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Funeral director saw no signs of fight on Trayvonís hands
CNN ^ | 3/28/2012

Posted on 03/29/2012 3:14:02 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

The funeral director who prepared Trayvon Martin’s body for burial told HLN’s Nancy Grace Wednesday that he did not see any cuts or bruises on the teen’s hands that would have been indicative of a struggle with George Zimmerman.

Richard Kurtz of Roy Mizell and Kurtz Funeral Home in Fort Lauderdale said there appeared to be a gunshot wound in Martin’s upper chest area, but he received the body after the autopsy was completed so it was difficult to tell whether he had other injuries. He also could not determine the bullet’s entry or exit point.

“As for his hands and knuckles, I didn’t see any evidence he had been fighting anybody,” Kurtz said.

(Excerpt) Read more at nancygrace.blogs.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: bias; race; trayvonmartin
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SO this guy remembers specifics about a funeral he did nearly a month ago.

Don't ask if his race has anything to do with his non-expert opinion.

1 posted on 03/29/2012 3:14:06 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

You don’t need to use fists to slam someone’s head into a solid object, or to knock them down and kick them.

Also: if you are grappling then you can knee them in the face.


2 posted on 03/29/2012 3:33:57 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: SoFloFreeper
Like I said on an earlier post.
Hang him in the town square.
Don't dare let the investigation go any further.
LSM can't let it go any further as it would result in massive riots if it turns out Zimmerman is telling the truth. . . . .
3 posted on 03/29/2012 3:42:47 AM PDT by DeaconRed (Stupid is as stupid does.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Well at least he confirmed that Trayvon was shot in the chest and not the back of the head like the last lie that was told. As for no marks on Trayvons hands, I guess the eyewitness must be discredited who saw Zimmerman on the ground yelling for help with a red shirt as he got beaten up. The EMT’s and the police are just liars and so is the eyewitness. Right!


4 posted on 03/29/2012 3:44:39 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather ("We Need To Teach The Establishment a Lesson" - Newt Gingrich)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Let's just try him on CNN and have folks call-in vote on his guilt or innocence like American Idol. We'll call it "American Hoodie"

VOTE:

Guilty dial: 1-800 G-U-I-L-T-Y

Not-Guilty dial: 1-800 R-A-S-I-S-T

5 posted on 03/29/2012 3:47:27 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: SoFloFreeper

http://www.mizellandkurtzfuneralhome.com/


6 posted on 03/29/2012 3:48:53 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: SoFloFreeper
he did not see any cuts or bruises on the teen’s hands that would have been indicative of a struggle with George Zimmerman.

Bruises do not form (except for lividity) after death and certainly not over the course of a few minutes before death.
7 posted on 03/29/2012 3:57:36 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan

I think he used his iced tea can to hit Zimmerman.


8 posted on 03/29/2012 3:58:49 AM PDT by somerville
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To: broken_arrow1
I dialed the NOT GUILTY number and got a phone sex line.
I will be busy for a while
Bye for now. . . . . . . .
9 posted on 03/29/2012 4:04:19 AM PDT by DeaconRed (Stupid is as stupid does.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

well thank goodness funeral directors aren’t coroners


10 posted on 03/29/2012 4:04:40 AM PDT by blueplum
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To: SoFloFreeper

One punch in the nose would not mark up Martin’s hand. After that he was apparently banging Zimmerman’s head on the ground. So there wouldn’t be any marks on Martin’s hands in the account given by Zimmerman.

At any rate, we have an autopsy to rely on for such info.


11 posted on 03/29/2012 4:05:47 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: SoFloFreeper

I will bet that statement was from a black funeral director.


12 posted on 03/29/2012 4:06:51 AM PDT by bmwcyle (I am ready to serve Jesus on Earth because the GOP failed again)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Can’t even follow the gunshot wound, I doubt he would know anything more about anything else. Coroner will mop the floor with him in court.


13 posted on 03/29/2012 4:27:01 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: bmwcyle
The want a race riot in Sanford. We all know their are pictures of both people at the scene. The DOJ and a Special DA in Florida has been appointed.

yet no arrests.

14 posted on 03/29/2012 4:28:21 AM PDT by scooby321
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To: bmwcyle; Sacajaweau

I will bet that statement was from a black funeral director.

We are an independently family owned and operated business, serving the African-American community in South Florida for over 5 decades.

Clicking on the link provided by Sacajaweau in Post #6 above revealed the above.

