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Obama's disbelief after staring into N. Korea [Rampant naivety on display]
AFP/yahoo ^ | March 26, 2012 ? | Stephen Collinson

Posted on 03/26/2012 5:44:40 AM PDT by upchuck

After squinting through binoculars into a nation frozen in time, US President Barack Obama reeled off a contempt-laden and startlingly frank indictment of North Korea.

The Stalinist remnant of the Cold War was, in Obama's eyes, nothing but a nation which cannot make "anything of any use", "doesn't work", and even its vaunted weapons exports were hardly state of the art.

"It is like you are in a time warp," Obama said Sunday, after he toured a rocky border post in the demilitarised buffer zone that has split the Korean peninsular for longer than he has been alive.

"It is like you are looking across 50 years into a country that has missed 40 years or 50 years of progress," Obama marvelled later...

...he seemed unable to process the logic of three generations of leaders who had kept their people imprisoned, impoverished and in thrall to successive personality cults.

"If a country can't feed its people effectively, if it can't make anything of any use to anybody, if it has no exports other than weapons and even those aren't ones that in any way would be considered state of the art.

"If it can't deliver on any indicators of well-being... for its people... then you'd think you'd want to try something different," Obama said in a highly undiplomatic and unusually frank public appearance.

"There are certain things that just don't work and what they are doing doesn't work."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: communism; dprk; fascism; marxism; nkorea; northkorea; obama; obamanorthkorea; socialism; tyranny
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"There are certain things that just don't work and what they are doing doesn't work."

How ironic. He describes his regime.

1 posted on 03/26/2012 5:44:47 AM PDT by upchuck
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To: upchuck

“It is like you are looking across 50 years into a country that has missed 40 years or 50 years of progress”

because they’ve lived the system that you [0bama] want to impose on us, you assclown.


2 posted on 03/26/2012 5:47:37 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: MrB
““It is like you are looking across 50 years into a country that has missed 40 years or 50 years of progress”

because they’ve lived the system that you [0bama] want to impose on us, you assclown.”

Thank you. This succinctly encapsulates the entire problem with this Presidency.

3 posted on 03/26/2012 5:51:20 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: upchuck

Imagine his surprise if he actually spent a night without the Secret Service, his armored caravan, millionaire donors, or Air Force One in the projects of the democrat republic of Chicago, Detroit, or even DC


4 posted on 03/26/2012 5:52:08 AM PDT by silverleaf (Funny how all the people who are for abortion are already born)
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To: upchuck
[Rampant naivety on display]

Any Christmas decorations as well?

5 posted on 03/26/2012 5:52:17 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: MrB

This. It’s not like the time warp took him to the past, it took him to what this country will look like in the future under his policies. The only reason California isn’t there now is that they’re standing on the shoulders of giants.


6 posted on 03/26/2012 5:52:59 AM PDT by hometoroost (Frodo lives!)
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To: upchuck

They used to say that a neoconservative was a liberal who was mugged by reality. Obama has just been mugged by reality. I doubt that it will move him one bit.


7 posted on 03/26/2012 5:53:12 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: upchuck

Wondering if Obama will be caught on a hot mic saying to South Korea to not do anything until after the election when he will have more flexibility..........just wondering out loud


8 posted on 03/26/2012 5:53:45 AM PDT by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: upchuck

9 posted on 03/26/2012 5:54:34 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit ;-{)
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To: Daveinyork

Totalitarian Communism doesn’t work Mr. President ?

Gee..who knew ?

(Not him).


10 posted on 03/26/2012 5:56:27 AM PDT by Col Frank Slade
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To: Col Frank Slade

How many millions of dollars have been take from the American people and given to N Korea? Did you think they were state of the art?


11 posted on 03/26/2012 5:58:56 AM PDT by edcoil (It is not over until I win.)
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To: upchuck

Hey Obama - Socialism and other forms of tyranny DO NOT WORK.

Is this your first hint of that?


12 posted on 03/26/2012 5:58:56 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: MrB

Someone should tell him that this is what 50 years of “progressivism” gets you.


