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Trayvon Martinís murder is bigger than racism
The A&T Register ^ | March 28, 2012 | Trumaine McCaskill

Posted on 03/28/2012 5:36:38 AM PDT by SJackson

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To: Haiku Guy

On your chart Hispanics are categorized as “White”. Break out Hispanics and the true “white” crime numbers are very low.


51 posted on 03/28/2012 6:57:48 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: SJackson

Ah yes. An racial crime, and the friends of the victim are crying for BLOOD! Newsmen are crying for BLOOD! The public wants BLOOD! A lynching is in order, no need for a trial, he is guilty because of his skin color! Find a lamp post and HANG HIM!

To show solidarity with the victim all those in the lynch party are wearing HOODS, even US Senators!

OH WAIT! I’m getting 2012 mixed up with the KKK of 1920s! No difference.


52 posted on 03/28/2012 6:59:10 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: SJackson

“Trayvon Martin’s murder is bigger than racism.”

I’ve come to the inevitable conclusion that there are many more worse things in the world than racism...but try telling that to a group of liberal racists!

Murder for example, is worse than racism and Trayvon Martin’s murder is not “bigger” than racism. “Bigger” and “worse” aren’t really interchangeable in this context.

Only the media makes it a “bigger” issue. In the grand scheme of things, murder is the worst with rape and child molestation right up there with it.


53 posted on 03/28/2012 7:05:59 AM PDT by equaviator
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To: SJackson

This article misses the critical factor, by far the most important reason all these young black men die.

Lack of character and a willingness to embrace crime and violence against others.

Take Mr. Trayvon Martin, for example. If you look at the messages he wrote on Twitter, several things are blindingly obvious.

The first is that he was literate, yet rejected literacy in favor of gutter speak.

Second is that he was a misogynist. He was crude, gross and foul to girls he bantered with.

The third is that he wanted to be thought of as a “tough guy ‘gangsta’”.

And fourth is that he was a “black on black” racist. Using the “n-word” as a term of endearment. Psychologically that just reinforces that word as demeaning and hurtful.

It is not acceptable for parents of any kind to raise children like that, or to tolerate their children acting like that, for it is a path to failure and destruction.

By all rights, the path for success for black Americans is found both in inhibition and intolerance for such behavior. To become even “overly moral” and “formally polite” even in informal circumstances. To dress “up” instead of dressing “down”.

Most importantly, black Americans need to utterly shun bad behavior by other black Americans.

The black comedian Chris Rock saw a glimmer of this problem in a comedy routine when he imagined a black man with a Master’s degree meeting an ex-convict black man. The ex-con is not impressed with the Master’s degree, because in his mind, getting it was easy compared to doing time in prison, which is likewise seen as more prestigious in the black community.

As things stand now, 1 in 4 or more young black men are either in prison, on probation, or under some other legal control.

The response of the black community to this is awful as well, because from the point of view of these young men committing crimes, hurting other people, and otherwise misbehaving, is *not* the problem.

It is that they are being *punished* for doing these things.

Why should the black community expect respect and consideration when they give none to anyone else? Why should anyone else respect bad parenting that produces huge number of criminals, and an utter blindness to this, as well as an unwillingness to change?

Simply put, if “Sons of Obama” wish to rob, assault, abuse and even murder each other as well as members of the public at large, why should the rest of society tolerate it at all?

Fair is fair.


54 posted on 03/28/2012 7:08:16 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." -- Hillary Clinton)
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To: equaviator

my point exactly...


55 posted on 03/28/2012 7:16:12 AM PDT by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: SJackson
"Martin died because of racial profiling. "

Lost me right there... Couldn't read another word from this article.

That statement blatantly incorrect. The boy was mulling around a gated community at what 1:00 in the morning? Who does that? Doesn't matter what color your skin is, people that live there will be suspicious of you.

Done. I refuse to read the rest! I for one have never been a racist - but I do not like particular traits in people and will avoid those traits like the plague. I don't even have to see your color to know I want nothing to do with you! I guess that makes me a personalicist. New word - personalicist (one not liking particular personal traits)
56 posted on 03/28/2012 7:17:12 AM PDT by jcsjcm (This country was built on exceptionalism and individualism. In God we Trust - Laus Deo)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

“...he was a “black on black” racist. Using the “n-word” as a term of endearment.”

That is NOT racist. NOT if he was really using it as a term of endearment.

I have a friend who has worked at the Ford Axle plant in SE Michigan for 30+ years. He’s got a lot of close friends in Skilled Trades. As a joke, they greet each other in the morning by saying, “You ASSh*le!”...and Nobody is offended except for the busy-bodies who aren’t part of that inner circle and frankly, it’s none of their damned business because nobody is talking to them anyway.


57 posted on 03/28/2012 7:19:09 AM PDT by equaviator
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To: SJackson

What about black on white crime? Blacks make up 12% of the population - are they responsible for less than 12% of murders involving white victims? The author might find a way to work this in as a talking point as well. Where is the press on these black on white crimes (and why do they frequently hide perp’s race in these instances?)

Trick question, I know.


58 posted on 03/28/2012 7:20:17 AM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: Haiku Guy

I wonder how the chart would read if Hispanics were broke out instead of including them with White. (I am assuming but would be willing to wager that is what they are doing here)


59 posted on 03/28/2012 7:20:17 AM PDT by hans56
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To: MrB

President Skittles does his best to assure that racism is a useful tool when called upon in the failure of leadership and ideas.


60 posted on 03/28/2012 7:25:35 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Here is one story from this week. I wonder if these 3 are obama sons!

