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EXCLUSIVE: Robert Zimmerman Interview (19 Minute Video)
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/trayvon_martin/032812-exclusive-robert-zimmerman-interview ^ | 3-29-2012 | Valerie Boey

Posted on 03/29/2012 2:00:36 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather

LAKE MARY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - For the first time since that fateful night on February 26, the father of a neighborhood watch volunteer who shot and killed an unarmed teenager sat down for a television interview.

Robert Zimmerman, father of George Zimmerman, said he decided it was time to speak out for his son, against the advice of others. He shared with us what George said happened on the night that 17-year-old Trayvon Martin died.

"It's my understanding that Trayvon Martin got on top of him and just started beating him," the 64-year-old Robert Zimmerman said.

He said he felt his son has been portrayed in the wrong way. He also said he and his family have received death threats and asked that we not show his face on camera.

Because there has been a lot of break-ins in the area, Robert said George thought it suspicious that someone would not be walking on the street or the sidewalk on a rainy night -- that Martin would be walking between the town homes. He said after making those observations, his son decided to call the police.

"He called the non-emergency number first, and they asked him where he was, because he was at the rear of the town houses and there was no street sign," said Robert

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: blackkk; exclusive; florida; georgezimmerman; interview; robert; sourcetitlenoturl; trayvonmartin; zimmerman; zimmermanfather
This reporter was just on with Hannity on his radio show. She confirmed Zimmerman's nose was broken, and he was injured. Absolutely confirmed.
1 posted on 03/29/2012 2:00:46 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather
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To: sheikdetailfeather
If they were struggling over possession of the gun, it may never be determined who actually “pulled the trigger”.
2 posted on 03/29/2012 2:09:00 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class!)
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To: sheikdetailfeather
She confirmed Zimmerman's nose was broken, and he was injured. Absolutely confirmed.

Somebody working for Zimmerman had better procure *hard copies* of all doctors' notes *and* X-rays.You just never know what might happen to them down the road...if ya catch my drift.Those notes and X-rays could spell the difference between him being charged or not charged.

3 posted on 03/29/2012 2:14:53 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter Is No Longer The Worst President To Have Served In My Lifetime.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Good idea! I hope they have a really good attorney.


4 posted on 03/29/2012 2:17:37 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather ("We Need To Teach The Establishment a Lesson" - Newt Gingrich)
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To: sheikdetailfeather
Zimmermans life I think is in trouble. I believe a lot of people in the liberal media (randi rhodes, ed schultz and more) will have blood on their hands if Zimmerman is murdered. From zer0 to J. Jackson the heat has been ramped up, bounties, pictures w/ cross hairs on His face... This is all LIBERAL America.

If He is murdered, This will be Democrat on Democrat crime, just like it started.

5 posted on 03/29/2012 2:17:53 PM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: reefdiver

Democrat = THE PARTY OF LYNCHING


6 posted on 03/29/2012 2:21:12 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather ("We Need To Teach The Establishment a Lesson" - Newt Gingrich)
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To: reefdiver
Good idea! I hope they have a really good attorney.

The Duke Lacrosee and Richard Jewell ( even though he died) never had to work again from the money Media and Duke gave them.

7 posted on 03/29/2012 2:22:58 PM PDT by scooby321
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To: reg45

I’m waiting for the forensic reports. As of now, its speculation. Either side can be argued.


8 posted on 03/29/2012 2:24:44 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: reg45
Have been thinking along those line the last couple of days. When the first officer arrived the gun was in the holster on Z’s waist. Because the officer took the gun he was in close enough contact to note the wet, grassy back of Zimmerman.

The cartridge was still in the chamber and several freepers have confirmed that it would automatically discharge unless some thing kept it from working.

Am concerned that LEO didn't take the necessary precaution and test on all of the evidence Zimmerman might need to prove the struggle and his innocence.

9 posted on 03/29/2012 2:29:36 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Stand with God and Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

The video tape creates that doubt about the injuries. We need that explained better.


10 posted on 03/29/2012 2:45:15 PM PDT by Fido969
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To: hoosiermama
The cartridge was still in the chamber and several freepers have confirmed that it would automatically discharge unless some thing kept it from working.

