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(Vanity) My 8-yr old got an F on assignment for not knowing "Human Rights" and "Tolerance"
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Posted on 03/29/2012 7:51:55 PM PDT by indianrightwinger

I was checking my 8-yr old son's classwork assignment grades. He was so demoralized that he was getting C, D and F on many assignments. I was shocked and delved deeper. Turns out he is assiged a letter grade on these assignments even though he is "making progress" getting up to 70 or even 80 percent of the questions right. Worse, he was assigned an F grade on an assignment because he did not get the meaning for terms "Human Rights" and "Tolerance".

WTF is an 8-yr old supposed to know this shtuff?

Damn....I am seriously considering pulling him out of school and home schooling.


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To: dsrtsage
The next day, as we got started, I asked him how his teacher explained how to do it. I was entertained with the most complicated explanation I had ever seen. I proceeded to show him the simple steps I had formulated in my head the night before, and one hour later he had fully got it. He was amazed that in one hour I made him fully understand with simple concise rules what his teacher was unable to explain in 3 weeks.

I tutored a sophmore in high school recently in mathematics, chemistry and cellular biology. I was utterly appalled at how convoluted the teacher's procedural explanations were in math, and how crazily the subject matter bounced around - yet demanded ridiculous levels of detail - in chemistry and cellular biology. There was simply no way for the student to grasp functional relationships, because they seemed to be deliberately destroyed by the curriculum organization, which demanded rote memorization of thousands of apparently disconnected facts.

It was so extreme, it was evil - teaching, in order to prevent comprehension. ALL of the students had private tutors (no surprise). And this was at a highly accredited high school in a wealthy area. It's just madness.

41 posted on 03/29/2012 9:09:45 PM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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To: indianrightwinger

I was confronted with this bull twenty plus years ago. homeschooling or private school was not an option.

My actions

We all can make a difference one person at a time. And I encourage you to do the same.

NEVER be confrontational. Always be calm when confronting the teachers and administrators. They stop listening and you get branded a crazy forever.

Monitor and review your childrens school work weekly. Never raise your voice or hit your head on the wall. The kids do not understand and it only scares them.

Never talk above their head but always talk to them on their level of understanding

Arm yourself with knowledge regarding the subject matter they are teaching. Learn how THEIR system works. Not the way you think it should work. (remember . . . do not hit your head on the wall. It only hurts you and hard to explain to the neighbors)

Slowly but surely begin objecting to the study material and teaching material in a sane and reasonable manner. Offer solutions . . . calmly

You will NOT see results for a long time.

Many many years later I can look back and smile and say to myself, a difference was made.

one person at a time, one word at a time and shall i dare say in the spirit of love of the Christian doctrine


42 posted on 03/29/2012 9:11:55 PM PDT by saywhatagain
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To: indianrightwinger

They aren’t supposed to know antyhing about human rights because it is all liberal bullshit.


43 posted on 03/29/2012 9:13:37 PM PDT by Ajnin (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnocet!)
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To: indianrightwinger

Just do it.


44 posted on 03/29/2012 9:30:20 PM PDT by agrarianlady
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To: indianrightwinger

Here in WI, there is no way in hell I’d have a kid in a public school. No way. Home school or Christian school only. Public schools are nothing more than socialism factories funded by force using the property tax. What a scam. They’re the mob,taking our money by force, using it to “educate” children, while they all get rich off overburdened taxpayers. Bunch of freakin’ leeches. (wait, let me tell you how I really feel about public school employees....)


45 posted on 03/29/2012 9:34:13 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." T. Jefferson (I AM ANDREW BREITBART))
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To: indianrightwinger

“Damn....I am seriously considering pulling him out of school...”

Be thankful that you’re finding out early enough to give your kid a chance at life. Many of us out here have been SCREAMING for people to give up the granite and the plasma and get their kids out of those institutions. Of course we’re laughed at, since bad schools ONLY exist in ‘other’ neighborhoods.


46 posted on 03/29/2012 9:35:07 PM PDT by BobL (I don't care about his past - Santorum will BRING THE FIGHT to Obama)
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To: Shadowstrike

Do you really think that there is a textbook for social justice for third graders? The curriculum is probably supplied through the union with the help of some community organizing group.


47 posted on 03/29/2012 9:49:03 PM PDT by Eva
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To: indianrightwinger

“Tolerance,” to lefties, means shutting down all opposition and shutting off their communications. The most intolerant people in the world are “tolerant” leftists.