March 27 (Reuters) - A third man is facing a murder charge
after the fatal shooting of a student at a Mississippi State
University residence hall, authorities said on Tuesday.

John Sanderson, 21, of Madison, Mississippi, died after
being shot Saturday night in a dorm room on the Mississippi
State campus. It was the first campus shooting in the school’s
history, the university president said.

Trent Deundra Crump, 21, was being held by authorities in
Gainesville, Florida after his arrest on Tuesday on a capital
murder charge, said university spokeswoman Maridith Geuder.

Two other suspects, Duntae Harvey and Mason Perry Jones,
also both 21, were arrested on Monday on the same charge,
officials said.

Story #2
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-03-04/news/31122324_1_white-boy-fire-tv-station

Teens set kid on fire for being ‘white boy’


61 posted on 03/28/2012 7:32:50 AM PDT by jcsjcm (This country was built on exceptionalism and individualism. In God we Trust - Laus Deo)
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To: MrB
Shouldn’t it be “representative” of the 8 to 1 ratio?

Obviously, blacks are committing murder at a much higher rate than whites, since the gross numbers are about the same, but blacks are a much smaller segment of the population.

But of murders committed by blacks, 83% of the victims are other blacks, but only 14% are whites.

The inter-racial murders are the ones that wind up on the front page, but both blacks and whites kill each other at a much higher rate.

62 posted on 03/28/2012 7:36:36 AM PDT by Haiku Guy ("The problem with Internet Quotes is that you never know if they are real" -- Abraham Lincoln)
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To: RoosterRedux
He was not arrested because the police thought the shooting was in self defense

Actually they thought it was "NEGLIGENT MANSLAUGHTER - UNNECESSARY KILLING TO PREVENT UNLAWFUL ACT"

63 posted on 03/28/2012 7:38:17 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (This world is a comedy to those that think, a tragedy to those that feel - Horace Walpole)
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To: RoosterRedux
I know of NO Whites who hate blacks...

I do...but I ignore racist morons.

64 posted on 03/28/2012 7:53:10 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Oztrich Boy
Thx! I stand corrected...

Trayvon Martin Police Report

65 posted on 03/28/2012 9:06:11 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: SJackson; ClearCase_guy; Eldon Tyrell; steve8714; bereanway; dps.inspect; philman_36; ...

911 tape of Zimmerman calling the cops:

http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/911/call1.wav


66 posted on 03/28/2012 9:18:20 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrat-Media Complex - buried stories and distorted facts... freeper 'andrew' Breitbart)
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To: SJackson; ClearCase_guy; Eldon Tyrell; steve8714; bereanway; dps.inspect; philman_36; ...

Video of New York Times connected elite ‘journalists’ talking about manipulating the news to help Obama and other liberals ( when they don’t know a conservative is in the room taping)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBFOmUXR080


67 posted on 03/28/2012 9:21:23 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrat-Media Complex - buried stories and distorted facts... freeper 'andrew' Breitbart)
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To: equaviator

Actually it is. I used to think that the “n-word” could be used in the generic as a term of endearment, but it is truly unique, because its context is exclusively one of servitude and inferiority.

As such, it reinforces opinions of victimization and incapability among black people, in any context.

This has been recognized in other circumstances as well, such as parents who frequently call their children “stupid”. At a deep, psychological level it hits hard, with children often growing up defining themselves as stupid.

Comparatively, individuals who call each other “A-hole”, may indeed do so in a state of camaraderie, yet even then it is still tinged with passive-aggressiveness.


68 posted on 03/28/2012 9:35:36 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Be Brave! Fear is just the opposite of Nar!")
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

“Actually it is.”

You have a right to your opinion.


69 posted on 03/28/2012 9:41:12 AM PDT by equaviator
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To: SJackson
This article generalizes the situation without bothering to examine what really happened: eye witnesses state that it was self-defense on Zimmerman's part.
70 posted on 03/28/2012 9:41:35 AM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: dps.inspect

I was referring to your post about him being fatherless, not the earlier post.


71 posted on 03/28/2012 9:50:05 AM PDT by marvlus
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To: equaviator

Unfortunately this friendly banter affects the rest of society, at which point it stops being private. And while it is only a small part of the problem, it is part of the problem.

Black Americans have been pushing the rest of society so hard, and for so long, it is becoming intolerable. Eventually something far worse is going to happen unless they get their act together and stop raising hundreds of thousands of criminals.

And whatever this is, it would be a lot harsher than telling them to quit calling each other by the “n-word” and a hundred other such things.

Statistics show that children of single parents are 60% more likely to become social problems. So why don’t black leaders say “no babies unless you are married?” Some, a few, do. But it’s not enough.

Seriously, things are now so bad I would not be surprised to see a law by which all black children would be taken from their parents and raised by the state, unless the parents are married, have good jobs, etc.


72 posted on 03/28/2012 9:53:18 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Be Brave! Fear is just the opposite of Nar!")
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

“Unfortunately this friendly banter affects the rest of society,”

Especially where there is no sense of humor but whose fault is that? I am not responsible for other people’s lack of a sense of humor.


73 posted on 03/28/2012 10:16:05 AM PDT by equaviator
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To: SJackson
It wasn't Racial so the entire article is self flagellation.
74 posted on 03/28/2012 10:19:12 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (A day without Obama is like a day without a Tsunami.)
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To: GOPJ

Thanks for the links.


75 posted on 03/28/2012 10:56:39 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: SJackson
Racist author trying to sound knowledgable. Fails.
76 posted on 03/28/2012 2:12:25 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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