Skip to comments.Obama's birth certificate may be forgery (Voice of Russia)
Posted on 03/26/2012 12:17:39 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
Interview with Joe Arpaio, Sheriff of Maricopa County, Arizona, US.
Start from the beginning, why is this cold case squad that you had look at the Presidents birth certificate and what do they come up with?
Well, first of all we have about 3 000 party members, have a cold case party, they worked for nothing, they are ex-cops and attorneys. And I decided when the Tea Party, about 250, asked me to investigate the Presidents birth certificate and I decided to give it to the cold case party so not to cost tax-payers any money. They started the investigation and obviously I gave instructions to do everything they can to clear the President on this issue. But as they dug into the investigation they came up with some evidence which tends to probably indicate that the birth certificate and the selective service form could be forgeries.
So, a lot of people have heard about this controversy before and theyve also heard about document examiners and experts in this field saying that this long form birth certificate is legitimate. What do you say to the people who say you are just digging up something that have already been refuted?
Well, I dont know, refuted by whom? There has never been a law enforcing agency looking into this matter. So, you can get all these opinions from different so called experts but we looked at it and our people feel, Im not going to get in all the technical details, but it is a computerized initiated birth certificate.
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Media blackout on Obama eligibility near-total
Putin may be holding this over Zero’s head as a bargaining chip. That is why Obamugabe was asking for ‘more time’, like a late payment to a mafia collector...........
Medvedev: OK comrade, give us the AMB codes, and we won’t reveal the birth certificate copies
Obama: Just give me some space, after the election, I’ll have more room to maneuver
bump for later
Hillary will get right on this.
All these news outlets have nothing but contempt for their audiences.
Who would have ever thought, that Russia would have better news reporting than the U.S.?
There needs to be a congressional investigation of this black out, who has been threatened and with what, and who is making the blackout decisions, and how much foriegn influence there is.
It’s on congress, or the FBI, to start investigations, Sheriff Joe can only do so much. And Boehner should be getting on it right away....
There is absolutely nothing that will be done about this Obama birth certificate thing and I dont care if it is Obama admitting publicly that he is not a US citizen. UNLESS, America is ready for a real race war and ready ro raise arms because that is what it would be. If we think the Martin/Zimmerman deal is a mess, imagine what would happen if anyone attempted to impeach or remove the beloved black man from office. Forget it.
CCG - now THAT’s a mental picture I didn’t need...
The Russians WANT us to rebel, so they can invade during the ensuing confusion.
Don’t fall for it. Just pray for Obama, and our Congressmen.
Obama’s birth certificate may be a forgery . . . and Obama may be a fraud.
Yes you are correct. Let him get voted out.
Yep. You know Zero is blackmailable.
“May be” is nice speech for is, but not wanting to say it. People who want to eat this turd and call it a chocolate bar are free to do so, but they should just say they prefer eating the turd to telling the truth. Obozo has provided us with two, not one, but two, fraudulent BCs, and a fraudulently obtained SS#, and most likely, a fraudulent draft card. Based on the little bit of information we have on him, it is safe to say that his life is likely riddled with fraud, probably enough to send him to jail for a very long time.
You can’t vote out a USURPER. He’s not in the office legally.
He is a squatter. Why you think he will leave if he is not elected is mind boggling. He hasn’t respect the Constitution thus far and election fraud of the past will look like child’s play in 2012.
Keep your head in the sand. This problem is not going away. Just like Hitler wasn’t going to be appeased. It only gets worse not better.
It’s The Chicago Way..............
Yeah, let’s just give Poland to Hitler. Then everything will be alright. He will go away then. No riots to worry about.
He would need to use force to continue squatting after losing the election. The military won't support him, nor many governers (with the exception of governors like Deval Patrick, of course). There would even be opposition from some democrats, who wouldn't appreciate him blocking their personal political aspirations.
You can be sure that Russia, China, and fortunately Israel have thick dossiers on Obama, including the seedier stuff that would get an American killed for looking into.
Election fraud. Though I would not put anything past Obama with regards to violence from his Acorn buddies.
“The military won’t support him,”
You mean the military that is currently following order from a usurper and most likely an illegal alien?
“nor many governers”
I don’t see those Governors saying or doing anything to stop the current lawlessness going on. Hell, they won’t even keep him off the ballot until he shows some real qualifications for the office.
Governments lie. It’s what they do. Aided and abetted by the media who have an unholy alliance with the government.
I used to listen to Radio Moscow on a shortwave radio when I was young. I remember that during the Nixon impeachment process, Radio Moscow had the clearest, most neutral reporting of any news source. I guess they had no reference for the orderly change of power and reported it as if they were watching activity on another planet.
Up is down, right is left, now we have to go to Russian radio to get the truth.
There is a freeper, who shall remain nameless, who always seems to pipe up, and question the veracity of russian news sources (namely pravda) when sourced. When informed that the moderm pravda is a legitimate news source, and not the cold war propaganda tool, said freeper “forgets”, and posts the same complaint on the next thread that cites the pravda source.
If only Joe Adamov were still alive, I’d love to have heard his take on things.