My own daughter, when I was visiting her in college, told me they didn’t allow people to watch Fox news in their house. She still doesn’t understand the irony regarding tolerance.


48 posted on 03/29/2012 10:03:02 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: indianrightwinger

Tolerance is accepting a meaning for the word tolerance that does not agree with your own meaning...in other words, allowing what you disagree with. Did you find out what answer the teacher was hoping for? Maybe you could volunteer in the classroom a couple of half days a week for awhile and get a broader sense of what is going on there. Public school is no place for a kid these days though.


49 posted on 03/29/2012 10:04:53 PM PDT by Anima Mundi
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To: indianrightwinger

Pull him out, please. Many people know a lot about online and other kinds of excellent cirrcula (sp?).

The indoctrination will only get worse. You will never, ever regret home schooling and neither will your son.


50 posted on 03/29/2012 10:12:19 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: indianrightwinger

We don’t do global socialist “human rights”. We have constitutional rights. He needs to know about his country’s bill of rights.

Tolerance to liberals means celebrating the sexual behaviors of homos and the race hate doctrines of diversity. In America we demonstrate tolerance when we respect and protect the constitutional rights of everyone without regard to religion, sex and race or nation of origin. As Christians, we are supposed to treat others the way we would want to be treated. That is the way we do American-American tolerance.

You could also not really worry about his grades this young. He’s got a silly lefty teacher who is using a UN curriculum most likely.

If you can and he wants to do it, homeschool him. Put him back into the herd after middle school if you want to. Homeschooling is a lifestyle so be ready if you are going t o do it.


51 posted on 03/29/2012 10:39:04 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: indianrightwinger
Private schools are progressive indoctrination centers, and compulsory attendance is essentially holding by force, which would be illegal for a private citizen to do. I oppose public schools. That said, when my kids are old enough to understand (which I definitely think an eight year old is,) I will absolutely teach about human rights and tolerance - in their true sense.

“That all men are born equally free and independent, and have certain inherent natural Rights… among which are the Enjoyment of Life and Liberty, with the Means of acquiring and possessing Property, and pursueing and obtaining Happiness and Safety.”

— George Mason. Virginia Declaration of Rights, May, 1776.

How can you consistently want protect them from being broken by the progressive system, if they don't understand that they have their own rights and ends independent of the state. Without a true understanding of their own human rights, they can never defend themselves from the state. Your understanding of their intellectual rights is exactly what's inspiring your indignation at their forced indoctrination.

As for tolerance, my kids will be understand Kant's categorical imperative, and treat each human as a means unto itself. Without that understanding, how can they be empowered to get the state off their backs?

I'm the conservative’s conservative, but if we let knee-jerk responses to the progressive’s perverted use of these terms lead us to reject them ourselves, we surrender our ability to defend ourselves.

Look at what's happened with “civil liberties” over the years. Groups like the ACLU have been hypocritical and sacrificed the liberties of those with whom they disagreed for the benefit of those who advanced their agendas - take school prayer for example. A true understanding of civil liberties would restrict anyone from interfering with the prayer's right to pray, but the ACLU has repeatedly decided that forceful interference with the prayer's right to practice his religious rights somehow protected the rights of others (as if a right was the sort of thing that be weighed and traded on a utilitarian basis.) Irrational judges have made decisions like rewarding a trespasser damages for injuries sustained on the trespasee’s land, and now conservatives think worrying about our rights in criminal courts is wrong (even though it was the court's disregard for property rights that made such a decision possible. Now we, as conservatives, rally behind acts like the military commissions act, the patriot act, and NDAA because complaining about civil liberties makes us “one of them.” Just look at Lindsey Graham's “when they ask for a lawyer, you tell them shut-up” line.

Let's not sacrifice ourselves and our children in an attempt to reject progressivism. Let's empower ourselves and our children by espousing the values that made us a great country - freedom and liberty, which depend entirely on a true understanding of human rights and tolerance. And yes, get your kids out of the public school if you want them to have a chance at true freedom.

52 posted on 03/29/2012 10:57:25 PM PDT by JohnGalt1983
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To: wintertime
Do it. Do it now! It will only get worse.

Correct. The relentless indoctrination continues through HS

53 posted on 03/29/2012 10:57:25 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: indianrightwinger; ChocChipCookie
Greetings indianrightwinger:

If our children were school age today, we would homeschool. We even had to pull our children from one Christian grade school and switch to another mid-year. One bad school board decision towards hiring a substandard school principal makes a big difference.

