Posted on 03/27/2012 7:02:13 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
After a day of spin from the White House didn’t tamp down outrage over Barack Obama’s sotto voce conversation with Russian President Dmitri Medvedev, the President himself addressed the controversy. Earlier today, Obama insisted that nothing he told Medvedev was out of the ordinary, and that he wasn’t “hiding the ball” on missile defense:
A defensive President Obama said Tuesday he wasn’t guilty of “hiding the ball” when an open microphone caught him pleading with the president of Russia to delay missile shield talks until after this year’s elections.
“The only way I get this stuff done is If I’m consulting with the Pentagon, with Congress, if I’ve got bipartisan support and frankly, the current environment is not conducive to those kinds of thoughtful consultations,” Mr. Obama told reporters at a nuclear security summit here. “This is not a matter of hiding the ball.” …
“I don’t think it’s any surprise that you can’t start that a few months before presidential and congressional elections in the United States, and at a time when they just completed elections in Russia, and they’re in the process of a presidential transition where a new president’s going to be coming in, in a little less than two months,” Mr. Obama said.
Er — riiight. Here is the transcript once again from the conversation:
President Obama: On all these issues, but particularly missile defense, this, this can be solved but it’s important for him to give me space.
President Medvedev: Yeah, I understand. I understand your message about space. Space for you…
President Obama: This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility.
President Medvedev: I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir.
“After my election, I have more flexibility.” He’s not talking about Congressional elections. He’s trying to get “space” from Putin, through Medvedev, in order to get himself re-elected. And to get that space — in which Putin would presumably back off of his public comments on missile defense — Obama promised Russia “flexibility” on missile defense once he gets past “my last election,” and the last time voters can hold him accountable for his actions.
The White House continued to spin this as a demonstration of Obama’s commitment to nuclear disarmament and missile defense:
White House aides said the president was still “deeply invested” in the missile defense system.
Uh huh. Here was Obama’s “deep investment” in this 2008 video from his campaign, in which he promised to “end misguided defense policies,” and one of the first topics mentioned is … missile defense:
I will cut investments in unproven missile-defense systems.
So when was Obama “hiding the ball”? Then or now?
Oh, ok... but the "ball" wasn't palatable enough to be discussed openly?
He has more than successfully crossed over from “Socialist idiot” to “dangerous Socialist idiot”. He’s now playing games with our national defense, and this cannot be allowed. Period.
Another one for your list.
This opens up questions about his interactions with other real and potential enemy nations, i.e., what was promised to Iran, Pakistan, China, North Korea, etc.
C’mon, “Mr. Transparency,” let’s hear it!
Of course, I’m not expecting the majority of American voters to have any remote clue of what this is about.
RE: He’s now playing games with our national defense, and this cannot be allowed. Period.
Yet, there are FReepers who claim that there is not one whit of a difference between Romney and this guy, and would rather let this guy cruise in November than vote against him.
No sh*t, Sherlock. The cat is out of the bag now thanks to that hot mic.
What makes you think the "current environment" will be any better for you even in the unlikely event you are re-elected?
He doesn’t have any balls
And he’s set to punch us in ours
At least he wasn’t hiding the salami.
Still waiting for Romney to call him on it.
Crickets.
Yet, there are FReepers who claim that there is not one whit of a difference between Romney and this guy
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Thats right theres not
Barry has no love or loyalty to America
and nor has Willard...
ozero is being factual and honest here and everybody seems to want to produce some quip or other witty remark.
ozero is confident the election is his because he knows the black Americans for ozero is organized and, I believe, armed and willing to do damage.
ozero knows the media is his and he too could commit murder on the White House lawn and nothing would happen to him.
That guy with the nightstick in Philly was a piker compared to this election.
Look, we've been analyzing this zero for four plus years and we've come to some pretty hard and serious conclusions based on data and fact that indicate, if nothing else, ozero has no intention of leaving our Presidency.
We've heard the school chants, we've seen the boot camps, we've heard his words in speeches, we've seen the emboldenment muslims and blacks exhibit (again, imo) merely because a non-white is the president.
