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7 Hutaree acquitted of most serious charges
Detroit Press | 3/27/12 | Robert Snell

Posted on 03/27/2012 11:31:06 AM PDT by netmilsmom

I can't link because the article comes from the Detroit Press. PM me for the link.

Basically the Hutaree members were acquitted from all but the weapons charges. According to the judge, many things the defendants said were quite offensive. "But so what?" the judge said.


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1 posted on 03/27/2012 11:31:11 AM PDT by netmilsmom
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To: netmilsmom

please send me the link


2 posted on 03/27/2012 11:35:36 AM PDT by hans56
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To: netmilsmom

What’s a “Hutaree”?


3 posted on 03/27/2012 11:39:45 AM PDT by carriage_hill (I'll "vote for an orange juice can", over Barry 0bummer and another 4yrs of his Regime From Hell!)
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To: netmilsmom

I never forgot this case. The Holder DoJ got their use out of them, the gov’t just wanted to post pictures of White Christians as terrorists on the evening news at the exact same time the gov’t/media complex was trying to pin a violent act on the Tea Partyers. Any Freepers know what happended to that Christian sect in I think TX who had their kids taken away?


4 posted on 03/27/2012 11:51:21 AM PDT by kreitzer
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To: hans56

From a radio news clip summary ...Judge said it was hard to see how free speech crossed the line into a criminal offense


5 posted on 03/27/2012 12:06:41 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: carriage_hill

What’s a “Hutaree”?
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That’s the so called “white Christian group” on which the Justice department spent lots of money in an attempt to manufacture a crime. More BS from Homeland Security and the Justice Dept related to their attempts to distract attention from the REAL THREATS to national security.


6 posted on 03/27/2012 12:06:53 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: netmilsmom

many things the defendants said were quite offensive. “But so what?” the judge said.


7 posted on 03/27/2012 12:11:30 PM PDT by NoLibZone (When will Obama call Trayvon's mom? He was quick to call Sandra Fluke.)
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To: carriage_hill

Honestly, they are a bunch of friends and their families who go together on weekends, hunting and showing off their weapontry. There are a whole bunch of people like them up here in MI. Some are survivalists, some are hunters, most are conservatives and are targeted by the libs.

About the time the arrests happened, my daughters started shooting lessons. The club where they went was all abuzz about these guys. Gun owners up here were watching it very carefully.


8 posted on 03/27/2012 12:11:30 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Breitbart)
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To: netmilsmom
Better yet, just use a non-Detroit Press article, like lenconnect.com:
DETROIT — A federal judge dismissed the most serious charges Tuesday against seven members of a Michigan militia who were rounded up as homegrown extremists accused of plotting war against the U.S., saying their expressed hatred of law enforcement didn't amount to conspiracy against the government.
The FBI spent years, and the time of two informants, to try to entrap these Michigan men.
9 posted on 03/27/2012 12:13:13 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: netmilsmom; All

Tina Stone, 46; David Stone Jr., 22; Michael Meeks, 42; Thomas Piatek, 48; and Kristopher Sickles, 29, were aquitted of all charges.


10 posted on 03/27/2012 12:18:22 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: netmilsmom
Basically, what they did was sit around the campfire and talk scat.
11 posted on 03/27/2012 12:21:35 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: cripplecreek

MI ping.


12 posted on 03/27/2012 12:23:10 PM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Well, they also a an internet forum and took pictures of themselves with their guns.

But basically, they did just sit around the campfire and talk scat.


13 posted on 03/27/2012 12:23:37 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Breitbart)
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To: netmilsmom
From the article "Haug [the informant] repeatedly talked to Stone about building pipe bombs and getting other sophisticated explosives."

There's an easy way to tell that you are being set up on a sting: when somebody (especially somebody you know little about) initiates a discussion with you about doing illegal things. Big red flag.

Various LEO organizations have (I would guess) tens of thousands of people running around trying to entrap people. Somebody gets arrested for something, he's offered a deal where things will go easier on him if he helps get evidence on somebody else. Then that somebody else gets offered a deal, and the cycle repeats. That's what the feds tried to do with Randy Weaver in 1992.

