Skip to comments.Gingrich pledges to support GOP rival Mitt Romney
Posted on 03/27/2012 4:30:27 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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“... We would be the ones to have voted for him. ... Evil begets evil. Vote for Romney with your eyes wide open and answer to God for it.”
You are thorough and accurate in your assessments. I agree with every particular in your post. The tophet on the right is as much an abomination as the tophet on the left. This is a parting of ways. The division is between those who submit to what the corrupted GOP demands, and those who actually mean it when they say they support life and liberty.
Since Roe v. Wade, the United States government has overseen and supported the systematic destruction of roughly 54,559,600 innocents in the abbatoirs called ‘clinics’. This is more than three times the number of deliberate civilian homicides carried out by the Third Reich.
God is not mocked. Not by anyone. Not now, not ever.
Go to the tophet on the left, and you are a guilty participant. Go to the tophet on the right, and . . . you are a guilty participant. Roughly half of the nation will go to the left. A similar number will go the right.
And ALL of them will have stood on one tophet or another.
God is not mocked, and vengeance is His. He will repay.
You never met John Corzine? Warren Buffett? There are a whole lot of liberal businessmen out there. Especially people like Romney who have no blue collar or middle class roots and were actually born into a political family. Especially businessmen liked Romney who never actually ran a business with blood, sweat and tears. He just pushed massive sums of money around in sweetheart deals where he might not always win but the structure of the deals dictated that he COULDN'T LOSE. He's someone who had everything in life handed to him. Therefore he thinks everyone should have things handed to them by a socialist government.
He passed Romneycare. 'Nuff said.
He raised fees and taxes (or as he tells it, "closed loopholes") in Taxachusetts to the tune of about 700 million dollars in new revenue, even while job creation ranked only 47th among all states in the nation.
He had to be dragged kicking and screaming into the 20% across-the-board tax cut he's promising, after his tax plan was described by the WSJ as "timid" and similar to Obama's. We'll have to see if his new plans survived the Etch-a-Sketch shake-up.
His earlier plan said he would not cut taxes for anyone making over $200,000. Obama said he would give tax cuts up to $250,000. So Romney was more liberal than Obama on tax cuts.
He said on the campaign trail that he would index the minimum wage to inflation. I think that's a more liberal policy than Obama's.
He refused to speak up in favor of John Kasich's union-busting legislation when asked.
His vision for the "very poor" is for them to be permanent members of the underclass supported by the "safety net." That is exactly what every socialist's vision includes. They don't believe in class mobility, they believe in class division and class warfare. And their goal is to redistribute income through the state to the lower class from everybody else.
Romney's an economic liberal and a progressive socialist. For some strange reason most Republican voters seem to assume that being a businessman or being rich automatically makes you an "economic conservative." One way or another, Romney has managed to pull a thin veneer of wool Republicans' eyes on that point. They are going to have a rude awakening if this man is elected and they get to find out what his economic philosophies really are.
“DC cannot be rolled back.”
The pustule on the Potomac will go the way of the Politburo, and for similar reasons. The only question is when.
Papa, don’t let your babies grow up to be RINOs.
I never said Romney was perfect or my first choice. But over Obama, I will vote for any republican, RINO or severe conservative. You must understand I do not get to vote for my 1st choice in November. But I do get to register my vote against Obama.
As for Romney, I am completely aware of his flips on social issues. I will give him credit for balls to use veto 800 times in 4 years. I will give him benefit of doubt over any judges he may have nominated/appointed in Massachusetts. There is no way in heck he could have had any social conservatives approved by the overwhelming democrat legislature.
In the final analysis it is the GOP nominee versus Obama. I despise what Obama has done so far. So my vote is essentially against Obama, not pro-Romney should he be the nominee.
On Romneycare....amazingly it is popular in MA. Voters in MA keep voting for politicians who will keep it. I have zero problem with any state passing anything their residents want. One can always move to another state, like I moved out of Illinois. Federal laws are one size fits all, and must be opposed whenever possible.