From a college professor's perspective: excepting PC use, an Amish grade school graduate is better prepared for college than today's average high school graduate. Keep in mind, the Amish school teacher only has an eight grade education! Love your children: get them out NOW!

Another great resource is FReeper ChocChipCookie's SurvivalMom website, she has a great guide: My top 16 tips for beginning homeschoolers.

Cheers,
OLA

54 posted on 03/29/2012 10:58:12 PM PDT by OneLoyalAmerican (In God I trust, all others provide citations.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I’d like to point out that there are a lot of misconceptions about homeschooling, too. Thankfully, most of the homeschooling I did was overseas so I didn’t have to worry about an approved curriculum. Lots of teaching was done by practical application, for example, cooking. Cooking requires following instructions, learning about measurements, and if a recipe is halved/ doubled then math is involved. My daughter learned a huge amount of history by playing multi-player family games of Age of Empires on the computer. Researching who had what technology and the advancement through the ages was helpful in choosing what society to play to whip mom’s butt. LOL. Natural science can be taught on nature walks. It’s a lifestyle of making everyday activity a teachable moment, not spending hours at the kitchen table in books.


55 posted on 03/29/2012 11:16:45 PM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth.)
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To: indianrightwinger

sfl


56 posted on 03/29/2012 11:24:52 PM PDT by know-the-law
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To: indianrightwinger
kahnacadamy.org is a great resource for homeschooling/tutoring and it's free.
57 posted on 03/30/2012 2:55:16 AM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: wintertime

Your son is facing two fundamental issues: (1) how to get good grades; and, (2) how to separate the truth from what he is learning in school.

Getting good grades is easy. There are two types of tests most grade schools give: math tests and everything else. To do well in math, have your child complete every question in the book, even the ones in the back. For all ther tests, have your child create flash cards for all words and concepts and to memorize those cards before the test. It doesn’t matter whether the information on the cards is true or even makes sense.

To get good grades, always tell the teachers exactly what they want to hear. I bet that “Human Rights” and “Tolerance” were concepts taught in class or presented in the reading materials. Write them down, study the definitions, regurgitate them on the test. Easy.

Your job is to help your child separate the facts from fiction. Review the flash cards with your son and discuss the truths with him. Make sure he never calls the teacher out when the information presented in school is wrong.

My boys do very well in school following those rules. Sadly, they often have to suppress their views from classroom discussion. Maintaining conservative views while attending Manhattan private schools is not easy.


58 posted on 03/30/2012 6:00:15 AM PDT by Manhattanite
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To: Talisker
It was so extreme, it was evil - teaching, in order to prevent comprehension. ALL of the students had private tutors (no surprise). And this was at a highly accredited high school in a wealthy area. It's just madness.
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The parents were doing tons of afterschooling and private tutoring. The school actually sucked!

I am on Free Republic, nearly every day trying to get others to see that NO ONE really knows if a “highly accredited” government school is indeed “highly accredited” BECAUSE: ( I am shouting.)

AFTERSCHOOLING AND PRIVATE TUTORING BY PARENTS AND THE CHILD, HIMSELF, IS *** NEVER NEVER NEVER*** MEASURED!!!!!

It has **NEVER** been measured!

Fundamentally we may be spending up to a quarter of a million dollars per child for K-12 government schooling and NO ONE knows whether or not the schools actually teach anything. All that “help” with homework ( afterschooling really) and the child's own efforts doing projects and studying IN THE HOME, is likely the real education.

Government schools send home a curriculum. The real work of getting an education is done IN THE HOME!!

59 posted on 03/30/2012 6:41:06 AM PDT by wintertime (Reforming a government K-12 school is like reforming an abortion center.)
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To: TheConservativeParty
(wait, let me tell you how I really feel about public school employees....)
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I will **NOT** have a government school teacher or employee for a friend!

Recently, I made this decision. Government schooling is sooooooo **EVIL**, so harmful to the child, and such a threat to our nation's freedom, that I do NOT want anyone in my life that helps establish, run, or support it in any manner.

I wouldn't have and abortion clinic worker for a friend either.

60 posted on 03/30/2012 6:58:49 AM PDT by wintertime (Reforming a government K-12 school is like reforming an abortion center.)
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