Do you mean the "casing"? A cartridge is automatically reloaded when an automatic works correctly.

11 posted on 03/29/2012 2:47:29 PM PDT by Fido969
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To: sheikdetailfeather

“time to speak out for his son, against the advice of others. “

Probably good advice not to say anything. On the other hand it appears Zimmerman has already been tried and convicted, all that’s left is the hanging... well of course they will have to arrest him before they hang him (or do they, have to arrest him first, I’m not sure anymore).


12 posted on 03/29/2012 2:47:43 PM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: hoosiermama
The cartridge was still in the chamber and several freepers have confirmed that it would automatically discharge unless some thing kept it from working.

Not exactly.

GEORGE ZIMMERMAN AND TRAYVON MARTIN: WHAT WE DON’T KNOW

It has been reported that the gun was recovered with a full magazine and that only the chambered round had been fired. This is a condition we associate with something preventing the gun from cycling a fresh round from the magazine into the chamber after the shot was discharged. One thing that can cause that is another man’s hand wrapped around the pistol, retarding its slide mechanism.


13 posted on 03/29/2012 2:51:28 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Fido969

I believe the reporter told Hannity the police have a pic of Zimmerman’s bloody nose. She said Zimmerman did not know his nose was broken until the doctor looked at it in the hospital. The hospital should have the records and the police would have the pics.


14 posted on 03/29/2012 2:56:23 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather ("We Need To Teach The Establishment a Lesson" - Newt Gingrich)
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To: Fido969; TigersEye
Don't know what I mean .....that's why keep asking questions from people on FR that know guns and particularly this model of gun.

It just hit me that something was very wrong concerning the firing of the gun...Plus the struggle over the gun....the gun being in the holster so soon after it was fired.

Just a gut feeling.

15 posted on 03/29/2012 2:59:06 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Stand with God and Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

“Even though a dispatcher told George Zimmerman not to follow Martin, his father said his son continued his pursuit to locate an address to give to police.”

Wrong, wrong, wrong! The dispatcher told Zimmerman: “we don’t need you to do that”. A suggestion — not a command. It’s a crucial difference & this is seriously bad reporting.


16 posted on 03/29/2012 3:15:39 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: hoosiermama
The cartridge was still in the chamber and several freepers have confirmed that it would automatically discharge unless some thing kept it from working.

The problem with your statement is that after firing no cartridge would be in the chamber if the slide was prevented from operating. Possibly the empty casing would be or it could have been ejected but the next cartridge in the magazine was not loaded.

The gun was reportedly found in the condition of having no live cartridge in the chamber and all remaining cartridges still in the magazine. That had to be due to incomplete cycling of the slide/bolt mechanism which can be the result of something interfering with its operation such as a hand on the slide or the barrel pushed up against an object ... such as a chest. More likely a hand on the slide. Pushing the barrel against an object can prevent a semi-auto pistol from firing at all.

Another problem with your terminology is that "discharge" means "fire" and a semi-auto does not and would not "automatically discharge" a round except for an extremely unlikely mechanical malfunction. That is not what has been reported to have happened. What seems to have been prevented, somehow, was the automatic re-loading of the chamber with a fresh round not a discharge.

As for the make or model of the gun virtually all semi-auto pistols operate in the same fashion regarding the issues described above.

17 posted on 03/29/2012 3:25:52 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Fido969

He was treated by a medic at the scene. Any medic would clean the blood off his face. I suffer from nose bleeds and have learned to clean my face within seconds so there is no sign of blood on my face. And I am no medic.


18 posted on 03/29/2012 3:27:14 PM PDT by freedomrings69
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To: hoosiermama
...the gun being in the holster so soon after it was fired.

That is just responsible gun handling and Zimmerman is said to have had four months law enforcement training with a sheriff's dept.

19 posted on 03/29/2012 3:28:25 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye
'The gun was reportedly found in the condition of having no live cartridge in the chamber and all remaining cartridges still in the magazine.'

Any idea who said that? It was never in any released police reports that I know of.

20 posted on 03/29/2012 3:54:33 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: freedomrings69

I agree, but we need to show that.