As for my kids, they have decided they do not like Obama, so they will do the same thing I am doing, register a vote against Obama and for whoever his opponent is.
That is why we’re a republic, not a democracy. Politicians have begun competing with each other on which one can hand out the most loot from the treasury to buy votes. That is what will drive our country into oblivion. We desperately need politicians who won’t play that game and sell the people that bill of goods to be paid off later on the backs of their children and grandchildren, or most likely never paid off at all.
I suppose what makes things less onerous at the state level is that they have to balance their budgets. I believe Hawaii passed its own socialized health care and had to repeal it within a year a few years back because it was going to bankrupt them. On the other hand, California is driving itself into massive debt and seems to be counting on an eventual federal bailout. They’re also in that position because so many of their laws are decided by direct democracy as ballot initiatives. We need to elect good leaders who are willing to explain to people why they can’t always have everything they want when they want it.
Doing something at the state level is simply a slippery slope to doing it at the federal level, as Romneycare has already proven. And either way it inculcates the wrong attitude in the minds of the people. Not to mention, it institutionalizes a tyranny of taxation which, while the majority of voters may like it, the minority of people who are coerced into funding it through taxation may not like at all. They may also have businesses rooted in that state which are not easy or perhaps impossible to simply uproot and move.
My conclusion, opinion, is arrived at after many years, much thought, much reflection, and much trying to anticipate the future by looking at the past.
Your automatic pilot, steered by blind fear, sends you to Romney and blinds you to considering the consequences. I am sorry to say it, but it's true, and I'm even sorrier to say that you're the norm.
ANYBODY who votes for Romney out of pure political expediency that he's "the lesser evil" and the bastard wins, the next time you sing "God Bless America," or ask Him to bless our nation, don't be surprised to see things get worse. On the other hand, if God loving, God fearing Americans show some FAITH that God's simple decency is worth hewing to even if it "helps" the enemy in the short run, God might well smile on us and handle the Obama situation Himself in His miraculous ways, as He has always done for the righteous in times of war, and this is war.
You'd be asked to fight FOR an agent of depravity to become leader of this nation, and that is wrong no matter how you rationalize it. Romney vs Obama would be a pretty stiff test from the Almighty. Those who have courage will go one way. Those willing to let fear trump God, will go another.
Put emotions aside, Navy, and heed Antonius.
Newt also told Truman Caputo he would consider being Romney’s V.P. if asked. This shouldn’t surprise anyone. Newt spent his career rebuilding the Republican party. He’s a party loyalist. He savaged Bush, Sr. for raising taxes but supporting him in the general election. He called Dole tax collector for the welfare state but supported him in the general election. You do have to admire him for looking past the personal attacks Romney conducted against him and believing there is a more important cause, defeating Obama.
You said it. Exactly.
Yes, but when Romney was signing those things, using his office as Governor of Massachusetts to foment depravity in the form of cheap on-demand abortion and encouraging homosexual "pride" outreach into schools, he wasn't doing it because he hated Obama.
Would it have been any better if he had been?
Octarma, HATE MAKES YOU WEAK.
Courage makes you strong.
Four more years of Obama and kiss the USA goodbye...
Couldn’t agree with you more.
Can’t agree with you at all.
I don't think that you'll find very many businessmen in Massachusetts who rave about the wonderful Romney years.
I had actually posted that reponse without fully reading your entire post (my apologies), I did however, give a second response a little less flippant. I mentioned why I rejected the premise the entire original statement was built upon. Having said that, I truly respect yours and any other’s here who flat out refuse to support Mitt Romney based on past performance and current dallying. This is the same way I feel about Rudy Giuliani so believe me when I say I can see your point of view. I would never brow-beat someone who feels as you do into voting against conscience. I just hope you can understand folks like me who after the last 3 1/2 years and counting of what we’ve been put through-—are gonig through (hot mic slip....) will do what needs to be done to rid the country of the usurper-n-chief. We just have a difference of opinion as equating the two equally or Romney being worse...so you will have to do what you think is right and so will I.