15 posted on 03/29/2012 4:28:42 AM PDT by Zakeet (Obozo is to competent as an Etch-A-Sketch is to art)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Nancy, you ignorant slut. Why you didn’t crawl into a hole and disappear from the public eye forever after the debacle the Duke lacrosse exoneration represented to you, I will never know. It amazes me that people still watch her after that.


16 posted on 03/29/2012 4:31:16 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Zakeet

I guess he wants to drum up more business.


17 posted on 03/29/2012 4:31:37 AM PDT by bmwcyle (I am ready to serve Jesus on Earth because the GOP failed again)
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To: SoFloFreeper

The funeral director’s observations mean *nothing*.It’s the ME who determines what did...and did not...happen.I wonder if it would be “Dr G” of Orange County.


18 posted on 03/29/2012 4:31:52 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter Is No Longer The Worst President To Have Served In My Lifetime.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I’ll wait for the autopsy report.


19 posted on 03/29/2012 4:34:03 AM PDT by BilLies (Ass.Press ABCBSNBCNN, NYTimes, WaPOSt , etc., hate your Traditional American guts!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

This means nothing. Of course, the fact that this should mean nothing means nothing.


20 posted on 03/29/2012 4:35:28 AM PDT by socal_parrot (I hate to say I told you so, but...)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Seems the media is working hard to refute the recent “other side” leaking out.

ABC had video last night “which showed” no bleeding to head (from 400 feet away after he was probably cleaned up). Now CNN interviews the funeral director.

I wish they wee this inquisitive with Obama.


21 posted on 03/29/2012 4:38:05 AM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else (Maybe Tim Thomas))
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To: Zakeet
African-American community in South Florida for over 5 decades

Bet they have serviced a lot of young men over the years. Surprised they did not reference their expertise and experience of the cosmetic work done by their firm on shooting and knifing clientèle.

22 posted on 03/29/2012 4:42:22 AM PDT by BilLies (Ass.Press ABCBSNBCNN, NYTimes, WaPOSt , etc., hate your Traditional American guts!)
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To: nhwingut

Shhh thats racist


23 posted on 03/29/2012 4:43:07 AM PDT by italianquaker ( Mr Obama inherited an AAA rating and made it AA, thnx Resident Zero)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Perhaps the autopsy report will be more specific.


24 posted on 03/29/2012 4:43:20 AM PDT by Jaidyn
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To: aruanan

Just the usual propaganda


25 posted on 03/29/2012 4:43:28 AM PDT by Eldon Tyrell
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To: SoFloFreeper

I started diregarding anything Nancy Grace had to say way back during the whole lacrosse fiasco. Week after week she was full speed ahead with the premise that they were all guilty as sin and ridiculed anyone who even suggested that the prosecution’s case just didn’t seem to add up. Dirty b*tch. I’m disgusted that she’s still on.


26 posted on 03/29/2012 4:56:38 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969

I can’t believe Nancy Disgrace is still on the air or ever was to begin with.


27 posted on 03/29/2012 5:05:57 AM PDT by shelterguy
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To: SoFloFreeper

“(He) said there appeared to be a gunshot wound in Martin’s upper chest area, but he received the body after the autopsy was completed so it was difficult to tell whether he had other injuries. He also could not determine the bullet’s entry or exit point.”

Hmm. Maybe that’s because an autopsy had already been performed by a doctor with expertise in the examination of body tissues and fluids. You know, a pathologist. Which he is not.


28 posted on 03/29/2012 5:06:57 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: aruanan
Bruises do not form (except for lividity) after death and certainly not over the course of a few minutes before death.

This bears repeating. Bruises form when blood is pumped out through broken capillaries. There was probably not enough time for bruises to form before Trayvon died.

29 posted on 03/29/2012 5:07:29 AM PDT by Paradox (I want Obama defeated. Period.)
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To: aruanan

So now a funeral director is a forensic expert. Give me a friggen break.


30 posted on 03/29/2012 5:10:11 AM PDT by Roklok
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To: SoFloFreeper
feh... what's the autopsy report say?
31 posted on 03/29/2012 5:14:03 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Doesn’t mean anything...

In my younger street-roaming days, I had some scuffles where I beat the guy to a pulp without getting a scratch on my hands.

Slamming someone into hard objects (like concrete) can do far more damage than your fists.


32 posted on 03/29/2012 5:24:14 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: broken_arrow1

heehee


33 posted on 03/29/2012 5:26:24 AM PDT by IrishPennant (Are you behind a "Blade of Grass?")
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To: SoFloFreeper

This story becomes more of a farce everyday. Absolutely ridiculous.


34 posted on 03/29/2012 5:27:19 AM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: socal_parrot
Of course, the fact that this should mean nothing means nothing.

Welcome to the USSA, comrade.