21 posted on 03/29/2012 3:57:14 PM PDT by Fido969
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To: hoosiermama
It just hit me that something was very wrong concerning the firing of the gun...Plus the struggle over the gun....the gun being in the holster so soon after it was fired. Just a gut feeling.

You don't carry a firearm, do you? There is no safer place for a handgun, especially when police will be arriving, than for it to be secured in a holster.

I would have to overcome my training to restore the weapon to operational status -- live round in chamber, not an empty case, if I knew this to be the case. Zimmerman appears to have either the presence of mind to leave the weapon as is (to bolster his case of self defense), or assumed it had it fact cycled fully. In any event all guns are treated as if they are

22 posted on 03/29/2012 3:59:55 PM PDT by nonsporting
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To: TigersEye
Thanks for the education...Have fired a shot gun a few times, but am ignorant of most guns.

Went back and read the police report. The gun was in the holster in waist band when officer took it. Is that normal too? Would it have been attached or “movable”?

(I suppose that would depend on the type of holster)

Was told by one freeper if it was still in holster when fired Z would have been shot in leg. ???

If I were being hit and having my head hit on ground I'd keep my hands up to fight off the blows or push assailant away. Not at my waist.
OTOH TM’s hands/arms were under his body not above his head.

Appreciate the links to the thread with discussion. It helped a lot.

23 posted on 03/29/2012 4:03:50 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Stand with God and Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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To: Theoria

Other than the article by Massad Ayoob I don’t know of another source for that. Ayoob is pretty reliable though so I suspect it is likely true.


24 posted on 03/29/2012 4:11:08 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: nonsporting
Uh....That's why I'm asking freepers in the know.
Always intended to get a gun, but my father and son are sure I'd shoot my eye out....They know me best. My next door neighbor has his own range I go watch. Most of my neighbors carry and say they'll look out for me.

My mother was a ace shot on Purdue rifle team. In fact they got confused because of the spelling of her name and tried to draft her.

She tried to teach me, but dad intervened.....I've forgotten everything I knew plus some.

25 posted on 03/29/2012 4:12:24 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Stand with God and Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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To: hoosiermama
It would depend on the type of holster. There are a lot of holsters with clips, like tape measures have, for clipping on your belt or waistband. An anonymous Sanford police officer leaked an account that says Martin saw the gun and went for it, according to Zimmerman, and they struggled for it. At that point you would likely move from defending against blows to trying to retain the gun.

This animation may help you understand better how a semi-auto is supposed to operate.

3D Glock Semi- Automatic Pistol (Function Animation)

Groovy music too! /s

26 posted on 03/29/2012 4:20:36 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: hoosiermama
We wont get the full picture until the forensic results are released.

However, some have suggested he shot TM while he was on top of him. That could very well have happened. I have my doubts.

GZ could have shot TM from a distance, and it still would be a justifiable self defense shooting. The problems, would be if he made any statements and if the science stated otherwise.

27 posted on 03/29/2012 4:21:41 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: hoosiermama
Here is an animation of the exact model Zimmerman had. And the music is a whole lot better! Really!

Animation of Kel Tec PF 9 Pistol Function

28 posted on 03/29/2012 4:23:20 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye

Thanks ...You all have been so kind.


29 posted on 03/29/2012 4:25:09 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Stand with God and Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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To: TigersEye; hoosiermama
-- An anonymous Sanford police officer leaked an account that says Martin saw the gun and went for it, according to Zimmerman, and they struggled for it. --

Some poster here, I forget who, speculated that Trayvon may have effectively "pulled the trigger" by trying to pull the gun away from Zimmerman's hand.

It may be that Zimmerman didn't intend to fire a shot, at all. But when faced with loss of possession of his gun, well, I'm sure his state of mind changed!

30 posted on 03/29/2012 4:25:29 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: hoosiermama

Not a problem. Lots of info going around to digest.


31 posted on 03/29/2012 4:27:56 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Theoria

Autopsy and some results should be back in a couple of weeks. It will answer a lot of questions if enough tests were ordered.