If our choice in November is Romney or Obama, I have to conclude that God is in the process of harshly judging our nation. Left to their own political inclinations, both would do irreparable harm to our country. I would prefer a wolf in wolf's clothing to a wolf in sheep's clothing. A Romney victory effectively kills conservatism as a viable political force. That is not a price I'm prepared to pay for the very limited improvement he would provide over Obama.
Unlike Newt or Santorum or the other Republicans who would fall in line behind Romney if he gets the nomination, I'm not beholden to the Republican Party. My political loyalties are to conservatism, not Republicanism, so I am free to walk away if Romney gets the nomination. I fully intend to do so. In my circle of friends, I know at least a dozen life-long Republicans who are going to sit out the Presidential election if Romney is the nominee.
Romney in MA could have nominated conservative judges till the cows come home, and there is no way in heck the overwhelming democrat legislature would have approved a single one. Result? Shortage of judges and justice denied to litigants. So I will give him benefit of the doubt in MA situation.
His 800 veto’s in 4 years as governor is more than most anybody
has done in 4 years that I can think of. So I am giving him a plus on that.
In the final analysis, Romney is not my 1st or 2nd or 3rd or 4th choice. Cain, Bachmann, Newt, Perry are/were my first 4. However I am mature enough to know one does not get the ultimate wish in life. Politics is not a zero sum game. You get the best you can get.
President Reagan said it best “I will vote for the most conservative who can get elected”. And that surely excludes Hoffman in NY-23 and Angle in NV.
President Reagan said it best “I didn’t leave my party. My party left me.”
I had no idea President Reagan had left the republican party before he passed away. I thought he died a republican.
Yes, in 4 more years of Obama, USA will look like Cuba.
But there is a small benefit in that. There will be no more illegal immigrants coming in. No one tries to get in Cuba, legally or illegally.
Forgive me for my skepticism but I get the feeling that you're being disingenious. You claim ignorance of Romney's judicial appointments but then pulling up a "fact" like that makes me suspicious. Combined with your recent sign-up date makes me even more skeptical.
It's easy to claim to support real conservatives but now feel resigned to voting for Romney. Free Republican veterans saw a lot of dishonest postings by Mittens in the 2008 election cycle.
Assuming that you are being truthful in your concerns, are you not troubled by Romney's apparent lack of political convictions in putting forward court nominees who he supposedly disagrees with because they can get approved? Surely Romney could have put up a true moderate instead of the liberals he did. Is this the kind of spinelessness that we could expect from a Romney Presidency?
You might claim maturity in your stance but others might see selling out. Personally, I'm not going to compromise my principles to support a candidate who will give us 75-90% of the Obama agenda just because he has an "R" behind his name.
You better check your quote. I believe that William Buckley made that statement. Whether stated by Buckley or Reagan, two men that I respected immensely, doesn't mean that I have to agree with the statement. I can think for myself.
And that surely excludes Hoffman in NY-23 and Angle in NV.
A Freudian slip? You're not reducing my skepticism.
Above is what I fear more than a Romney presidency.
My statement about the 800 veto’s is based on what I heard during the debates. I have not researched it, so do not know if it is correct. But since it was uttered in a nationally televised debate, and I did not see the MSM jumping on it, it is a fair assumption it is probably correct. I believe in supporting facts whether they are favorable or unfavorable. Once we start ignoring facts, we are essentially morally bankrupt.
For disclaimers, I have not favored Romney in this primary cycle. My main reason being he does not have a spine of steel ala Bachmann. My first preference was Cain because he would have had the best chance of defeating Obama, which is my ultimate wish. Cain is the only one who can break up 95% solid voting block for Obama..the A-A’s.
As things stand now, the reality is Santorum can not reach 1144. So we have either a brokered convention or Romney gets to 1144. If the latter is the case, my vote in November will be a vote against Obama.
More disclaimers: I am not a Mormon, and I have not sent a single cent to Romney. I will however send monetary contribution to whichever republican emerges as the nominee.
