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To: Hostage; DiogenesLamp
Assume the image of the long form BC is a forgery. The forger could have printed out the altered document and then rescanned the printed document to get rid of the software evidence of forgery. It would have been the easiest thing to do.

The forger is in Hawaii, no document was printed out. The file was emailed to someone close to Obama and posted on the WH website. I believe one copy was printed out for a chosen few to "look" at. The forger probably didn't think about the layers as he/she was probably under the assumption that the PDF would be printed to show the public the two copies and had no idea that the actual file would be available for downloading. If anyone thinks that someone flew to HI to pick up the "two" certified copies then I have a bridge for sale.

44 posted on 03/29/2012 8:24:36 AM PDT by GregNH (>>>>>I am SO ready to join a brigade of pickup trucks to surround DC<<<<<)
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To: GregNH
The forger is in Hawaii, no document was printed out. The file was emailed to someone close to Obama and posted on the WH website. I believe one copy was printed out for a chosen few to "look" at. The forger probably didn't think about the layers as he/she was probably under the assumption that the PDF would be printed to show the public the two copies and had no idea that the actual file would be available for downloading. If anyone thinks that someone flew to HI to pick up the "two" certified copies then I have a bridge for sale.

Exactly what I think. The only thing I would suggest as a an alternate possibility is that the forger might not have been aware that the layers would expose his(her?) work, or he(she?) may have just forgotten to flatten the image file. Obviously the people handling the file on the White House end were ignorant (probably because they are stupid democrats) and and didn't know they would be posting the evidence of it's own creation when they posted it.

I have suggested that this file may have been sent to Obama's Attorney as a "proof" for him to peruse to insure compliance with his request before the court to amend or replace the document. It would be quite an easy thing for a man knowledgeable in law, but ignorant in the nuts and bolts of computer technology, to send the file on to other ignorant staff members at the White House. Perhaps Obama himself sent the file to his staff after having received it from his attorney?

In any case, this idea makes more sense to me than any other explanation of which I have heard.

47 posted on 03/29/2012 9:29:35 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: GregNH

I will offer that the forger is not in Hawaii.

Except for Fuddy most of the Hawaiins have tried to walk a tight rope on this.

Brian Schatz would not sign a document that indicated Obama was eligible in 2008. He clearly had the eligibility removed from the 2004 template and tried slide it by the elections staff. When it failed Pelosi had to submit the legally required documentation.

Even Janice Okubo’s statments (or the statements she drafted that went out under Fukino’s letterhead) were carefully worded in November of 2008 and July of 2009. In November of 2008 she just said ‘we have records’ period. And the press praised the resolution of the issue. When that did not work they offered up the more beefy statement in July of 2009 after the House of Representatives passed the resolution for Hawaii’s 50th birthday and included that it was the birthplace of Obama. Even that statement had weasel words like ‘the records indicate...’. Well of course by then some sort of records somewhere said ‘born in Hawaii’. And even the ‘natural born American citizen’ is a careful way of feeding the press what they want without actually using the actual Article II, Section 1 verbiage.

And remember the nominated HDOH doctor who was forced to withdraw due to never confirmed reports of issues in his past. He must have signaled he would not play ball and was toss aside and smeared in the process. Even Abercrombie himself got wishy-washy after promising to clear this up in early 2011.

Fuddy’s behind is hanging out. She clearly provided the cover letter to the White House for the April 27, 2011 event. Unless she is lying - in writing - she probably did provide something to the WH attorneys. Did they fly all the way to Hawaii? Probably not. But if she provided real records that were then altered and manipulated and presented as real by the WH she is guilty of staying silent. But assuming she did provide records she and her lawyer probably have copies as their hidden (hopefully) get out of jail free material.

So the Hawaiians have played ball for the WH...but they obviously have stop short of (most) actions that would send them directly to jail should this blow up - which it now is.

Only when those who have knowledge feel more personally threatened by those on the right side of this and start making deals will the dominoes start to fall. This will put the ‘useful idiots’ and pawns in jeopardy. But this is price of being being a pawn in the game.

The Hawaiians that know are Schatz and Okubo and Atty. William Gilardy - Stanley Ann’s lawyer when she divorced Soetoro. Those three should be put in separate rooms until they come clean.


55 posted on 03/29/2012 10:24:03 AM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: GregNH

Sorry, I don’t buy the argument that the forger didn’t think about the layers when they prepared it to show the public and sent the document PDF unaware that it would be posted as is. ANYONE who has working knowledge of any of the Photoshop products knows that a working copy (PSD file, usually) is very large, mine sometimes are 100mg or more in size. It is very easy to flatten the image to reduce the size in mgs, convert it to PDF or jpeg, and the smaller size much easier to send via email or to post to the web.

Whoever did this, left the document as a PSD file (or whatever PI uses) on purpose.

That’s my 2-cents.


68 posted on 03/29/2012 3:10:02 PM PDT by eagles_rest ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves." ---)
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