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Why should fat people take precedence over the elderly in the NHS? (Rationing the only answer )
UK Telegraph ^ | March 26, 2012 | Christina Odone

Posted on 03/27/2012 9:51:03 PM PDT by Innovative

Even the most sentimental champions of the NHS recognise its dark side. Given that its Chief Executive Sir David Nicholson has demanded a £20 billion efficiency saving if the NHS is to survive, and that demographic changes mean millions more elderly people will rely on its services (and space), the NHS can only do one thing: ration.

As the Telegraph reports today, elderly patients are being denied the best cancer care. The figures are alarming: lack of treatment is contributing to 14,000 deaths a year among the over-75s. Men and women are dying prematurely each year because their diseases are diagnosed later and less likely to be operated on.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: healthcare; obamacare; rationing
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Preview of Obamacare -- coming sooner than you think -- the government will decide who is worth treating and who isn't.

The answer is NOT to set different classes of people against each other and have the government decide who lives who dies. The answer is to let the market work, get the government out of our healthcare.

Nobody is deciding that the price of food, or utilities have to be controlled.

1 posted on 03/27/2012 9:51:12 PM PDT by Innovative
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To: Innovative

Let's have a game show, the winner gets medicine, if they're still around by the finish. We can all vote by sickness, and by what they could have done to have prevented it.

2 posted on 03/27/2012 9:56:33 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer; Innovative

Well, let’s not stop at fat folks! How about the promiscuous? Or homosexuals? How about people who are too thin? Come to think of it, the best way for the government to ration health care properly is to dispose of the defective and create a master race of healthy, perfect people! That’s the ticket!

I wonder exactly what kind of health care will be denied obese people? Will they be treated for strep throat or a broken finger, or just by being fat are they automatically unworthy of any concern? It’s a scary future, folks.

3 posted on 03/27/2012 10:43:17 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: Pining_4_TX

I wonder exactly what kind of health care will be denied obese people?

About a year ago I read that the British National Health Service was denying knee surgeries to overweight people.

4 posted on 03/27/2012 10:48:00 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: Pining_4_TX
elderly should not be treated any better or any worse than any other group....

people sound surprised about rationing.....its been coming for years and years....

notice that a lot of diagnostic/preventive measures are now all of a sudden not as "necessary" as before....mammograms, colonoscopies,pap smears,etc...

you know, women used to be able to stay in the hospital for several days after having a baby....when my mother gave birth to her 6th, she was in there for a week, which was the norm then....

now, you're lucky if you get to stay the night or two....

rationing folks.....TPTB will do everything in its power to make you accept less and less and pretend that its the norm...

now if you happen to be rich or a rock star, you can close down a whole maternity ward so you're little pup won't be bothered....

5 posted on 03/27/2012 10:56:39 PM PDT by cherry
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To: trappedincanuckistan

if you’re not a perfect specimen, maybe not the right religion, or maybe not the right politics, TPTB will find a reason to ration health care....

6 posted on 03/27/2012 10:59:22 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry

I live in Canada. I’m disabled. I know they’re coming for me at some point :)

7 posted on 03/27/2012 11:02:15 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: cherry
"maybe not the right religion"

Or any religion at all.

Seems that they're about to "prove" that religious sentiment is a brain defect.

Maybe then we'll be stuck with faith healers and their blue-haired, mascara-encrusted wives.

8 posted on 03/27/2012 11:44:52 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Innovative
get the government out of our healthcare.

true -- it is also a horrible decision to make -- who dies and who doesn't. Essentially any government healthcare should be limited to the poorest of the poor. For the poor subsidies. For those who can afford it, we should pay.

I agree that the best is to remove it completely, but how would the poorest of the poor survive? Yes, I would love to say that we Christians would take care of them, but I think healthcare has improved when the poor got state healthcare (or am I wrong? If I am, please do point it out -- I don't know this history very well)

9 posted on 03/28/2012 12:48:32 AM PDT by Cronos (Party like it's 12 20, 2012)
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To: Innovative

Whilst not wanting in anyway to defend Obama’s plans for health reform, when discussing healthcare in the UK, you have to remember one thing - the NHS is not a monopoly and if you don’t like it there are plenty of alternatives.

Private healthcare is relatively affordable and included with most decent jobs. The only people who have no choice but to use the NHS are those who are very poor or prefer to spend their money elsewhere.

10 posted on 03/28/2012 4:17:00 AM PDT by Caulkhead
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