It is not fear..it is REALITY! why don’t YOU wait and see what happens at the convention. Oh and sure the gop is UNITED..BS! Obama has not united the republican party as is visible during this election. What the hell happened to the Tea Party?
IF Newt goes 3rd party..he has my support by 100% but hell NO to four more years of Obama and to anyone that supports the sob
An open convention should be the desire of every conservative. From a conservative perspective, we couldn't possibly do worse than Romney. I doubt anyone could name five Republicans with a more liberal record than Romney and even if someone could, none of them would have any chance of being selected in an open convention.
The only ones threatened by an open convention are members of the GOP-E who are scared to death that an open convention might actually nominate a conservative Republican.
There is nothing to be scared of if we go to a brokered convention. But if we do, most likely the nominee will not be from the 4 remaining.
Should Romney get to 1144, it is also possible one of the other 3 could make some kind of deal and combine their delegates.
In any event, this is turning out to be a political junkie’s dream year.
"Just don't you dare ever claim that you're a Conservative."
Using your categorical value/labeling-system, I then say to you, should you also be faced with that same choice...and you choose to sit on your hands and not vote:
"Just don't you dare ever claim that you're an American."
Romney is an American; Obama is NOT...he's a usurping marxist communist hell bent on specifically taking America completely DOWN.
Romney is an usurping marxist communist pedophile, dog strangling bag of feces bent on specifically taking America completely DOWN in obedience to his Eurotrash One World Order masters.
You know this is true. If you vote "for the lesser of two evils" then you are part of the problem.
Write in Sarah Palin like I'm going to do. It's good for your soul to vote FOR good. You won't feel so dirty like you do now.
Wow, that one goes waaay past your previous flawed logic and adsriptions.
A write-in campaign will not work this go-around. That's just the cold truth. Its effective outcome is an Obama boost--two-fold.
Like Rush, Newt, and many other rational, country-loving Americans, I've put down roots in Realville, USA...the same town that I hope exists in the future for the home of my children and theirs.
If Obama gets four more years, come November...just a few months from now...there effectually will BE no more America--BEGINNING THEN AND FALLING SWIFTLY.
An ABO vote at LEAST gives us some TIME to try and turn our country back into some semblance of a FREE NATION.
OR...you could just give up and turn your children over to Dictator Obama and his Dictatress Moochelle.
They'd LOVE to chomp on FReeper progeny first. Call it their "first course."
Moochelle is probably picking out the perrrrfect accompanying RED wine as we speak.
Reagan lived and died a conservative. He had no use for liberal political parties or candidates.
I would agree. Even the GOP-E would have gotten it through their thick skulls that the party doesn't want Romney. I wouldn't be surprised that if, as is likely, Romney brings the most delegates that he would wind up with a consolation prize of an offer as VP.
It would be interesting to see who might toss their hat into the ring. The thought of capturing the nomination for just a couple of days of back room campaigning is likely to be too tempting for a politician with any ambition to pass up.
Our innumeral bold, brave and loving-of-us-and-country great PATRIOT WARRIORS who over the years have fought and died for us...for our FREEDOM.
They gave ALL for us and for our future and for the future of our nation.
Thinking of those countless great Americans...our BEST...and our more recent Warriors who have bravely given all for us...or have come home maimed and with such difficult lives ahead...I just can't finish my sentences about these thoughts.
I will NOT allow Obama strip us of what the FINEST men and women on EARTH fought to preserve and give to us. NEVER.
Sorry about the ramble, katie. My very best to you.
Miss Behave, I share your feelings on our military. My father served 24 yrs USN Ret; my husband served 24 yrs and did 3 tours in Viet Nam...it is heart
wrenching to see how our troops are treated.
Enjoyed your posts...it is good to know someone else shares my feelings:) You are a true patriot.
You see what your despondency has brought us ~ resignation to evil.
Have another drink...and go somewhere else please.
Just doesn't look like it.
I repeat: go somewhere else PLEASE. Don't be That Creep.