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Republicans retreat on gay marriage
Politico ^ | March 30, 2912 | Jake Sherman and Anna Palmer

Posted on 03/30/2012 9:53:45 AM PDT by C19fan

ust a few years ago, House Republicans were trying to etch their opposition of gay marriage into the Constitution.

Now? They’re almost silent.

It’s been one of the swiftest shifts in ideology and strategy for Republicans, as they’ve come nearly full circle on same-sex politics. What was once a front-and-center issue for rank-and-file Republicans — the subject of many hotly worded House and Senate floor speeches — is virtually a dead issue, as Republicans in Congress don’t care to have gay marriage litigated in the Capitol.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; liberals; libertarians; marriage; rinos; romney
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To: rwfromkansas

What, you mean winning elections and consolidating power is potentially more important than throwing a litmus-test temper tantrum every time one’s favorite issue is temporarily out of the limelight?

Clearly you must be a [insert name of current Two Minutes’ Hate target] supporter!!! Zot the moderate!

(/s)


21 posted on 03/30/2012 10:44:18 AM PDT by sthguard (The DNC theme song: "All You Need is Guv")
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To: C19fan

Republicans retreat on gay marriage


They tried that strategy in Massachusetts.
It didn’t go well....

April 8, 2009
New Mass. Republican Party Chairman says party will no longer oppose same-sex “marriage”, abortion, other “social issues”
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/gen/09b/nassour/index.html

April 21, 2010
Mass GOP convention nominates most extreme pro-gay Governor & Lt. Governor candidates in history
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/gen/10b/gop_convention/index.html

Aug 4, 2010
Charlie Baker & Richard Tisei: a pro-family nightmare
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/govt10/election10/baker_tisei/index.html

Nov 4, 2010
Mass. Republicans lose ALL statewide & Congressional races
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/govt10/election10/general/results_statewide.html

Nov 5, 2010
Mass. Republican Party’s RINO strategy a big part of election losses in top state races
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/govt10/election10/gop_strategy/index.html


22 posted on 03/30/2012 10:45:23 AM PDT by massmike (Massachusetts: If they had just kept hanging witches a bit longer...........)
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To: C19fan

Now, as Bawney prepares to penetrate Hot Bottom (or whomever or whatever the perversion of the week may be) and call it “marriage,” the Romney leaning GOP is eager to send them a “wedding” present by caving. Hi ho and the household pets, farm animals and space aliens are NEXT!!! I would kvetch about Sodom and Gommorrah but even those towns had SOME standards.


23 posted on 03/30/2012 10:45:34 AM PDT by BlackElk ( Dean of Discipline ,Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Burn 'em Bright!)
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To: rwfromkansas
Not having active proposals on a matter does not mean you have stopped caring about it.

I guess you never heard the phrase "silence implies consent."

I stopped listening to much of anything these people say they stand for. Their actions speak so loud I can't hear them anyhow.

24 posted on 03/30/2012 10:50:30 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can be a Romney Republican or you can be a conservative. You can't be both. Pick one.)
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To: C19fan; pallis

Our current platform reads:

“Preserving Traditional Marriage

Because our children’s future is best preserved within the traditional understanding of marriage, we call for a constitutional amendment that fully protects marriage as a union of a man and a woman, so that judges cannot make other arrangements equivalent to it. In the absence of a national amendment, we support the right of the people of the various states to affirm traditional marriage through state initiatives.

Republicans recognize the importance of having in the home a father and a mother who are married. The two-parent family still provides the best environment of stability, discipline, responsibility, and character. Children in homes without fathers are more likely to commit a crime, drop out of school, become violent, become teen parents, use illegal drugs, become mired in poverty, or have emotional or behavioral problems. We support the courageous efforts of single-parent families to provide a stable home for their children. Children are our nation’s most precious resource. We also salute and support the efforts of foster and adoptive families.

Republicans have been at the forefront of protecting traditional marriage laws, both in the states and in Congress. A Republican Congress enacted the Defense of Marriage Act, affirming the right of states not to recognize same-sex “marriages” licensed in other states. Unbelievably, the Democratic Party has now pledged to repeal the Defense of Marriage Act, which would subject every state to the redefinition of marriage by a judge without ever allowing the people to vote on the matter. We also urge Congress to use its Article III, Section 2 power to prevent activist federal judges from imposing upon the rest of the nation the judicial activism in Massachusetts and California. We also encourage states to review their marriage and divorce laws in order to strengthen marriage.

As the family is our basic unit of society, we oppose initiatives to erode parental rights. “

This is the 2008 platform, which I think is the latest; I assume we’ll have a new platform in 2012, perhaps at or before the August convention.


25 posted on 03/30/2012 10:52:31 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: DarthVader
I think Politico constantly tries to get the knee-jerk conservatives into some nonexistent controversy to cause division and this is one of those moments.