I've become fairly racist over the last few years, something belieing my Bostonian conditioning, and I'm grateful I'm an old fart .. I won't personally feel too much pain and inconvenience because of ozero and his rule ... at least I don't think I will.
Anyway, zero patted that dudes leg on stage and pretty much played golf with him.
Deals are made on the golf course and ozero is well versed in "the deal"
You jinxed the USA as you did the tar heads.
RE: Barry has no love or loyalty to America
and nor has Willard...
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I am no Romney fan and won’t vote for him in the primaries. But I am not going to go that far. THERE *ARE* differences between Obama and Romney and the differences are apparent enough not to sit this one out and allow Obama a second term.
Zero was just pleading with his bosses for more time to get the treason completed.
I’m with you, old fart. I, too, am happy it’s near the end for me.
I also wonder if by “last election” he means last election ever.
WHY IS THIS NOT TREASON?
But I am not going to go that far. THERE *ARE* differences between Obama and Romney
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Maybe you need to go at least as far as listing any differences you feel there might be..
Barry has no love for America or loyalty to America
and nor has Willard...
This was Chicago politics. Nothing more. You give me space. IE: you leave me alone, don't raise a fuss, don't make me look bad, don't make me make any unpopular decisions , basically butter me up . . . help me get reelected, and AFTER I am reelected, i WILL take care of your wishes.
With Russia , no less.
Obama , more truthful to the motherland than the American people . The American people only tolerated until they reelect him. Had to return those Russian spies to the motherland, fast, before they ratted him out.
Wow, agreed! I think it’s bizarre and “cut off your nose to spite your face” to declare that you won’t vote for the R candidate (or, the ABO candidate) if it’s Romney. I think he’s horrible but compared to 0, is infinitely more preferable.
Thanks Army Air Corps,
The list, Ping
Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list
Good point! I wonder what he has said or promised to the leaders of our other enemies that was never picked up on an open mic?
Newt is my favorite, but having only won 2 states, he would be a weak candidate. The majority of America is to the left of both me and Newt.
Santorum is our Obama. Hei pretty, gives an impassioned speech, but is light on accomplishments. Empty suit.
At least I know Mitt can make money. He is way left of me in most regards, but at least he likes America as opposed to our current occupant.
Newt is my favorite, but having only won 2 states, he would be a weak candidate. The majority of America is to the left of both me and Newt.
Santorum is our Obama. Hei pretty, gives an impassioned speech, but is light on accomplishments. Empty suit.
At least I know Mitt can make money. He is way left of me in most regards, but at least he likes America as opposed to our current occupant.
You know, this trminfd mr og rumors after he was elected that the USSR/Russians knew something about a young black communist who would become POTUS. I think the story was posted on FR.
At least we agree that the Newster isn’t pretty! Dignified, but definitely not pretty.
LIAR, LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE???
Oh, believe me, he’s still playing hide the salami. Think his current feller is Kal Penn, unless Michelle ran him off again.
Poor Wookie. No wonder Barry is so skinny....can you imagine that thing chasing The Golden Child around the bed every night for a little action, when all he wants is men?
Might help to explain that scowl on her face all the time.
Thanks for your sentiment.
Those who say there is not one whit of a difference between Romney and Obama will have to believe that Romney LIES 100% of the time. That for me is astonishing.
The main similarity between Romney and Obama is in his Romneycare.
As for the rest of Romney’s policy proposals, only those who are willfully blind or those who are so skeptical and cynical that they believe Romney is the spawn of the father of lies himself would believe that there is no difference at all. I am not THAT cynical yet.
Some differences:
Romney PROMISES to repeal Obamacare at the Federal level.
Romney PROMISES to sign an Executive Order granting ALL states waivers for Obamacare.
Romney promises to cut corporate taxes to 25% and cut taxes across the board by 20% for all levels.
Romney promises to abolish the death tax.
Romney promises to approve the Keystone Pipeline.
Romney promises to work with Paul Ryan to implement his budget.
Now, if those are not major differences with Obama, then I don’t know what is. You can hate him, but these POLICIES are there for all to see.
Only those who believe that he is going to LIE about all of the above will sit this election out and let Obama cruise.