13 posted on 03/26/2012 5:59:52 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: upchuck

Is this “The Onion?”

Marxist or stupid? Looks like the answer is both.


14 posted on 03/26/2012 5:59:52 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey)
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To: upchuck
North Korea considered him a joke yesterday. Ronald Reagan did not need any bullet proof glass up at Guard Post Collier 29 years ago. This individual Obama did. They know he is disdained and not respected by the North as a paper tiger, and they would catch absolutely no hell at all from a pussy President Biden if something happened. They know that if President Reagan would have been hurt, there would have been absolute hell to pay by President George Bush who would bomb Pyongyang back into the stone age.

My favorite Reagan line for when he visited the same areas Obongo went up to the other day, Camp Liberty Bell to be exact. Obama is incapable of this inspiration and sincerity. The troops know it, too! Check this:

"It's an honor for me to be with you. And as you see, this morning, the first thing when I got here, somebody made sure that I would be dressed in what the well-dressed man, American, is wearing, and I'm very proud to have that. Somebody asked me if I'd be safe up here so close to North Korean troops, and I said, ``I'll be with the 2d Infantry Division.'' " (rousing cheers)....I have never been as proud as I am right now and from what I've seen here. And I know that in spite of what I said about our people back home, I'm not sure that very many of them realize that you aren't just sitting here doing some kind of garrison duty. And I'm going to do everything I can to make sure that the folks back home know what you really are doing. So, soldiers of the 2d Infantry Division, God bless you, and God bless America. Thank you." -- Ronald Reagan, South Korea, November 1983

15 posted on 03/26/2012 6:00:33 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Feigning past support for a candidate (w/no posting history of it), then suddenly "withdrawing it"?)
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To: upchuck

Just sayin'.

16 posted on 03/26/2012 6:01:59 AM PDT by Maceman (Liberals' only problem with American slavery is that the slaves were privately owned.)
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To: upchuck

It’s leftwing Utopia over there, including the at least 150,000 political prisoners in the most harsh concentration camps the world has ever seen.


17 posted on 03/26/2012 6:01:59 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Utah Binger

Uh, North Korea doesn’t celebrate Christmas.


18 posted on 03/26/2012 6:03:45 AM PDT by upchuck (Need is not an acceptable lifestyle choice; dependent is not a career. ~ Dr. Tim Nerenz)
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To: upchuck
“The greatest guilt of today is that of people who accept collectivism by moral default; the people who seek protection from the necessity of taking a stand, by refusing to admit to themselves the nature of that which they are accepting; the people who support plans specifically designed to achieve serfdom, but hide behind the empty assertion that they are lovers of freedom, with no concrete meaning attached to the word; the people who believe that the content of ideas need not be examined, that principles need not be defined, and that facts can be eliminated by keeping one's eyes shut. They expect, when they find themselves in a world of bloody ruins and concentration camps, to escape moral responsibility by wailing: "But I didn't mean this!” ― Ayn Rand
19 posted on 03/26/2012 6:05:01 AM PDT by Maceman (Liberals' only problem with American slavery is that the slaves were privately owned.)
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To: upchuck
"There are certain things that just don't work and what they are doing doesn't work."

Obama -- "hmmm...how can I bring their success to the US?"

20 posted on 03/26/2012 6:05:33 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: upchuck
All socialists/communists are downright stupid!

.... anything of any use to anybody....

This could describe the idiot nation killer ensconsed in the White Hut.

21 posted on 03/26/2012 6:07:23 AM PDT by IbJensen (We now have a government requiring citizens prove they are insured but not that they are citizens.)
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To: Daveinyork

——I doubt that it will move him one bit.——

It will be different here, because Obama and his fellow “intellectuals” will be in charge.

When Russian friends of ours asked us why liberals are hell-bent on socialism, I tell them what Ted Kennedy said, that it will be different when they’re in charge.

The Russians just shook their heads in disbelief.


