Posted on 03/29/2012 10:15:53 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Just as an “aside” - someone on another board posted the link to the Ulsterman report (I know, I know) that the WH “insider” is saying that IF obamacare is knocked down by the SCOTUS, the WH is planning a healthcare “war” over the summer. I tried to post the link, et al. on here but was unable to do so as a new thread. If someone could post it, I think it’s worth reading.
Do the Supreme Court justices have body guards? Should they?
Two points:
The SC read all the briefs and knew pretty much everything they were going to know before the arguments were presented. There were no bombshells to change their minds.
It’s going to come down to Kennedy and Roberts - and it could very well go 6-3 to uphold the law if they decide not to get involved in a high-profile case in an election year.
Our only hope is that the two are still smarting from the SOTU speech where Zero criticized the SC to their faces and the Rats applauded.
A decision is not expected until June?
What a relief! Plenty of time to influence the Supremes...Michelle, hand me my Chicago Rolodex...
Of course, those adherent to a Constitutional Republic understand that a benevolent fascist state will cease being benevolent almost immediately, but the fascism only gets rinsed away with blood.
Embarrassment or not, killing this would be a political plus for Barry.
Get the albatross off of his neck and allow him to move on to other things. Plus he gets to demagogue Right Wing Extremists for tossing your 26 year old slacker off of your Blue Cross and taking away some poor student’s birth control. In turn that would free up huge numbers of Catholics to go back to pulling the straight party “D” handle as they’ve always done.
0bama is also going to foment racial unrest. As we know, that’s already underway in Florida.
This evil bastard is going to create a crisis a week until the election so he can divert attention away from his treachery. Fortunately, more and more people are seeing him for what he is.
So they might decide not to get involved, or they might operate on personal emotions.
You base this on what?
Could very well be the payback. The justices do not like publicly being made to look bad.
And the terminally arrogant Liar-in-Chief has offended many many powerful people in the past 3 years.
I think they have a passion to stick it to Obozo and will rule 5-4 to 6-3 to strike it down completely.
Thanks for the link.
Over the next few months leading up to the election we should see Americans abandoning the traditional news outlets in droves (CBS,NBC,ABC,etc). Fox News ratings will skyrocket as a result.
That they are human - OK maybe not Ruth, but I'm pretty sure about the rest.
Maybe. But all the GOP has to do to blunt the first is to put forward a market-based reform that includes the “slacker provision” and the ‘Rats can’t demagogue this as the GOP taking away health insurance from the under 26 crowd. And I’m not sure those put out by the abortifacient/contraceptive mandate will be quick to forgive even if it’s become moot. (An awful lot of the Latins who pull the D lever are folks like Pelosi who weren’t bothered by the mandate anyway.)
Get the albatross off of his neck and allow him to move on to other things. I don't see that. I think tossing this out puts the entire issue front and center for November because the question would be "what happens now"? And I think that dynamic actually hurts Obama, because the most obvious question for him will be "if you could just convert the mandate into a tax, the bill would be fine. Do you support that?"
So either he says he doesn't support his own concept, or he endorses something that voters hate.
Good points.
Bar9, you make good points.
I would add three comments:
1. I think the Justices were surprised at how poorly the Solicitor General’s defense came off;
2. Justice Kennedy has expressed concern for over-reaching and is not afraid to take a ocntroversial stance to protect the consitution - see Gore v Bush; and
3. Justices Sotomayor and kagan are NOT intellectually deep enough to sway Kennedy if he is in fact inclined to vote this mess down. In fact, they both - especially Sotomayor, came across a intellectual lightweights the past three days.
I'm afraid that if only the mandate is struck down, insurance companies will be forced out of the market because they cannot give guaranteed issue and meet community pricing and still make enough to cover costs, let alone make profit. This will leave us all no choice but to go into the government pool giving the administration what it wanted all along... single payer.
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