Posted on 03/27/2012 1:13:49 PM PDT by Kaslin
I admire the sentiment, but we are looking at a more serious situation then just one upmanship. They may, and very properly in my view, look at it as a priceless opportunity to knock him down to size by reminding him of that.
Remember, if Barry is (and he has been) allowed to pretty much do away with Congress, what would make the Supreme Court think he can’t get along without them, too?
And what if he lost the case and went ahead with the mandate anyhow claiming that it fell under that recently revised EO. In fact, has any taken a look at that thing close enough to be sure there are no sneaky little clauses that can be twisted to fit?
Congress and the US Supreme Court both need to realize what is at stake here and that their total relevance as institutions in the future may indeed rest with their ability to bring down Obama before he brings down the Constitution completely.
The most important reason that the United States Government has lasted as long as it has is that it is build on checks and balances between the three co-equal branches of government. It hasn’t always worked perfectly, but it HAS up to now, worked. That’s vital.
Everybody’s talking about this now. I went to the comic pages today to get some relief from this crazy political crisis and look what I found on Prickly City.
http://www.gocomics.com/comic/explore/1398288/11
Now this is NOT intended to be funny people. The comic artist is using his medium to tell us he sees it too, and he wants other people to wake up and look around them.
We’re getting right up to the edge.
I will sleep well at night knowing I didn't contribute to our "country's demise" by voting for obama lite. If you and others want to put such a RINO in the White House, that's your god-damn Constitutional right. When obambi wins against such a poor debater, it's on your shoulders, not mine.
When Bambi wins, and continues his "hopey/changey" thing from a free nation into a socialist nation, and the uprising occurs, I'll be there. You will probably be looking at the next election cycle thinking "We can win this one. Rah, rah, shish boom ba".
Grow up. You're not getting it. It's over whether Bambi or Romney gets in the White House. They are simply different shades of the same political color. Unless conservatives get a super-majority in the Senate (60+), there is NO chance of correcting this course into the failed state of socialism. It's almost a done deal with some 49% of Americans being on the dole.
Arguably, Alexander Tytler said, "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy."
Even though I'm an aging 62 year old, I will not allow our great experiment to go quietly into the good night. I will stand my ground before I ever vote for a socialist (Romneycare) like Romney! If obambi wins, so be it. He will probably take our country to the brink and the sh*t will definitely hit the fan.
I'm okay with that, because unlike most, I remember my Oath and will do my best to fight against further totalitarian efforts. If I have to lose all to attempt to regain our Constitutional heritage, I will do so. I will die happy knowing I tried and gave a small part of what all our military has done throughout our national history.
God Bless the United States of America and her original principles, values and intent.
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The 15 Trillion + are desperate for an opt out, as long as they are EXEMPT. And this extortion attempt Federal Labor Camp is it.
Fed’s Bullard headline. No coming Qe due to oil price shock.
The 15 trillion + pensions and retirements flooding the economy already have oil SUSTAINED (and food/commodities/essentials) above 105. Gas near or above 4.00.
I repeat, this is an attempt at a real forced Federal Labor Camp bailout (which never happened in 2008 due to deflation.) The “bailout” was a government pension-retirement give-away propagandized as “stimulus.”
I stated years ago, that their refusal to back off and cut down with the rest, will lead to an attempted forced U.S. work camp. And that’s what their attempting to pull.
That’s right, the MassMitt Mandate deception. A campaign of deception. “End” Mandate-Care, yet enforce at the state level.
“Ask a liberal: If the government can force you to buy health insurance, can the government force you to buy a firearm?”
I’m afraid that is not the question to ask a liberal, as firearms would be found under the militia clause, specifically the part where man of military age is regarded as part of the militia.
The question is whether or not the governmental can force you to buy into a contract agreeing to be institutionalized if you happen to hold believes your “desinated party” finds insane. That is all part of forcing you into a government approved contract.