22 posted on 03/26/2012 6:08:09 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey)
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To: upchuck

If it can’t deliver on any indicators of well-being... for its people... then you’d think you’d want to try something different

Just wow.....You think that you could mabey apply that idea over here in America?? IDIOT in Chief


23 posted on 03/26/2012 6:14:02 AM PDT by jakerobins
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
When Russian friends of ours asked us why liberals are hell-bent on socialism, I tell them what Ted Kennedy said, that it will be different when they’re in charge.

I seem to remember someone in the Clinton administration commenting that the only reason Communism failed in Russia was because "the wrong people were in charge"

24 posted on 03/26/2012 6:17:01 AM PDT by NRA1995 (I'll cling to my religion and guns till they're pried from my cold dead fingers!)
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To: upchuck
This is a false flag meant to lead the American (and international) public to believe that Obama would not want to steer our country in N. Korea's same totalianistic government form.

He is proclaiming to the world that he is observing that such oppression is WRONG.

Of course it's just the opposite. He is evil to do this. He is evil, period.

25 posted on 03/26/2012 6:20:05 AM PDT by Miss Behave (All ways, always.)
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To: upchuck; LucyT; Fred Nerks

Yes, when Obama looked into North Korea, he was looking into a mirror of his Obama regime’s trajectory.

We MUST stop him before our nation begins an irretrievable descent into darkness.

This is surrealistic pot calling the kettle black.


26 posted on 03/26/2012 6:22:03 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascist info.. http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: upchuck

http://www.faithfreedom.org/obama.html


27 posted on 03/26/2012 6:23:27 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascist info.. http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: MrB
“It is like you are looking across 50 years into a country that has missed 40 years or 50 years of progress”

because they’ve lived the system that you [0bama] want to impose on us, you assclown.

There is a dangerous human tendency to want to cash in on our "investment" in society to live the good life today. If you force oil companies or drug companies to sell their products at little or no profit, there won't be any new innovations. Its true that, say, modern drugs and lifesaving techniques cost a lot. But ones that were developed 10 or 20 years ago are now cheap. And 10 or 20 years from now, today's drugs and lifesaving techniques will be cheap. Same with pretty much any technology. Today's American "poor" live better than the middle class of probably 2/3rds of the rest of the world, all because of Capitalism.

Yet Obama wants to tear it all down. He wants everyone to have the best technology and best of everything today, so the companies and the rich should simply give it to the poor. That is how you end up like North Korea -- by ending innovation. Its not "dictatorship" as Obama suggested. While dictatorship is bad, some dictatorships encouraged capitalism and flourished. Think of China in the 80s, Chile in the 70s and, for that matter, most of Europe in the 1800s.

Its Communism and Obama's Socialism that will lead to stagnation of living standards, not dictatorship.

28 posted on 03/26/2012 6:33:11 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: upchuck
Obama wants us and the rest of the free world to think that if he ever did believe in totalinarianism prior, he now, upon physical observation of such, has been enlightened.

How would Obama be able to really see, in merely looking through binoculars from afar, that their basic government model is so flawed as to cause him to make such a "profound" all-encompasing proclamation?

It just doesn't otherwise make sense.

He is purposefully trying to point us all in the opposite direction of his true, core feelings/beliefs.

29 posted on 03/26/2012 6:36:38 AM PDT by Miss Behave (All ways, always.)
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To: upchuck

“If a country can’t feed its people effectively”

A glimpse into how his mind works.


30 posted on 03/26/2012 6:41:50 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Maceman

The last 3 years of the Obama regime are eerily similar to Ayn Rand’s “Atlas Shrugged”. The trains to nowhere. The government grab for power at our expense.

All we need now is the death machine (I think that’s already through beta testing) and a general strike by all working non government dependent Americans.


31 posted on 03/26/2012 6:49:55 AM PDT by snafubar
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To: upchuck

I bet the N. Koreans have free health care, though. Other than having such a dynamic, god-like leader, what more could you want?


32 posted on 03/26/2012 6:58:23 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: upchuck

Obama has no concern about North Korea. He doesn’t see it as a negative example nor a problem.

I am absolutely certain his view is: their problem with socialism is, they don’t have Barack Obama.


33 posted on 03/26/2012 6:58:46 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: upchuck

He’s too stupid to see that is what he is doing to the US.


