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History Shows: Odds Against Obama's Second Term
Townhall.com ^ | March 28, 2012 | Michael Medved

Posted on 03/28/2012 6:05:09 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

Yeah, right. Lessee.

We (the GOP) have the former Governor of the Bluest State in the Union, who has more baggage than a full jumbo jet headed overseas, and is a member of a weird religion (no, I’m not an anti-Mormon bigot - face the facts, by most standards, Mormonism IS weird).

Obama has the MSM pulling for him, along with ACORN and the Unions and most major urban area governments, all of whom are prepared to commit massive vote fraud in his favor. He has enormous sums of money (so what if his fund raising falling off a bit - he still has tons of money) and didn’t have to spend any of it a primary. He has the support of the parasite classes and the illegal aliens. He has a sizable minority that will vote for him, no matter what.

The only thing holding him back is his record or lack thereof. His major accomplishment, ObamaCare, is incredibly unpopular with the general populace, and may, possibly, be nullified by the SCOTUS. Of course, Romney has the same issue with RomneyCare, in the People’s Democratic Republic of Massachusetts.

Add to that, the fact that the ‘Pubbies are too gutless to hit Obama hard where it counts, and you can see a crippled GOP campaign.

Folks, get real. It ain’t lookin’ good. Unpopular or not, Obama has a lot of edges and will be hard to beat.

And even if Romney wins, we’re probably not going to like him much.


21 posted on 03/28/2012 6:54:50 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Kaslin
...he doesn’t count as either a sure loser with a thin or non-existent list of accomplishments...

In my book he is a loser (about the nicest thing I could say about him) and he has a list of accomplishments - all, 100% bad. I cannot think of any President, going all the way back to Nixon, that has such a completely negative track record. Consider:

I'm sure I could go google "obama failures" and come up with a list of hundreds. These are just the ones off the top of my head (BC - before coffee). You all get the idea. hussein is the most accomplished (negatively) President ever. If he wasn't a textbook narcissist he wouldn't even try for re-election. Has to be counting on trying to steal/manipulate his way back into office.

22 posted on 03/28/2012 6:57:07 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Standing Wolf

I agree, What the Looter class does not understand is that a cow has to be bred once in a while or they go dry.

Our cow is starting to go dry.

It is time to ease off on the milking and start thinking of getting her bred or there will be no milk for anyone, and she will end up as a McDonalds hamburger.


23 posted on 03/28/2012 6:57:50 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: WayneS

I don’t think the GOP intends to take the white house this time. We need to get rid of the GOP leadership as badly as we need to get rid of Obama.

I’d happily make a deal to vote for Romney in return for the resignations of McCain, Graham, Boehner and about a dozen others.


24 posted on 03/28/2012 6:59:56 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Little Ray

Obama will win, and by a landslide. We are living in a country whose people are no longer guided by wisdom, and who, in fact, disdain it. The population has been intentionally dumbed-down, as evidenced by the fact that it elected Obama to office. There is no opposition to his rule; if there were, there would be legitimate candidates being offered up from the Republican “side”, which I am beginning to doubt exists any longer.


25 posted on 03/28/2012 7:08:27 AM PDT by drwoof
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To: Graewoulf
With these early chief executives withdrawn from the equation, 70 percent of those who have served as president since 1825 (26 of 37) failed to win two consecutive terms.

BTW, I haven’t taken my shoes and socks off to check the math, so if any of my FRiends can prove me wrong, I would be DELIGHTED that you did so.

You are using selective math.

Be choosing the subset that you picked, the numbers are correct, but the choice skews the results.

Did you know that zero percent of black pResidents have ever been re-elected?

26 posted on 03/28/2012 7:11:06 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorists savages.)
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To: USS Alaska

” - - - the numbers are correct, - - - “

Whew! Thanks! I was going to take my shoes and socks off right after my second cup of coffee, but you have saved me the trouble! Thanks!!!!!

______

My point was that there are a lot of factors in calculating predictability from such a small set of numbers, and I chose one subset to show that it is probable BY THE NUMBERS that The Obamanator will be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!

_________

BTW, send some rain our way, as Texas is still in a drought!


27 posted on 03/28/2012 7:27:47 AM PDT by Graewoulf ((Dictator Baby-Doc Barack's obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND U.S. Constitution.))
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To: FreeAtlanta

If he were a white man, there is ZERO chance he would win a second term, but Obama has racism in his deck of cards.

If he were a white man, there is ZERO chance he would have won 1 term, but Obama has racism in his deck of cards.


28 posted on 03/28/2012 7:52:43 AM PDT by birdsman (NAAWP)
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To: Graewoulf
BTW, send some rain our way, as Texas is still in a drought!

I'd love to.

In W PA it is now raining like a Texas longhorn pissing on a flat rock.