Yes, I remember those "hanging chads". Voter fraud resulting in an ambiguous outcome would definitely muddy the waters.
The Acorn crap is being ginned up already as we see.
You can thank Schickelgruber and Company for a lot of it. People are afraid of doing anything that might remotely appear to be “Nazi-like.”
Actually, this COULD begin to make this story more interesting. If enough foreign press outlets begin covering this story, it could force the disingenuous, biased media (DBM) in the US to cover it.
Despite the gloom coming from the GOP race, all of this (the SCOTUS ObamaCare decision included) could make this summer VERY hot and interesting!
However, before you lay in a supply of champagne and popcorn, note my extensive use of the word “could”. A lot of things have to happen before ANY of those “coulds” can become reality! I’m not betting the farm just yet.
Right on - 100%. The working stiffs have no stomach for a real rebellion. Only when they see their children or grandchildren starving will they react & at that time it is way too late.
No he isn't. To be blackmailable means that someone has to be willing to publish the truth about you.
The mainstream media has access to all kinds of information about Obama, but they refuse to investigate or expose him.
Russia could send incriminating evidence to the U.S. media about Obama, and they would just cover it up, laugh it off, or brand it racist. That would be the end of it.
Sheriff Joe knows that Congress and the media are complicit. It is up to ‘the peopple’, until the the 1st Amendment follows Article II Section 1. Remember, every US Senator in April 2008 Signed Senate Resolution 511, that, unlike much relevant information in Google archives or YouTube, still lives in our government database:
My assumption and my understanding is that if you are born of American parents, you are naturally a natural-born American citizen, Chertoff replied. That is mine, too, said Leahy.
We will almost certainly not see any birth information, though perhaps Sheriff Arpaio can expose phony documents probably created to mislead. Passport data too has disappeared. Remember, Obama’s Counterintelligence Chief, John Brennan, had his employee, working for former CIA deputy Brennan's security firm, ‘cauterize’ Obama’s passport files in state department archives (and was then shot in the back of his head at close range). We will likely never see those data either. But here is what no legislator, pundit, or judge will face:
“The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.”
This statement from Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1875) established natural born citizen precedent, because before the 14th Amendment, the only constitutionally defined citizen was a natural born citizen, and in any case, the 14th Amendment did not mention the term ‘natural born citizen,’; its author John Bingham, confirmed the common law definition which became precedent in Minor v. Happersett. Our law is clear. Those in control have dispensed with the Constitution, depending upon the ignorance of most, the cooperation of the media, and the complicity of Congress and the federal judicial branches, who have refused to vet Obama, and assiduously avoided discussing Chief Justice Waite, or Chief Justice Marshal, or Chief Justice Charles Evans Hughes, or Chief Justice John Jay, or Samuel Adams, or President of the Continental Congress, Dr. David Ramsay, or ... You get the idea. You know they are lying when they avoid the law which used to be our foundation, the Constitution, which has never contained definitions, by design, its founders stipulating, as Chief Justice Waite explains, that it must be understood in the language familiar to our framers.
Ask yourself, “Would those who saw their families, neighbors, friends, and countrymen massacred by men with allegiance to the King make the son of parents with allegiance to the king, but born on our soil, eligible to be our President?” When our framers so carefully stipulated that our President must either be a natural born citizen, or have been resident here three years before the Declaration of Independence, fourteen years before the ratification by the original nine states, they were saying our first president must have chosen his revolutionary allegiance three years before the Declaration, and been on our side. Foreign intrigue was among the greatest concerns of John Jay, George Washington and James Madison.
Our first Congressional Historian and one of our Presidents during the Continental Congress, before the Constitution was written, Dr. David Ramsay explained “Citizenship is the inheritance of the children of those who have taken part in the late Revolution; but this is confined exclusively to the children of those who were themselves citizens.”
Our framers were clear. Obama never claimed to be a natural born citizen. His ineligibility has been concealed by both parties. Was it because McCain was not eligible? Possibly. After six Congressional hearings, SB 2678 in Feb 2008 by Obama and McCaskill to try to make McCain eligible failed, no law was approved and everyone shut up. Was it because both parties are worried about Hispanic voters, legal or not? Rubio is the designated “Magic Hispanic”, but why? His parents were not citizens when he was born, and we have natural born Hispanics who would make wonderful chief executives, and who have much more experience. Is Susanna Martinez too conservative for Republican leaders?
The law is there, and clear, but only after some reading. It has been hidden, so no wonder more don't know the truth. Google and Soros’ acolytes have scrubbed citations from Supreme Court decisions to keep ‘the people’ off the trail. The government has an easier time keeping academics and judges from speaking, through their growing dependence upon government largess.
At least they would be doing more to resolve the controversies than our own Congress is willing to do.
On second thought, I bet that they have already done their own, secret examination of the three documents, and they already know whether or not the three documents are fake or not.
I also bet that the Israeli CIA-equivalent agency has done its own tests, and their officials know for sure that the documents are fake or not.
So it looks like the only people who have not done any tests on the documents are our own United States Senators and Representatives. Sad. Very sad.