32 posted on 03/29/2012 4:29:09 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Stand with God and Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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To: Cboldt

That is very possible. If someone grabs for your gun it would be instinctual to try to grab it first and in the normal fashion of drawing it by the grip. Not much other way to grab it from a holster. It would also be instinctual to put your finger on the trigger (and a darned good thing to do when under attack). If someone pulled it towards themselves ... bang!


33 posted on 03/29/2012 4:36:09 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Cboldt; TigersEye
Think at comment is what started my questioning.

Second topic of question is where did the information on Skittles and AZ Tea come from. Couldn't find it in any police report or news release. Was it you cboldt that brought it to my attention that tea = marijuana. Well, did bit of research: Skittle and AZ tea are both street names for drugs. Skittles = ecstasy and AZ tea = marijuana laced with PCP.
Some one from the area when we were looking at the relationship of the 7-11/community said area
was known for its drug use.

34 posted on 03/29/2012 4:38:03 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Stand with God and Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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To: Cboldt
It may be that Zimmerman didn't intend to fire a shot, at all. But when faced with loss of possession of his gun, well, I'm sure his state of mind changed!

If the account that Zimmerman is alleged to have given to the police is true then he didn't pull his gun while following Martin. He didn't pull it when Martin confronted him and asked "you got a problem?" He didn't pull it when he was punched and knocked to the ground. He didn't pull it while being pummeled on the ground.

Only when Martin saw it in his waistband and threatened "you're going to die tonight" (however the threat was actually worded) and presumably tried to grab it did the gun leave the holster.

I would call that a lot of restraint on Zimmerman's part.

35 posted on 03/29/2012 4:45:32 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye

That is so cool. So the “casing” the flipped out of the top was still there in Zimmerman’s gun and it didn’t reload as pictured. If it works when police fire it didn’t malfunction but had an out side force stopping it.

Sure explains a lot. Thanks again.


36 posted on 03/29/2012 4:47:10 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Stand with God and Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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To: hoosiermama
-- Was it you cboldt that brought it to my attention that tea = marijuana. --

No, it wasn't me.

I haven't focused any of my attention on whether the skittles/tea were literally that, or if Trayvon was out getting dope. Toxicology will reveal if he was drugged up or drinking. I've come to my point of view on blame, based on his conduct, and reasonable inferences from the uncontested evidence.

If Trayvon was drunk or on PCP, it may have given him a sense of bravado that he didn't otherwise have - but that doesn't matter for the purpose of finding him to be the physical aggressor.

37 posted on 03/29/2012 4:47:23 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: TigersEye
-- I would call that a lot of restraint on Zimmerman's part. --

Yep. I think he was willing to take a beating - he knew the cops were on the way. But he wasn't willing to have his own weapon turned on him.

It is quite amazing, that the general public has been led to the conclusion that Zimmerman is a sort of thug. Out hunting prey, taking an opportunity to initiate force, etc.

The press is despicable. Usually, their mistakes can be taken as "funny" in a sense. Not this one. This isn't funny, at all. I'd have to restrain myself from spitting on Stepanopolis, Blitzer, Grace, Shepherd, et al if I saw them in public.

38 posted on 03/29/2012 4:54:06 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: hoosiermama
The casing may or may not have been ejected. Both are possible. But a fresh cartridge was not loaded into the chamber. That strongly suggests that an external force was applied to the slide to prevent a full cycling of it. Especially with a good quality firearm such as the one he had. I guess make and model do come into play in that respect although any gun can malfunction. A problem with the magazine can cause a malfunction in a perfectly good gun too.

IMO external force on the slide is the most likely explanation. More experienced gun nuts may disagree! ;^)

39 posted on 03/29/2012 4:57:14 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Cboldt
You have no idea how much I agree with you about the press. All worthless bottom feeders.

My impression of George Zimmerman from all the accounts I have seen is that the last thing he would want to do is shoot someone. He seems like a rather soft-hearted person to me. He tutors children he helps neighbors he watches out for them. His apparent restraint fits.

40 posted on 03/29/2012 5:11:06 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye
-- ... about the press. All worthless bottom feeders. --

If only they were worthless. They are worse than worthless. They are powerful forces actively undermining a fair and honest social contract.

41 posted on 03/29/2012 5:15:57 PM PDT by Cboldt
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