We have had so much rain this winter, that even my multiple french drains are passed helping.

Algore is correct, weather changes and obama is also correct, we all are hoping for change.

Hey brother, can you spare a dime?

29 posted on 03/28/2012 8:06:21 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorists savages.)
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To: Kaslin
I like Medved, but he's too much of a "both sides" do it type of guy. "fickle public" is an example of this. Who's been "fickle" since Obama's election? The public or Obama? Obama campaigned as a centrist, who would cut the deficit, have a sensible foreign policy and be President of ALL Americans, not Red State or Blue State.

All of these items and many more were lies. Obama's ruled against the will of the American People, against the Constitution and against the law. The public is innocent of all of this.

Who's fickle again?

30 posted on 03/28/2012 8:28:05 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

Bump


31 posted on 03/28/2012 8:37:50 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

Bad enough Medved is a RINO, but tripe like this is worthless.

I can sum up his entire atricle in 5 words: Presidents usaully don’t win re-election.

So, why did Reagan and Clinton and Baby Bush get re-elected. The economy.

Why did Carter and Daddy Bush get unelected. The economy.

It’s the economy, stupid. That is why this idiot article from RINO Medved, and his “this could go either way but odds are against re-election” is worthless.

This is Carter II. We don’t have the massive inflation, but unemployment is worse as is real GDP growth. Everything they are calling GDP growth is the FED buying it’s own debt and wartime deficit spending. There is no genuine GDP growth. GDP should be shrinking.

No, Obama has no chance against this Carter II economy. A RINO like Medved isn’t capable of seeing that.


32 posted on 03/28/2012 11:14:53 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: Little Ray

Obama will win, and by a landslide. We are living in a country whose people are no longer guided by wisdom, and who, in fact, disdain it. The population has been intentionally dumbed-down, as evidenced by the fact that it elected Obama to office. There is no opposition to his rule; if there were, there would be legitimate candidates being offered up from the Republican “side”, which I am beginning to doubt exists any longer.


33 posted on 03/28/2012 11:57:36 AM PDT by drwoof
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To: C210N

“Didn’t ZerO effectively blurt this to Medvedev the other day?”

He sure sounded awfully confident that he was going to win.

(One wonders what will happen to this big ball of wax.)


34 posted on 03/28/2012 12:04:49 PM PDT by ripley
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
You didn't read the article did you? Two points: In the second paragraph Medved writes Of the 42 men who served as president before the current incumbent, only 15 won two consecutive elections. The other one: In the last sentence of the last paragraph he writes Clearly, this particular race could go either way, but history shows that whenever once-elected presidents seek a second chance, more often than not the people say no.

BTW I don't listen to Medved, but just because you call him a RINO, doesn't make him one.

35 posted on 03/28/2012 1:03:17 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

Yes, I scanned the entire article. Scanned as in, quickly read the entire article. In your points, you even left out the point he made that the trend of 2 termers was much stronger early in US history and not so strong now.

My response was not that he was wrong, but that he was right for the wrong reason - hence the worthlessness of this article.

I fully explained my position that the recent 2 termers from Reagan to Clinton, got credit for strong economies, while the recent one termers got blame for weak economies.

We are in a weak economy. That is all you need to know. Medved acts like the 2nd term presidential election is just some random coin flip with the incumbent losing more than 50% of the time. If I didn’t know better, the article reads like it is giving cover to Obama for losing re-election. I realize that is not the jist of the article.

But the article treats this election like a coin flip, when it is not. Obama will lose because the economy stinks. That is the point I made in my response, against Medved’s coin flip.

Hence my conclusion the article is worthless. It doesn’t take into account the economies and circumstances of those who won and lost re-election.

Calling him a RINO was just a thtow-away comment. You are right that saying it doesn’t make it true. Looks like I’m far from the only one who knows this.

“Obama Isn’t Trying to ‘Weaken America’ (RINO op-ed)”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2673459/posts

“Vanity Radio [Rebuttal to Medved’s RINO love-letter]”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1782832/posts

Don’t Pin Your Hopes On Palin (Michael Medved Demands Moderate Candidates, GOP Nominee In 2012)

http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/2639738/posts

RINO Michael Medved rips Rush Limbaugh for ripping Obama

http://www.mofopolitics.com/2011/02/20/rino-michael-medved-rips-rush-limbaugh-for-ripping-obama/

RINO Michael Medved Supports Open Primaries

http://www.saveourstate.info/showthread.php?t=1488

Michael Medved Rejects Conservatives and Embraces Romney

http://www.redstate.com/erick/2011/11/23/michael-medved-rejects-conservatives-and-embraces-romney/

Six Big Lies About John McCain

http://townhall.com/columnists/michaelmedved/2008/01/23/six_big_lies_about_john_mccain/page/full/


36 posted on 03/28/2012 6:39:36 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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