Ask a Liberal if they feel comfortable with the idea of Republicans taking the presidency then using their new founded power over health insurance to prohibit contraception, abortions, and various other “services” used primarily by leftist?
I think Obama may not want to win this, because if they do their dead.
On our conservative radio today according to one authority who is covering the proceedings very thoroughly, said, near the end of the day, Kennedy said, something close to, “well, maybe healthcare is different”...point is this isn’t a slam dunk as the early arguments as reported by our side and even the Left think...she predicts 5-4 and whatever Kennedy does will redefine or keep intact the government’s relationship to the people. Either we are free or we become subjects of the government.
BEWARE reading ANYTHING into questions by the Justices. I’ve argued before SCOTUS, the VA Sup Ct and several appellate courts and questions don’t mean a whole lot. In fact, Justices will frequently ask questions the opposite of what they are inclined to do to force you to make their argument.
Judicial questions are for one purpose ... to spur discussion. Many times a Judge would grill me on an issue as though he didn’t buy it only to rule in my favor.
Anyone who tells you they can read the tea leaves on this one, or that there are even tea leaves to read, have know idea about what they speak.
**** Kennedy raised the possibility that the plaintiffs [i.e., the government] were right that the mandate was a unique effort to force people into commerce to subsidize health insurance, but the insurance market may be unique enough to justify that unusual treatment.” ****
That’s all you need to know. Slam dunk, done. They are going to tie themselves in knots to uphold this law.
-—, near the end of the day, Kennedy said, something close to, “well, maybe healthcare is different”...point is this isn’t a slam dunk as the early arguments as reported by our side and even the Left think...she predicts 5-4 and whatever Kennedy does will redefine or keep intact the government’s relationship to the people. Either we are free or we become subjects of the government.-—
That’s frightening. I’ve felt all along that the opportunity to “do something historic” will be too tempting for the majority to resist.
I pray that I’m wrong.
At least they’re using the term ‘trainwreck’-!!!
Will any Republican contender prosecute anyone in this administration if elected?
Will they fire ALL the leftists and Democrat appointees?
Bush’s nice-guy reach-across-the-aisle “diplomacy” got a lot of Americans killed.
The leftards are simply managing expectations. We could be in for a very rude awakening if we believe the nature of the questions foretell the outcome of this case.
Ok, I’m no lawyer. Just a mom in IL trying to wrap my brain around all this idiocy but can someone please explain to me this “unique” argument that you all are talking about?
What does being “unique” have to do with it? I don’t give a rip if it is, still doesn’t mean I should have to buy something I don’t want. An energy with bull piss in it is unique and I may or may not want to buy it.
energy drink
If it doesn't, the President and every damn politician who voted for this should be voted OUT !!!!!
Trust me. Obama will be the happiest person in the room if it gets shot down.
Why....He's already in the midst of trying a different course....via the activist Fluck....regulate the insurance policies!!!
Wise words indeed.
Hell, they'd be finished by now.
What does being “unique” have to do with it? I don’t give a rip if it is, still doesn’t mean I should have to buy something I don’t want. An energy with bull piss in it is unique and I may or may not want to buy it.
Your brilliant, incisive legal analysis proves once again why 99 times out of a hundred I would much rather listen to regular folks concerning law and constitutionality than any lawyer.
-- Supreme Court Justice Joseph Story, Constitution (5th ed.) 345, SS 451."Every word employed in the Constitution is to be expounded in its plain, obvious, and common sense, unless the context furnishes some ground to control, qualify, or enlarge it. Constitutions are not designed for metaphysical or logical subtleties, for niceties of expression, for critical propriety, for elaborate shades of meaning, or for the exercise of philosophical acuteness or judicial research. They are instruments of a practical nature, rounded on the common business of human life, adapted to common wants, designed for common use, and fitted for common understandings. The people make them, the people adopt them, the people must be supposed to read them, with the help of common-sense, and cannot be presumed to admit in them any recondite meaning or any extraordinary gloss."
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