far away.


19 posted on 03/26/2012 3:48:55 AM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth.)
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To: arbooz

Wouldn’t that be Pussy Ass Tortilla?

Or is it to Blacks, everyone looks the same?


20 posted on 03/26/2012 3:50:03 AM PDT by wolfcreek (‘closed eye’ mentality is the reason for our current reality)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Little Trayvon felt disrespected. That far outweighs whatever happens to someone named “Zimmer-Man” (As Rev. Al kept calling him.) Name guilt. No other facts need apply!


21 posted on 03/26/2012 3:51:09 AM PDT by LRS ("This is silly! It can't be! It can't be!!" "Oh yes it is! I said you wouldn't know the joint.")
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To: Irenic

They say it is at the 2:21 of the call Zimmerman made. He says f***ing ????? ...I have tried and tried and I can’t make it out.
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And I have listened to Elton John’s song over and over, and there is no way you can convince me that “hold me closer, Tony Danza” is actually “hold me closer, tiny dancer.”


22 posted on 03/26/2012 3:52:55 AM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth.)
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To: pops88

And I have listened to Elton John’s song over and over, and there is no way you can convince me that “hold me closer, Tony Danza” is actually “hold me closer, tiny dancer.”
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Hopefully everyone understood that was a mondegreen joke. People will hear what they want to hear.


23 posted on 03/26/2012 3:57:50 AM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

This is where I thought this case would end up, the Feds on a witchhunt.


24 posted on 03/26/2012 4:00:07 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words!-Sam Adams)
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To: SueRae

There is some wind or other noise in Call 1 in the 911 call list on the Sandord web page on this event that some are interpreting as George Zimmerman saying “effing coon” under his breath.

It is a stretch, but these people are out to create a racial incident.


25 posted on 03/26/2012 4:05:38 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Although there must be some agenda, I cannot for the life of me figure out why the Dems would want to incite an African American/Peruvian American conflict. Seems to me that the Latino vote would be of great importance in the upcoming election, as the African American vote is already theirs. Will be interesting if the South American and Mexican (Hispanic/Latino) leaders weigh in on this if they haven’t already. Why is Zimmerman being portrayed as a “Cracker”? I have to be missing something somewhere. Things that make you go Hmmmmmmmmmm


26 posted on 03/26/2012 4:09:52 AM PDT by Chance Hart
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To: SoFloFreeper

Well now we have heard from the legal department of the Black Panthers.

Donald “Call me Mr. Tibbs” a black law Professor has spoken.

Not that he is racist in any way, he has just spent his life
looking at the black side of Civil Rights law and propagating his own form of racism.

Hey Donald. Not biased are you? LMAO


27 posted on 03/26/2012 4:11:46 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: pops88

hahahahahaha! That’s good!

When I was a teen I got into a HUGE fight with a fella over a song. It was the Eagles—Take it to the Limit— I insisted it was *put me on the highway*... he insisted it was *p***y on the highway*.

Looking back...I think he enjoyed aggravating me. ugh


28 posted on 03/26/2012 4:11:53 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: SoFloFreeper

First thing, before elevation to a hate crime, is was there any crime whatsoever committed, and right now, it looks like there probably wasn’t.


29 posted on 03/26/2012 4:16:43 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: SoFloFreeper
In order to have hate crime, you must first have a crime.

There is simply no evidence whatsoever of any crime here.

And that is what Sharpton is implicitly admitting:

"Any time you have a pattern of engagement based on someone's having a particular group in mind, that qualifies for hate crime inquiry," Sharpton told The Associated Press

This is frightening and Orwellian. It is repugnant to the entire spirit of Anglo-Saxon justice and to United States Constitution. Whatever happened to the presumption of innocence? The despicable behavior of the press, especially the talking heads on the Sunday shows, demonstrates the real danger these hate crime laws pose to law-abiding Americans.

God help us if Rev. Sharpton can try us on what he thinks we think.


30 posted on 03/26/2012 4:17:03 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: pops88
A member of my family was an employee at the local university and the only white in the office. They were accused of using the N word and, immediately fired. Fortunately someone in a position to do came to their defense and was able to go an other department. You are right one only has to be accused.

I would be careful where you eat out these days. Remember Jessie Jackson brags about spitting in whites food.