34 posted on 03/26/2012 7:00:12 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

If is wasn’t true, it would be hilarious.


35 posted on 03/26/2012 7:03:50 AM PDT by baileybat
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To: upchuck

obama probably is of the belief that communism is a worker’s paradise, like so many of his fellow travelers and his media. None of these usefull idiots have ever seen the effects of communism up close and personal.


36 posted on 03/26/2012 7:14:43 AM PDT by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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To: upchuck

I think there is nothing like seeing something first hand.

I went to Russia in 1994, it it’s early transition from being the USSR. It made a committed capitalist out of me! Up to that time, I liked my country and democracy, but I thought, “Oh, why can’t we all get along?” Why did Reagan seem so spooked when he had been President, finding Communism a dire threat lurking behind every bush?

Then I saw what a crazy, depressing place that central planning had produced, with weird rules and ugly, deteriorating, results. It’s the only country I’ve ever visited that I have been relieved to leave.

Reagan was right, a nation that re-divides the economic pie without growing it, is not just a different way to live. It’s a horror from which free people should run screaming.

I hope this truly made an impression on Obama, but he will probably see it as the result of decades of personal dictatorship only, and not the whole centrally planned system of communism.


37 posted on 03/26/2012 7:39:25 AM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: upchuck
The microphones cut off before they could capture his follow-up remark: "If only they had built high-speed rail ..."
38 posted on 03/26/2012 7:42:38 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Steyn: "If Greece has been knocking back the ouzo, we're face down in the vat.")
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To: upchuck

Every word is calculated, Obama is beginning to make his great transformation to a Centrist, just in time for the election....do not be fooled.


39 posted on 03/26/2012 7:44:39 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: upchuck

Gee, it send to be working for those in charge. Why would those with the power and benefits of the power want to change?


40 posted on 03/26/2012 7:45:53 AM PDT by vpintheak (Occupy your Brain!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
"There are certain things that just don't work and what they are doing doesn't work."

"Obviously, they just don't have the right people in charge of everything."

41 posted on 03/26/2012 7:46:22 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Unfortunately no, he’s not.


42 posted on 03/26/2012 7:50:19 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: upchuck
"It is like you are looking across 50 years into a country that has missed 40 years or 50 years of progress," Obama marvelled later...

Something informed American citizens have known for many decades.

Which explains why Obama The Clueless Illegal is surprised with his new-found information.


43 posted on 03/26/2012 7:50:26 AM PDT by Iron Munro (If Repubs paid as much attention to Rush as the Dem's do, we wouldn't be in this mess)
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To: married21
I hope this truly made an impression on Obama

Even if it made an impression, it won't be the impression you want. He would never be humble enough to even consider he may be wrong; the narcissist in him will think he can do it "better".

44 posted on 03/26/2012 8:03:49 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (Barack has a memory like a steel trap; it's a gift ~ Michelle Obama)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

“The Russians just shook their heads in disbelief.”

Right. Those uncouth Ruskis couldn’t even do communism right. Our liberals can do it so much better.


45 posted on 03/26/2012 8:12:30 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: upchuck

ABO 2012


46 posted on 03/26/2012 8:28:35 AM PDT by jesseam
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To: Maceman

I love that quote. Rand was a prophet.


47 posted on 03/26/2012 8:33:47 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: upchuck

Is Obama giving the Chinese line on North Korea? Interesting.


48 posted on 03/26/2012 8:44:43 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrat-Media Complex - buried stories and distorted facts... freeper 'andrew' Breitbart)
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To: upchuck
It's the same thing we heard from the Soviets and Chinese in the '50's and '60's against each other.

All he's saying is that N. Korea just isn't doing it right. He and his ilk REALLY know how to do Communism.

49 posted on 03/26/2012 9:05:07 AM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: upchuck
"There are certain things that just don't work and what they are doing doesn't work."

It's a good thing we've got "The One" to do it for us, otherwise it could become just as bad here. Of course, it will take more than two terms for him to perfect utopia here.

50 posted on 03/26/2012 9:08:18 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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