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To: floriduh voter
Is that the only venue where we will accept them??????????????????

No! They make good housekeepers too!!!

I posted some links on this thread that you might want to look at:

Audio interview of witness who saw the shooting and the aftermath.

Former co-workers describe Zimmerman as a “Jekyll and Hyde".

The mother of the 13-year-old witness claims that he was pressured by the police to taylor what he saw.

Two other witnesses don't believe that Zimmerman was acting in self-defense.

Trayvon’s girlfriend recounts the final moments of her conversation with him before the line went dead.

There are no known cases of violence by Martin but there are several known cases of violence by Zimmerman (as an adult). It is also known, via Zimmerman's call, that Zimmerman followed Martin but that Martin avoided a confrontation by running. Nobody here has any genuine knowledge about what happened after that call and before the 911 calls that reported the fight already in progress.

BTW, since he scored highly on their test, the Navy recruiter visited my son-in-law several times. They were eager for him to sign-up, even thought he is heavily tattooed.

123 posted on 03/30/2012 3:22:59 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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To: Alice in Wonderland; Fantasywriter; All
Let's call a truce or whatever. Ya'll quit hating Trayvon and we will wait for the DA to prosecute George Zimmerman before a jury of his peers. Since it's Florida, there's a good chance he'll get off, just like Casey Anthony who killed little Caylee.

Replying to Alice in Wonderland's post above.

125 posted on 03/30/2012 3:26:52 PM PDT by floriduh voter ( Obamacare is to you as a can of RAID is to a bug. R A I D !)
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To: Alice in Wonderland

“Alice in Wonderland”

Appropriate.

In the future when offered two pills don’t take either rather than both.


133 posted on 03/30/2012 3:54:25 PM PDT by Eaker (Remember, the enemy tends to wise up at the least convenient moments.)
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To: Alice in Wonderland
AIW, there are certainly some people here who can only see the negatives in Trayvon Martin. I submit you can only see the negatives in Zimmerman and the positives in Martin.

Audio interview of witness who saw the shooting and the aftermath.

Yes, but that's not the only witness, right? And one or more witnesses who saw the shooting and aftermath support the other story, that Martin was on top of Zimmerman, pounding Zimmerman's head into the concrete, and striking Zimmerman. I've acknowledged both sides. Why do you only acknowledge one?

Former co-workers describe Zimmerman as a “Jekyll and Hyde".

Okay. And those tweeting with Martin ask about him swinging at a bus driver. He's a smiling kid in some photos, and flashing gang-type symbols, bare-chested, with 10" of boxer shorts showing in others. He's buying Skittles, but others are Tweeting him about buying weed. Sounds as if could be two Jekylls and Hydes, doesn't it?

The mother of the 13-year-old witness claims that he was pressured by the police to taylor what he saw.

That's troubling. Do you think some of the people who are against guns may be pressured by all of the media attention and civil unrest to tilt their memories and stories after five weeks, so that they now are speaking out when they didn't do it earlier?

Two other witnesses don't believe that Zimmerman was acting in self-defense.

Yes. Have you started to count the witnesses who believe he did? Or are you ignoring them completely?

Trayvon’s girlfriend recounts the final moments of her conversation with him before the line went dead.

This is the girlfriend who didn't come forward until the police found her, right? Do you think she may have an agenda? Do you think that, as Trayvon's girlfriend, she may be prejudiced in her story, either knowingly or unknowingly? If Trayvon's family first thought Trayvon went out at halftime of the NBA game, do you think they got that from her? If she was that inaccurate regarding the NBA game, I wonder what else she got wrong.

There are no known cases of violence by Martin but there are several known cases of violence by Zimmerman.

Hmm. Martin's a lot young, with a shorter past to accumulate 'known cases,' isn't he? Is the media looking into the 'swinging at a bus drive' incident? And 'several' incidents by Zimmerman? 'Several' means three or more. I know of two by Zimmerman - the former girlfriend and shoving the policeman (who wasn't in uniform, but says he ID'd himself; Zimmerman says he didn't). Do you know of a third, or did you exaggerate with 'several'?

It is also known, via Zimmerman's call, that Zimmerman followed Martin but that Martin avoided a confrontation by running.

Zimmerman says he broke off following Martin and was struck when walking back to his SUV. You can't tell from the call, can you? You also can't tell if Martin ran to avoid a confrontation, or simply because he was up to something (I'm not saying he was - I'm just noting that you can't tell from the call). I think you're interpreting things.

Nobody here has any genuine knowledge about what happened after that call and before the 911 calls that reported the fight already in progress.

No, we don't. Tragically, Martin is dead and can't tell us. Zimmerman has told us his story and there's no real evidence to contradict it - in fact, the police say that they have witnesses to back up most of it. They didn't say the witnesses contradict the rest of it - but that witnesses didn't see the other parts. I do know that call #3 on the Sanford page is frightening. AFTER the woman hears calls for help, and decides to call 911, and completes the call and reaches a 911 operator, you can hear just over 40 seconds of someone calling for help before the gunshot.

If you listen to call #1, the voice calling for help sounds distinctly like Zimmerman. I'm not saying it is - and I've never heard Martin - but if you listen to #1 and #3 back to back, you get the idea that somebody (and it sounds like Zimmerman) is being beat for 40 seconds plus the time to decide to call, to call, and to reach a 911 operator. Call it almost a minute.

It wasn't necessarily a 'fight.' It could have been a beating, couldn't it?

It seems you're as guilty as those on here who have convicted Martin; you've just chosen to ignore all exculpatory evidence, and to interpret all other evidence in favor of Martin. You appear to have convicted Zimmerman already.

136 posted on 03/30/2012 4:04:03 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Alice in Wonderland
The mother of the 13-year-old witness claims that he was pressured by the police to taylor what he saw.

Didn't she do that within 24 hours or so of another key event, Alice? What would have been the likely events, plural, to follow that other event?

140 posted on 03/30/2012 4:58:50 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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