14 posted on 03/27/2012 12:24:44 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: PapaBear3625

I looked on Bing.
The only other I could see was from the Miami Herald.

Great catch!


15 posted on 03/27/2012 12:26:43 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Breitbart)
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16 posted on 03/27/2012 12:27:18 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: PapaBear3625
Exactly, A freeper who lived in Idaho were there were a lot of militia groups observed those groups were 1/3 true believer, 1/3 nutcake and 1/3 government informant.

Randy Weaver was lured into an illegal transaction by an informant. It is a common tactic.

17 posted on 03/27/2012 12:30:24 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: PapaBear3625

There is an old joke: How do you tell the FBI informant at the Klan meeting? He’s the guy with the dynamite.


18 posted on 03/27/2012 12:38:09 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Randy Weaver was lured badgered into an illegal transaction by an informant. It is a common tactic.
19 posted on 03/27/2012 12:39:21 PM PDT by Ratman83
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To: netmilsmom

If sitting around talking smack about the govt and law enforcement was a crme half of us freepers would be in jail.


20 posted on 03/27/2012 12:59:06 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: House Atreides; netmilsmom

I’ve never heard of them or the whole incident. But then, I live in farm country.


21 posted on 03/27/2012 1:08:43 PM PDT by carriage_hill (I'll "vote for an orange juice can", over Barry 0bummer and another 4yrs of his Regime From Hell!)
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To: carriage_hill

FReepers talked about them.
It was pretty scary for some of us. Especially here in MI.


22 posted on 03/27/2012 1:18:38 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Breitbart)
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To: netmilsmom

I think it’s Meeks that lives less than a mile from me. Lots of black SUVs around here for a few days.


23 posted on 03/27/2012 1:25:32 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: netmilsmom

I sympathize with you and your dear daughters, m’am. I just don’t remember the whole sad thing. I should, but I don’t. I’ll do some research on it to find out, so I’m more informed.


24 posted on 03/27/2012 1:27:42 PM PDT by carriage_hill (I'll "vote for an orange juice can", over Barry 0bummer and another 4yrs of his Regime From Hell!)
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To: netmilsmom
I'm glad they got off. As far as I was concerned, they were just a bunch of army playin' nutjobs......

I don't know if their website is still up but they were definitely full of themselves, especially in the ranks they made up for themselves.....those were laughable.

25 posted on 03/27/2012 1:32:31 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (No matter what you post here, someone's going to get pissed off......)
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To: carriage_hill

“I’ve never heard of them or the whole incident. But then, I live in farm country.”
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“.....I live in farm country.” Then you are THE PRIME TARGET of Obama’s & Holder’s INJustice Department.


26 posted on 03/27/2012 1:34:09 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: netmilsmom

Looks like Stone and his sons are all being charged with possession of the same “machine gun”.


27 posted on 03/27/2012 1:36:28 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: netmilsmom

The govt. guy was so deeply entrenched with that group that he was actually the best man at one of their weddings and a God father of one of the babies.......talk about a scum bag.


28 posted on 03/27/2012 1:36:50 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (No matter what you post here, someone's going to get pissed off......)
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To: netmilsmom

Have they been incarcerated this whole time? I followed the case at the start, knew the charges were bogus, and thought denying bail was heavy-handed.


29 posted on 03/27/2012 1:39:02 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: netmilsmom

Here in Indiana, people were concerned as well.


30 posted on 03/27/2012 1:41:51 PM PDT by jkeith3213
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To: Hot Tabasco

The real shocker is the fact that this judge is a black female Clinton appointee. She originally wanted to throw the whole case out but federal prosecutors managed to block her.


31 posted on 03/27/2012 1:43:29 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek
Was it really a "machine gun"? Or is it a semi-auto that the BATFE folks hammered on until it doubled?

