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Tokyo Soil Would Be Considered “Radioactive Waste” In the United States
Zero Hedge ^ | March 25, 2012 | George Washington

Posted on 03/27/2012 3:25:47 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian

We noted in August that some parts of Tokyo have more radiation than existed in the Chernobyl Exclusion Zones. And see this and this.

There are indications that radiation levels are increasing in Tokyo.

Nuclear engineer Arnie Gundersen took 5 random soil samples in Tokyo recently, and found that all 5 were so radioactive that they would be considered radioactive waste in the United States, which would have to be specially disposed of at a facility in Texas:

(Excerpt) Read more at zerohedge.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fukushima; japan; radioactive; tepco
The meltdown continues?
1 posted on 03/27/2012 3:25:51 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Don’t worry, when I think of this I just harken back to all those armchair nulcear scientists here at the FR that assured everyone that there was no danger at all. They said that eating a bananna was more dangerous.


2 posted on 03/27/2012 3:31:02 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Former Proud Canadian

I see a lot of fear-mongering language used in the article, but very little in the way of concrete facts. That the level of radiation in Tokyo, over 100 miles away, would be affected by what is happening at Fukushima doesn’t even make sense. What about the radiation at Fukushima? Or the radiation at points in between? If radioactive debris from Fukushima is ending up in Tokyo, the fallout nearer Fukushima should be far more concentrated.

Not that I think there is significant fallout in the first place.


3 posted on 03/27/2012 3:43:28 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
When I think of hot Japanese girls, this will add a new dimension. Perhaps they will grow real tenticles, or glow in the dark. Jokes aside, I am sad for all those that have and will suffer.
4 posted on 03/27/2012 3:46:56 AM PDT by catbertz
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To: catbertz

Possible.


5 posted on 03/27/2012 3:48:24 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Feigning past support for a candidate (w/no posting history of it), then suddenly "withdrawing it"?)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Cue Godzilla pic?


6 posted on 03/27/2012 3:52:25 AM PDT by LRS ("This is silly! It can't be! It can't be!!" "Oh yes it is! I said you wouldn't know the joint.")
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To: Former Proud Canadian
Recall that radiation guidelines were devised before there was any real data on the effect of intermediate doses of radiation. All they had, basically, was the knowledge that background radiation was everywhere, mostly at a low level, and data on catastrophic dosages doing immediate, irreversible damage to tissue. And they just took a “If one’s good, two’s better” approach to radiation regulation, which was initially all that they could do.

Since then there have been incidents of radiation release which unintentionally produced data at intermediate dosages. There was a case where radioactive material was mixed into the metal used in constructing an apartment complex. When the blunder was realized, experts descended on the place expecting to find excess cancer incidence and other deleterious effects - and found only a small protective effect. So maybe we need to avoid panicked overreaction.

7 posted on 03/27/2012 4:02:17 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (DRAFT PALIN)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Uhhhh? But it isn’t in the United States. Isn’t this an indictment of the zany EPA policies here? Oh, by the way...is the sky falling?


8 posted on 03/27/2012 4:24:55 AM PDT by hal ogen (1st Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Scythian

My thoughts exactly. Denial is a dangerous thing.


9 posted on 03/27/2012 4:25:15 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: exDemMom

What makes you think that Fukushima isn’t higher in radiation?


10 posted on 03/27/2012 4:26:50 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: exDemMom

A friend of mine was working in Japan on the Fukashima recovery. It’s a LOT worse than is being reported. He left and came back here a couple of months ago because he was concerned with the cavalier attitude of the Japanese Government over the safety of the workers and people in the area.

Before it’s all said and done, Fukashima will most likely be several times worse than Chernobyl in regards to environmental damage and radiation contamination.


11 posted on 03/27/2012 5:05:14 AM PDT by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: exDemMom

It’s obviously a concern if radiation is traveling over 100 miles. How is radiation escaping into the air? What about capping Fukushima, or parts of it, similarly to Chernobyl?

I regret that the Japanese are having to deal with this. The rest of the world needs to learn what can be learned from this incident.


12 posted on 03/27/2012 5:11:36 AM PDT by Clara Lou (ABO! Go Newt!)
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To: BCR #226; All

Just like the talk show host who mockingly ate Fukushima province food and died of thyroid cancer a couple of months later.


13 posted on 03/27/2012 5:13:32 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: exDemMom

It’s the zerosense hedgehog blog. Enough said.


14 posted on 03/27/2012 5:14:15 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (My doctor told me to curtail my Walpoling activities.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

“the meltdown continues”

No but the BS is in full throttle.


15 posted on 03/27/2012 5:19:24 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (My doctor told me to curtail my Walpoling activities.)
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To: autumnraine

Link?


16 posted on 03/27/2012 5:20:10 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (My doctor told me to curtail my Walpoling activities.)
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To: BCR #226
Before it's all said and done, Fukashima will most likely be several times worse than Chernobyl in regards to environmental damage and radiation contamination.

Maybe. The vicinity in Japan was a lot more populated and they dumped a lot of radiation into the ocean. But as far as the releases go, Chernobyl had a much higher spike of radiation in milk (and obviously in the rainwater and grass). Chernobyl had an open reaction and intense fire, whereas Fukashima had a smaller fire and no open reaction.

17 posted on 03/27/2012 5:20:21 AM PDT by palmer (Before reading this post, please send me $2.50)
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To: Scythian

When you are right you are right. I got flamed the first few days for expressing concern about the radiation possibilities.


18 posted on 03/27/2012 6:29:17 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Larry Lucido

My mistake, it was leukemia and he was DIAGNOSED a few months later. Still...

http://enenews.com/japan-tv-host-diagnosed-acute-lymphocytic-leukemia-eating-fukushima-produce-show

Also, leukemia cases are on the rise.

http://fukushima-diary.com/2011/11/acute-leukemia-case-is-spiking-up/


19 posted on 03/27/2012 6:51:12 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: hal ogen
I do not disagree the EPA rules are sometimes crazy, but it does not explain Ukraine's decision that this area would be declared an exclusion zone. I would not think their 'EPA' rules are nearly as far-reaching and zany as ours?
20 posted on 03/27/2012 7:17:24 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: BCR #226

High pressure steam boiling nuclear reactors are very unsafe, in fact they are inherently unsafe, heck one of the inventors of them was very concerned about this very issue and he worked to make a better reactor. However the Big Bloated US Nuclear reglatory commission told him to go pound sand with his new reactor design, and that was almost 40 years ago....

Now the chinese are very interested in this “new tech” that is over 40 years old....

We sit on paperwork and beurocratic filth while the son of a high level party member in china is running the chinese thorium program....

Well maybe in 10 years we can buy some reactors from china.....

Maybe...


21 posted on 03/27/2012 8:52:33 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: autumnraine
What makes you think that Fukushima isn’t higher in radiation?

The article (blogicle?) was talking about extraordinarily high levels of radiation over 100 miles away. Given what I know about radiation, and about fall-out patterns, the amount at Fukushima would have to be astronomical in order for radiation levels to be that high so far away.

The radiation levels at Fukushima *are* higher than anywhere else. But I'm not buying what the blogicle is selling.

22 posted on 03/27/2012 4:45:28 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: exDemMom

Ahh, that makes sense. Thanks!

And after reading that, it sounds totally sarcastic. It’s not meant to be.


23 posted on 03/28/2012 4:00:53 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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