I might be more of a careful to-see-is-to-believe type of voter. But I sure as heck will not sit this one out. I am not going to vote FOR Romney (if he is the alternative), but AGAINST Obama.
Romney. I think he’s horrible but compared to 0, is infinitely more preferable.
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How about spiting your own face ...
and tell us why ???
Romney will have to listen to his conservative base because, unlike Obama, he has nothing but himself to hide behind.
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What Conservative base ???
Willard doesnt have a Conservative base...
and as for listening to us when he gets in the White house ???
he doesnt listen to us now...
Hide behind someone ???
Oh yes Willie Mitty will find someone to blame...
He always finds someone to blame...
Are you serious? Did you not hear the “off-mike” remarks 0 made to Medvedev the other day? Mittens may be a lot of things, but he’s probably not a hard-core-sell-us-out-at-every-opportunity and destroy-all-things-American kind of guy. He may not be good, but he’s a better alternative.
We don’t have good choices this time around. We have bad and really, really bad.
Some differences:
Romney PROMISES to repeal Obamacare at the Federal level.
Romney PROMISES to sign an Executive Order granting ALL states waivers for Obamacare.
Romney promises to cut corporate taxes to 25% and cut taxes across the board by 20% for all levels.
Romney promises to abolish the death tax.
Romney promises to approve the Keystone Pipeline.
Romney promises to work with Paul Ryan to implement his budget.
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Oh so Willard Mitt Romney PROMISED...
Oh I guess thats different...
But the promises of the lying liberal Romney are not worth spit...
and have you read your cut N paste list ???
Wheres the promise that individual states can REFUSE RomneyObamaCare ???
Hmmm its NOT THERE...
Romney LOVES RomneyCare
hes not about to get rid of it...
Its bankrupting MASS as I type...
“Romney PROMISES to repeal Obamacare at the Federal level.”
AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL
BINGO theres the catch...
We Conservatives want RomneyObammaCare GONE for good..
Wheres the promise to do that ???
empty words from a unprincipled empty guy...
Taxes ???
Romney doesnt pay much taxes...
What does he care about regular working people and taxes ???
Hes never had a job...
Romney has never governed as a Conservative...
He promised to govern as a liberal in MASS...
But in that case he DID keep his promise...
Romney PROMISES to sign an Executive Order ...
Do you not understand that some of us dont trust that pen in the hands of Willard Mitt Romney ???
Redux Obama ...
Those who say there is not one whit of a difference between Romney and Obama will have to believe that Romney LIES 100% of the time. That for me is astonishing.
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Yeah Im astonished too...
Im astonished that you would believe people could believe that...
Romney just like Obama sometimes does tell a truth...
accidently and begrudgingly of course..
but it does happen
If it will further the agenda Willard has..
He may not be good, but he’s a better alternative.
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Willie Mitty isnt any good...
and as to being an alternative to Barry...
No hes not a “better” alternative...
Hes just an alternative...
same, same
If you want someone better why arent you talking about Newt ???
We don’t have good choices this time around. We have bad and really, really bad.
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Bad...Rick and Ron Paul
Really really bad...Williard (and yet hes your better choice )
and then theres newt...
so dont say we dont have good choices ...
We only need one good choice...
NEWT
Because the original premise was “IF Romney is our candidate”. That was the only point I was speaking to.
Yes, that is one opinion.
RE: Do you not understand that some of us dont trust that pen in the hands of Willard Mitt Romney ???
Redux Obama ...
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Well, on the other hand you have a sure Obama, on the other hand you have someone who could possibly undo SOME or a lot of what Obama did and perhaps more. Between the sure thing and the possibility ( and these are the only two choices come November ), I have no choice but to take the later. To not vote is to take the sure thing. Not going to do that.
President Obama: On all these issues, but particularly missile defense, this, this can be solved but it’s important for him to give me space.
President Obama: This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility.
This is weird language. This can be solved? What can be solved, the problem of gutting american missile defense? That seems to be the implication.
It is like the guy is reporting his progress (or lack thereof). It only reinforces my suspicion that his kgb contacts go back a long, long time.
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