After the railroading that others have gotten on just such BS testing procedures... I wouldn't put it past the ATF to have "manufactured" something out of nothing.

32 posted on 03/27/2012 1:47:19 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: House Atreides

I already have been, HA. They’ve destroyed my successful 22yr old Family Business with huge new taxes, the massive and onerous/burdensome EPA and Ag Dept rules/regs, inspections, rulings, fees, permits, inspections etc etc etc, along with thousands of other American Family Farming operations. I’ve more than had “my fill” of the govt interference and meddling. Fortunately, I’ve not come into contact with the DoINJ.


33 posted on 03/27/2012 1:54:32 PM PDT by carriage_hill (I'll "vote for an orange juice can", over Barry 0bummer and another 4yrs of his Regime From Hell!)
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To: Dead Corpse
Was it really a "machine gun"? Or is it a semi-auto that the BATFE folks hammered on until it doubled?

I don't know. I had the same thought.
34 posted on 03/27/2012 1:55:55 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: netmilsmom

Past FR threads on this.

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/hutaree/index


35 posted on 03/27/2012 1:57:19 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

I find black females to be strangely mercurial...you diss them and forget it you are screwed...but if one is polite and respectful while laying down the facts in a neat orderly way, liberal or conservative they’ll go with the truth!


36 posted on 03/27/2012 2:16:58 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (Christ came not to make man into God but to restore fellowship of the Godhead with man.)
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To: mdmathis6

This thread has a link to the judge’s original comments on the case. She wasn’t happy with the feds at all.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2505635/posts


37 posted on 03/27/2012 2:21:08 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: netmilsmom

And these same goosestepping federal fascists like the FBI and ATF will sit around in their offices plotting ways to shoot us, bomb us and kill us if we don’t obey their illegal diktats.

Really, who is the criminal?


38 posted on 03/27/2012 3:32:40 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: House Atreides; netmilsmom

Here’s a link to another article on the Hutarees:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2864666/posts


39 posted on 03/27/2012 4:08:14 PM PDT by carriage_hill (I'll "vote for an orange juice can", over Barry 0bummer and another 4yrs of his Regime From Hell!)
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To: netmilsmom

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/03/27/Holder-Loses-Militia-Case-An-Extraordinary-Defeat-for-Federal-Authorities

Delete post if inappropriate.


40 posted on 03/28/2012 8:09:01 AM PDT by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: cripplecreek

Thats great News. Where is the press ??

Holder should be impeached over this.

The truth is that an FBI Obama cadre tried to get the Hutaree to engage in a fire fight. It didn’t happen, thanks to the regular Michigan Militia who warned the Hutaree.

Earlier FR threads:

1)

Timing on Hutaree Raid Troubling

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2483015/posts

2)

Court official disputes prosecutors on Hutaree release conditions

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2509402/posts

3)

Hutaree Raid: An extremely well-executed federal operation aimed at ... Oath Keepers.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2483749/posts

4)

Who Is David Brian Stone, Leader Of The Hutaree Militia?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2482960/posts


41 posted on 03/28/2012 12:07:17 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascist info....http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: House Atreides
Hutaree is a rough equivalent of that time the FBI spent $7 million to drain a small lake supposedly in an attempt to find something to do with a home-made anthrax laboratory tool.

That is, a way to waste lots of money, a lot of time, and not have to bother doing real investigations into real problems.

In fact, the Hutaree event probably overlapped something FBI was doing with or without ATF's cooperation down on the border with Mexico ~ or maybe on the border with Canada.

Recall, Arizona isn't the only place the fibbies and ATF were shipping guns to narcotrafficantes. We've had earlier reports of such things in Indiana with Ontario as the destination for other highpowered semi-automatic firearms.

It's also possible the Hutaree folks saw something they shouldn't have seen ~ they just don't know that yet while they've been fighting to stay out of federal prison. Maybe Issa would like to ask the FBI about that ~ get them to perjure themselves again.

42 posted on 03/28/2012 8:06:10 PM PDT by muawiyah
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