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Bestwood meat cleaver killing was 'justified', says coroner
This is Nottingham ^ | 27 March 2012 | unattributed

Posted on 03/28/2012 11:01:20 PM PDT by smokingfrog

A FATHER who killed a burglar by attacking him with a meat cleaver was "justified", a Notts coroner has ruled.

Steven Shaw and his brother Craig broke into a house in Morrell Bank on the Bestwood Estate on March 31 last year.

In a "harrowing and brutal" attack, which lasted between 10 and 15 minutes, they assaulted taxi driver Xiaopeng Wang and his wife, and also left the couple's baby injured.

The violence only stopped when Mr Wang found a meat clever and hit Mr Shaw with it, causing a "sharp force trauma" to his head.

At Mr Shaw's inquest yesterday, Notts Coroner Mairin Casey recorded a verdict of lawful killing and said: "The defensive action taken by Mr Wang was proportionate and justified.

(Excerpt) Read more at thisisnottingham.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: robbery; selfdefense
It's always good to have a meat cleaver handy - just in case.
1 posted on 03/28/2012 11:01:27 PM PDT by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

Read the article. Couldn’t figure out if it was Steve or Craig who took the cleaver blow in the face.


2 posted on 03/28/2012 11:12:34 PM PDT by SatinDoll (No Foreign Nationals as our President!)
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To: smokingfrog

Those meat cleavers do some damage, even the smaller ones with the six-inch blades (which I usually use for chopping up ribs) . . .


3 posted on 03/28/2012 11:13:44 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: SatinDoll

Craig is going to jail.

Stevie is dead, from a cleaver blow to the head.


4 posted on 03/28/2012 11:17:22 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

Thanks. I wonder if Craig learned anything from this misadventure?


5 posted on 03/28/2012 11:18:33 PM PDT by SatinDoll (No Foreign Nationals as our President!)
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To: SatinDoll

who took the cleaver blow in the face.

“Cleaver, it’s not nice to hit other boys in the face.”

“Yesss Mom”

” Now go and wash up, dinners almost ready.”

“Hi Mrs.Cleaver, you look lovely today”.

“That Eddie Haskel is such a nice boy,
Cleaver, why can’t you be more like him?”

“Yesss Mom”


6 posted on 03/28/2012 11:23:21 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68

Headline: Wang takes cleaver to head.


7 posted on 03/28/2012 11:24:56 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: smokingfrog

Has Obama said the one who took the cleaver blow to the head could be his son?


8 posted on 03/28/2012 11:33:27 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between lose and loose.)
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To: smokingfrog
found a meat clever and hit Mr Shaw with it, causing a "sharp force trauma" to his head.

Mofo got WANG CHUNG.

9 posted on 03/28/2012 11:35:37 PM PDT by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: smokingfrog

Moral of the story: Don’t beat Mr. Wang.


10 posted on 03/28/2012 11:45:05 PM PDT by MARTIAL MONK (I'm waiting for the POP!)
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To: smokingfrog

Too bad he didn’t whack the other one with it too.


11 posted on 03/29/2012 12:02:44 AM PDT by Bon mots ("When seconds count, the police are just minutes away...")
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To: smokingfrog

Is it just me.....or does anyone find it odd that, in the UK, it’s the coroner who decides if a killing is justified or not?


12 posted on 03/29/2012 12:08:12 AM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: smokingfrog

This is really from the UK?

I thought defending yourself and your family from criminals was against the law over there.


13 posted on 03/29/2012 12:09:01 AM PDT by Yehuda (http://jewpoint.blogspot.com)
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To: smokingfrog
The violence only stopped when Mr Wang found a meat clever and hit Mr Shaw with it, causing a "sharp force trauma" to his head.

Yep, that'll work

14 posted on 03/29/2012 12:09:11 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Yehuda
I thought defending yourself and your family from criminals was against the law over there.

That's a myth which refuses to die, despite frequent patient efforts of British FReepers over the years to explain what the law actually is.

15 posted on 03/29/2012 12:16:53 AM PDT by Winniesboy
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To: RightOnline
it’s the coroner who decides if a killing is justified or not?

That's not quite right. The police and Crown Prosecution Service decided in this, and other similar cases, that no crime had been committed and therefore no charges were brought. However, a coroner's inquest is still legally required, since there has been a sudden violent death: and 'lawful killing' is one of the verdicts available to the coroner. The decision not to prosecute would have been made long before the inquest took place, so the verdict was really a formality.

16 posted on 03/29/2012 12:22:07 AM PDT by Winniesboy
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To: Winniesboy

OK; I appreciate the clarification. Without the backgrounder you provided, it made no sense to me.


17 posted on 03/29/2012 12:33:53 AM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: smokingfrog

Mr. Wang is very fortunate that Mr. Shaw was, I assume, not a correctly pigmented individual wearing a hoodie.

I wonder if Prime Minister David Cameron said that if he had a son he’d look like Mr. Shaw.


18 posted on 03/29/2012 12:39:44 AM PDT by waus (FUBO UFCMF, Just in case I stuttered, FUBO)
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To: RightOnline

does anyone find it odd that, in the UK, it’s the coroner who decides if a killing is justified or not?..Yes. All this time I thought it was the media and NAACP that made those decisions.


19 posted on 03/29/2012 12:53:59 AM PDT by Safetgiver (I'd rather die under a free American sky than live under a Socialist regime.)
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To: Winniesboy

At their best your self defense laws still stink.


20 posted on 03/29/2012 2:04:20 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: paul51; smokingfrog
"The violence only stopped when Mr Wang found a meat clever and hit Mr Shaw with it, causing a "sharp force trauma" to his head."

"Yep, that'll work"

This calls for some theme music.

21 posted on 03/29/2012 2:27:41 AM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: tet68

They ought to have a new show comprised of thugs called: Leave it to Cleaver.


22 posted on 03/29/2012 8:04:49 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: smokingfrog

“Mr Wang found a meat clever and hit Mr Shaw with it, causing a “sharp force trauma” to his head.”

Ooh, I bet Shaw had a splitting headache after that!

*rimshot*


23 posted on 03/29/2012 8:35:47 AM PDT by DemforBush (A Repo man is *always* intense!)
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To: MARTIAL MONK; tx_eggman
Moral of the story: Don’t beat Mr. Wang.

My daddy told me that all the time when I was young. I stopped just in time.


24 posted on 03/29/2012 8:50:42 AM PDT by SpinnerWebb (In 2012 you will awaken from your HOPEnosis and have no recollection of this... "Constitution")
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To: SpinnerWebb

you owe me a keyboard and a screen clean up


25 posted on 03/29/2012 10:10:07 AM PDT by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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