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Environmentalists take aim at toxic lead in ammunition [Birds love to eat lead?]
Kansas City Star ^ | 3/26/2012 | ROB HOTAKAINEN

Posted on 03/29/2012 1:37:10 PM PDT by AdamBomb

Using a canoe or her 10-foot Zodiac boat, Martha Jordan has scooped up hundreds of sick or dead trumpeter and tundra swans from Judson Lake in northwestern Washington state, the site of one of the worst known cases of lead poisoning among wildlife.

According to her count, at least 2,700 of them have died or needed to be euthanized since 1999 after eating lead from ammunition left in the wild by hunters. Jordan, a 62-year-old wildlife biologist from Everett, Wash., wonders why the federal government won't help more of the birds live by banning lead in ammunition.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; marthadumbass

1 posted on 03/29/2012 1:37:21 PM PDT by AdamBomb
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To: AdamBomb
According to her count, at least 2,700 of them have died or needed to be euthanized since 1999 after eating lead from ammunition left in the wild by hunters

I say BS!

2 posted on 03/29/2012 1:39:08 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Puppage

agreed...

EL


3 posted on 03/29/2012 1:40:46 PM PDT by Eureka_Lead (There shall not be a dictatorship when the citizens have firearms & Ammunition - Stay Vigilant)
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To: AdamBomb
The government is too busy defending the life of unborn babies to help the birds. Perhaps, they can be moved up to 2nd on the list.
4 posted on 03/29/2012 1:41:48 PM PDT by PosterPoster (That's nothing Fluke - Medicare doesn't cover ammo either. Now that's really fluked up!)
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To: AdamBomb
According to her count, at least 2,700 of them have died or needed to be euthanized since 1999 after eating lead from ammunition left in the wild by hunters.

This is a meaninless number. According to "her" approximately 208 birds a year have died from Lead poisoning. How does she get to this number? Does she count birds in one month, then multiply by 12? Birds in this lake, or nationwide? How many die from cigarette smoke?

We've been using lead shot for Centuries - yet, for some unknown reason the rivers and lakes and ground-water in the heartland of America is still fairly healthy.

I submit that far more birds die slowly and painfully of infected wounds caused by Steel shot than would have been killed instantly if Lead shot were still allowed in many states.

5 posted on 03/29/2012 1:42:57 PM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: AdamBomb

she should scoop up some of the bottom and show us the lead ,oh wait the birds ate it all . A lot of birds do die from lead poisoning every hunting season .


6 posted on 03/29/2012 1:44:31 PM PDT by molson209
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To: Puppage

How many have died from windmills?


7 posted on 03/29/2012 1:48:00 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Hodar
Steel shot was mandated for waterfowl 20 years ago ... any lead shot in those lakes is buried under 20 years worth of silt and mud.

I call BS on this ...

8 posted on 03/29/2012 1:49:22 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: AdamBomb

After this it will be fishing hooks. From there they will look to prevent road-kill. Fifty years from now it will be a crime to accidentally swallow a fly if our friends and neighbors don’t get a clue as to what these people are about.


9 posted on 03/29/2012 1:49:41 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: AdamBomb

BS on her claims...just sayin’!


10 posted on 03/29/2012 1:50:23 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: AdamBomb

Don’t birds eat small rocks for their gizzards?

How soluble is metallic lead?


11 posted on 03/29/2012 1:53:14 PM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: AdamBomb
Birds love to eat lead?

I don't know, but I like to eat birds that eat lead.


12 posted on 03/29/2012 1:54:46 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: AdamBomb
Rachel Carson, Martha Jordan - same sh*t, different names.

Note to all enviromentards: lots more than 2,700 birds are killed by windmills foisted on the public by leftards.

In legal terms, this should be a ‘de minimis’ issue.

13 posted on 03/29/2012 1:55:35 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: AdamBomb
This is merely the first salvo of a “Green” assault on the 2nd Amendment. It is more likely the waterfowl ate the fish that swallowed my sinker.
14 posted on 03/29/2012 2:00:53 PM PDT by LazloToth
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To: AdamBomb
This is merely the first salvo of a “Green” assault on the 2nd Amendment. It is more likely the waterfowl ate the fish that swallowed my sinker.
15 posted on 03/29/2012 2:01:11 PM PDT by LazloToth
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To: AdamBomb

Kill the windmills first.


16 posted on 03/29/2012 2:01:25 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: AdamBomb
Respect for ‘scientists’ is declining among those who are college educated. Too often these people push a liberal agenda with little regard for science. In short they ‘pis*ed away’ their respectability. If it's sad for them they can commiserate with unemployed members of the MSM... whose bosses did the same.
17 posted on 03/29/2012 2:11:54 PM PDT by GOPJ (Democrat-Media Complex - buried stories and distorted facts... freeper 'andrew' Breitbart)
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To: PosterPoster

The government is too busy defending the life of unborn babies? Huh?

The people are doing that, I believe.

The government wants as many abortions as they can get and me to pay for them —for political purposes only.


18 posted on 03/29/2012 2:14:01 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (Anyone not wanting an ID or purple thumb to vote isn't worthy of voting privilege.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota
I couldn't find much information on that but here is a study on the incidence of lead shot ingestion by waterfowl. It's a very detailed study (which is good but tedious to read) and from skimming it what I see is that the percentage of birds who ingest any shot, lead or steel, is very low. The percentage that ingest enough to get sick and die is even lower. It says on average a piece of shot only stays in their gizzard about 20 days.

A Review of the Problem of Lead Poisoning in Waterfowl

It doesn't say anything about proving that any waterfowl actually get sick or die from lead poisoning which would require tox screens of blood or tissue samples I am guessing. My take from that study is that it's a non-issue.

19 posted on 03/29/2012 2:15:41 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: AdamBomb

She is so lying. Judson Lake is a residential lake with no hunting or shooting. This is a total farce. Any sick swans are sick because people feed them from their docks. More liberal tricks here.


20 posted on 03/29/2012 2:25:29 PM PDT by trailboss800
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To: Hodar

Total BS! I have a lead bullet inside my pelvis, from being shot in a robbery, 38 years ago, and I’m just fine.


21 posted on 03/29/2012 2:37:05 PM PDT by carriage_hill (I'll "vote for an orange juice can", over Barry 0bummer and another 4yrs of his Regime From Hell!)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Precisely correct. Any lead shot in the lakes would have to be leftover from the pre-steel days.


22 posted on 03/29/2012 2:56:09 PM PDT by El Kabong1
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To: TigersEye

Yeah, here’s another, less technical article from a hunting perspective:

http://www.thesnipehunter.com/page19.html

I knew that hunters were sometimes required to use steel shot, but didn’t know the particulars.

I know that a lot of mountain streams pass through galena (lead sulfide) outcrops without apparent ill effect, but lead sulfide is apparently not as water soluble as elemental lead.


23 posted on 03/29/2012 3:05:52 PM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: LucianOfSamasota
...but lead sulfide is apparently not as water soluble as elemental lead.

That's surprising. At any rate the FedMob needs to get out of our lives and the EPA should be scrapped! Enough of their do-gooder meddling.

24 posted on 03/29/2012 3:45:05 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

Agreed. I should have used the /sarc tag. I fluked up.


25 posted on 03/29/2012 3:47:39 PM PDT by PosterPoster (That's nothing Fluke - Medicare doesn't cover ammo either. Now that's really fluked up!)
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