31 posted on 03/26/2012 4:22:01 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Never happen—if the Liberal Democrats charge a Latino with a “hate crime” they can kiss that voting bloc good-bye.
32 posted on 03/26/2012 4:26:38 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("Rick or Mitt take your pick.")
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To: wolfcreek

Isn’t Obama one half CRACKER? Hmmmmm!


33 posted on 03/26/2012 4:27:58 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: F15Eagle

“There was no telling what Bammy will twist this year to try to stay as Golfer-in-Chief.”

How about a complete meltdown of the EBT card system on 11:59pm Oct. 31, 2012? That gives a good six days of rioting before election day; plenty of time to “suspend” voting indefinitely.


34 posted on 03/26/2012 4:28:04 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: SoFloFreeper

Black hatred of white culture provoked the attack on Zimmerman and resulted in the Boy’s death. Trayvon erred in justice by brutally attacking the wrong man.


35 posted on 03/26/2012 4:32:56 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: arbooz

He’s too redneck to know what a dip he is, eh? Or would he be a urbanneck?

Up North they’re all a bunch of backwards racist urbannecks, ya know. Yo...http://www.lyricspond.com/artist-kurupt/lyrics-hos-a-housewife (warning that is x-rated)

If you are black you can say whatever and get rich singing whatever the hell you want.

You’re white— you’re down as racist, if lucky...otherwise it’s a hate crime, baby.


36 posted on 03/26/2012 4:33:34 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: FreedomPoster

If you must use deadly force to defend yourself, any verbal outburst is pretty much acceptable, and of no consequence,I would think.
If Mr Zimmerman is acquitted of any wrongdoing, and yet some kind of trumped up “hate” charge is brought against him, then it is time to give these fools the war the think they want IMHO.


37 posted on 03/26/2012 4:37:03 AM PDT by Quickgun (Second Amendment. The only one you can put your hands on.)
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To: Chance Hart

When the race-baiters started on this thing, they probably looked at the last name “Zimmerman” and decided that its owner was a non-Hispanic white, probably of German or Jewish descent.

Like many other people in Florida, Zimmerman in fact is from a family that has both Hispanic and non-Hispanic members. Calling him a “cracker,” however, is going a little far...but that’s what they want to see in this.

Finally, blacks and Hispanics have little in common. Outside of certain inner city gang areas, Hispanics are just like any immigrant group, learning the language, acclimatizing and getting ahead, and they also tend to value family and church. Lower class black culture, on the other hand, creates people who aren’t going anywhere, and there’s a lot of hostility towards Hispanics on the part of blacks, who feel that they “deserve” to be given what Hispanics are actually working for.

So I think the race baiting contingent really doesn’t care what Zimmerman’s background is, just simply that he’s not black. Because if he had been black and shot this kid, it would simply have been just another day in the neighborhood and they wouldn’t have cared.


38 posted on 03/26/2012 4:48:56 AM PDT by livius
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To: Coldwater Creek

“You are right one only has to be accused.
I would be careful where you eat out these days. Remember Jessie Jackson brags about spitting in whites food.”

I’m glad the situation didn’t result in a horrible outcome for your relative. I seldom eat out, and that incident had a big impact on that.


39 posted on 03/26/2012 4:50:30 AM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Interesting source. Shame on the Latino community if they don’t start making some noise about this.


40 posted on 03/26/2012 4:55:55 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: SoFloFreeper

They are gonna find a way to burn this guy. Especially if they can engineer it so that things reach a fever pitch around 4 Nov.


41 posted on 03/26/2012 5:02:34 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: SoFloFreeper

But when blacks attack whites in unprovoked attacks, even though they are screaming racial slurs, the local cops and “liberals” say it is not a hate crime.

It happened in Portland, Oregon and Philadelphia recently.

14 year old white girl brutally beaten by black thugs caught on video. News broadcasters explain why it was NOT a hate crime about about 2:12 minutes into the video even though the black thugs were shouting racial slurs at their white victim

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-TJPh26ONA&feature=player_embedded

Obviously that is not the same standard the Feds use if whites use racial slurs attacking blacks:

http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2012/January/12-crt-072.html

Same denial of the civil rights of white victims of racist attacks in Philly as in Portland:

“College senior Brian Goldman and his cab driver were allegedly assaulted by three juveniles last Saturday. The three teens will not be charged with a hate crime, according to the Philadelphia District Attorney’s office.