Please take a number .. your train will be here shortly.



35 posted on 03/29/2012 5:29:02 AM PDT by tomkat ( FU.baraq !)
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To: tomkat

I would prefer to read the coroners report rather than hear from a funeral director (no doubt hired by the family of Martin) before I would think this is relevant.


36 posted on 03/29/2012 5:44:50 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: SoFloFreeper

I’m embarrassed I actually watched this tripe. The good funeral director not only gave his expert opinion on the state of the body but also described this as the worst case of police work he has ever seen.

Nancy Grace is a joke.


37 posted on 03/29/2012 5:52:37 AM PDT by sox_the_cat
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To: tomkat

That pretty well covers it.


38 posted on 03/29/2012 5:54:53 AM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: Sacajaweau

First time I seen a funeral ad with a printable coupon: “Print this page to receive a free limousine service. We would match and beat any funeral home prices” I didn’t know WalMart expanded into the funeral biz.


39 posted on 03/29/2012 6:03:58 AM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
I wonder if it would be “Dr G” of Orange County.

Dr. G. will find that he died of a gunshot wound brought about by smoking cigarettes.

40 posted on 03/29/2012 6:14:57 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: SoFloFreeper

Apparently the “funeral director” never was man enough to have to fight someone when he was young and in school.

As an undomesticated male, I used to be in fights all of the time when I was young. I have since learned that the winner of the fight hurts as bad as the loser, but that’s another story.

In all of the fights I experienced as a lad, never have I showed bruises or cuts on my “white” hands. Believe me, they were used unmercifully on the ones I fought.

Now, let’s take a black person. His hands are black! How to you find a dark bruise on his hands? How about cuts? He would not have any cuts unless he actually punched the victim in the TEETH. You don’t cut your hands when you hit someone in the “snot locker.”

What a pathetic racial panderer both the funeral director and the MSM are when it comes to reporting the truth.


41 posted on 03/29/2012 6:26:24 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Zakeet

We are an independently family owned and operated business, serving the African-American community ...


Gee! I wonder if they serve the White-American community too? I guess not.

I wonder if they have ever had any type of discrimination suits filed against them?

I guess everyone can figure that one by themselves. If not, call me to buy some gold...we deliver in 10 days or less.


42 posted on 03/29/2012 6:31:02 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: SoFloFreeper

A copy of the contemporaneous, February 26, 20121 @ 03:26, police report regarding the shooting can be found at the Sanford city site at:

http://www.sanfordfl.gov/index.html

Also include are:
8 911 calls related to the shooting;
8 police reports regarding break-ins, including home invasion of young womens apartment by two “black males” at 11:00 am. She protected herself by locking herself in her bedroom. When trespassers are identified, they are black with one exception, a white with three black companions.


43 posted on 03/29/2012 6:32:37 AM PDT by BilLies (Ass.Press ABCBSNBCNN, NYTimes, WaPOSt , etc., hate your Traditional American guts!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Sounds like a guy who wants to keep his funeral business, instead of having it burned down.


44 posted on 03/29/2012 6:33:42 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

“I want you to use all your powers and all your skills.”


45 posted on 03/29/2012 6:35:06 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
I saw Nancy disGrace interview this guy on the phone. Here, a month later, the guy remembers the condition of Martin's hands. At the time, Martin was a news cycle nobody, but this guy specifically remembers. (Honestly, he had a hard time answering disGrace's questions meaningfully. One time he answered with his opinion instead of facts, and it was all hyperbole.)
Let's imagine that he actually does remember the condition of the hands: Why, considering that Martin says he was one-punched in the nose and then had his head bashed against the concrete, should Martin's hands necessarily be in particularly bad shape?
46 posted on 03/29/2012 6:45:07 AM PDT by Clara Lou (ABO! Go Newt!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Nancy disGrace uses dead children to make a living.


47 posted on 03/29/2012 6:47:05 AM PDT by Clara Lou (ABO! Go Newt!)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Palm strike. Hammer blow.

Both of these can protect the knuckles and delicate bones in the hand.

48 posted on 03/29/2012 11:52:01 AM PDT by nonsporting
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To: SoFloFreeper

Who gives a crap about the funeral director. What’s important is what the cops and coroner saw.


49 posted on 03/29/2012 12:07:18 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: SoFloFreeper

chain of custody issues abound. How do we know who had access to the body? Was this a set up in order to have this person give a pr testimony if it was going to be obvious the autopsy was going to be worse?

the state wide prosecutor is fishing for charges to sacrifice a man’s life for this junk?


50 posted on 03/29/2012 12:11:59 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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