The three black teens allegedly shouted racial slurs when they punched Goldman and his cab driver at 15th and Chestnut streets around 8:30 p.m.

However, there was no evidence that the race of the victims was a factor in the assault, according to the Philadelphia District Attorney’s Office.

“I fully support the DA’s decision, 100 percent,” Goldman, a Daily Pennsylvanian columnist, said.”

http://thedp.com/index.php/article/2012/02/penn_student_attacked_during_cab_ride


42 posted on 03/26/2012 5:07:05 AM PDT by Uncle Lonny
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To: nathanbedford

“In order to have hate crime, you must first have a crime.”

A crime, like the New Black Panther’s intimidation of white voters in Philly during the 2008 election?

By tossing that case, Eric Holder has endorsed state sponsored racism like the negro nazi that he is.


43 posted on 03/26/2012 5:42:55 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: nathanbedford
Whatever happened to the presumption of innocence?

The Sharptons of the world believe that all whites are guilty of racism. Except, of course, the ones who donate to their organizations.

44 posted on 03/26/2012 5:45:34 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Chance Hart
Probably didn't know he was a Latino or whatever before they planned the whole thing out.

They just heard the name, and that he was white, then they started planning around it. When they found out, it was too late to stop, everything was in the works.

45 posted on 03/26/2012 5:50:47 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: pops88

Agreed. In Jimmy Buffett’s song, Margaritaville, I am still wondering why he had to cruise on back home after stepping on a Pop Tart.


46 posted on 03/26/2012 5:52:47 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Chance Hart
Although there must be some agenda, I cannot for the life of me figure out why the Dems would want to incite an African American/Peruvian American conflict.

Actually, if Zimmerman's lawyer was smart he would get the guy's mom out there speaking in a heavily accented voice claiming her son was being unfairly attacked because he's hispanic. This whole thing wouold drop like a hot potato.

47 posted on 03/26/2012 5:52:47 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: nathanbedford
The beauty of that quote is that Sharpton perfectly characterizes himself.

No that the AP would notice.

48 posted on 03/26/2012 5:57:31 AM PDT by Blaine Fabin
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To: nathanbedford
The beauty of that quote is that Sharpton perfectly characterizes himself.

No that the AP would notice.

49 posted on 03/26/2012 5:57:32 AM PDT by Blaine Fabin
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To: Uncle Lonny

Also, Eric, “My People” Holder, Obama’s
black Attorney General has explicitly stated that white Americans, unless they are homosexual, are NOT PROTECTED by federal hate crime laws.He said this before the Senate Judiciary Committee on June 29,2009:

“Under questioning, Attorney Gen. Holder was surprisingly forthright in admitting that the hate bill is not intended to protect everyone, or even the majority. He said only historically oppressed minorities were to benefit. This means Jews, blacks, homosexuals, women, etc. Holder made it clear that if a white Christian male, including a serviceman or police officer, was the victim of a violent hate crime by any minority he would have to find redress from traditional law. He could not avail himself of the triple penalties and rapid government/justice system response given a protected minority.”

“Holder made it plain that he is seeking legal privileges for certain groups based on what he told Senator Sessions was

“the unfortunate history of our nation”.

Film can indeed tell more than the printed word. Anyone who reviews the comments and deliveries by Democratic Senators Feinstein(CA), Cardin (MD)and Schumer (NY)(c. 53 minutes, 79 minutes and 89 minutes) cannot doubt that, for them, this legislation is a stepping stone to criminalizing political opinion.

Feinstein actually cited the immigration debate as necessitating passing the Bill!”

http://www.vdare.com/posts/a-g-holder-no-hate-crime-protection-for-white-christians-or-servicemen

Why Republicans dont use Holders racist double standard to hammer Obama in this election year is beyond me. If they did and stuck to their guns, it would be a win/win situation. That blacks are violently attacking whites all the time is well known by a lot of whites despite the media blackout. This dam of well founded anger by whites could break with a national campaign by the Rs pointing out the injustice of Holders racist double standard while highlighting suppressed news stories of violent black on white attacks that should be punished by the hate crime laws.

But Holder was right about one thing, although for reasons opposite of what he meant. We truly are a “Nation of Cowards” when it comes to race


50 posted on 03/26/2012 6:00:23 AM PDT by Uncle Lonny
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