Well, they're certainly empowered by the fact that what they are reporting about the consistent sellout of conservative principle by the Romney Republicans just happens to be TRUE.

26 posted on 03/30/2012 10:53:18 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can be a Romney Republican or you can be a conservative. You can't be both. Pick one.)
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To: Persevero

As if the “leadership” of the Romney Republican Party pays any attention to the platform.


27 posted on 03/30/2012 10:54:44 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can be a Romney Republican or you can be a conservative. You can't be both. Pick one.)
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To: C19fan

GOP nominates Mr Gay marriage himself

disgusting


28 posted on 03/30/2012 11:01:31 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: EternalVigilance

You are right that in many cases, they have failed the conservative cause despite supposedly championing it.

Certainly good cause to distrust them.


29 posted on 03/30/2012 11:26:41 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: wagglebee

You are dangerously close to a health/wealth gospel if you believe because we aren’t Christian anymore that’s the cause of our problems.

I agree with you that most likely there is a connection, but to attribute everything going just great all the time with ‘good morals’ is not biblical.

I have no quibble with you saying that a failing family core/social structure etc. will then lead to changes in values/loss of other morals etc. that ultimately could bring us down. It happened to Rome and could happen here.

But, you seem to go a bit beyond that there...


30 posted on 03/30/2012 11:32:34 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: EternalVigilance

I don’t like Romney winning the primary. But, why does he get all the blame and not the half-dozen conservatives in the race to try to challenge him?

If Santorum or Gingrich would have dropped out long ago, Romney could have been stopped.


31 posted on 03/30/2012 11:39:04 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: All; C19fan
Republicans in Congress don’t care to have gay marriage litigated in the Capitol.

Maybe... because it has no business being litigated in the Capitol? Marriage is a state issue, it's always been a state issue and should stay a state issue.

Amending the constitution isn't going to happen in the normal course of things since you'll never get two-thirds of both houses to send it to the states for ratification in this social-political climate.

Unless and until SCOTUS strikes down CA's state constitutional, Prop 8, as federally unconstitutional and/or they rule against DOMA, this issue is dead at the federal level where they have far more pressing matters like runaway deficits, a roadkill recovery and no budget in 1000 days.

32 posted on 03/30/2012 11:45:46 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Newt says, "A nominee that depresses turnout won't beat Barack Obama.")
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To: EternalVigilance; All
Ok, what would you have them do?

No sane person believes a marriage amendment, which couldn't get passed 10 years ago, can get passed today.

When Ronnie Shows (D-MS) tried in 2002, he failed. When Marily Musgrave (R-CO) tried in 2003, she failed. When Sen. Allard (R-CO) tried in 2004-2006, he failed. When Paul Broun (R-GA) tried in 2008, he failed.

To my knowledge they've never gotten cloture in the Senate to even vote on an amendment directly. The House has never gotten more than about 60 votes short of those needed.

The issue--a state issue--is in the federal court system working its way to SCOTUS. What do you expect House or Senate Republicans to do other than waste time?

Is the House Republican defense of DOMA before the courts, because Obama-Holder, refused "silence" in your lexicon? Give me a break!

33 posted on 03/30/2012 11:56:33 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Newt says, "A nominee that depresses turnout won't beat Barack Obama.")
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To: rwfromkansas
It’s a natural shift due to a change in times.

"Times" don't shift on their own. We're not Marxists; history doesn't move according to its own inscrutable dynamic. History changes because people make choices and take actions.

It would be foolish to run an election on social issues when people can’t put food on the table.

It would be foolish to worry about putting food on the table if human life and freedom are meaningless. If that's where matters are headed, then to hell with the country and all the rest. Who needs it?

34 posted on 03/30/2012 12:31:10 PM PDT by Romulus (The Traditional Latin Mass is the real Youth Mass)
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To: rwfromkansas; Dr. Brian Kopp; trisham; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Coleus; narses; Lesforlife; ...
You are dangerously close to a health/wealth gospel if you believe because we aren’t Christian anymore that’s the cause of our problems.

In the past four decades we have murdered over 53 MILLION Americans and when you consider that a large portion of them would have since had children, we have probably lost close to 100 MILLION people who would be consumers, investors, workers, taxpayers, etc. This has nothing to do with any health/wealth gospel, this is about the real consequences of population control and these consequences are compounded by the fact that we have programs like Medicare and Social Security that require predictable population growth.

I have no quibble with you saying that a failing family core/social structure etc. will then lead to changes in values/loss of other morals etc. that ultimately could bring us down. It happened to Rome and could happen here.

It already has happened here and hopefully it's not to late to rectify the situation.

35 posted on 03/30/2012 12:34:55 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: newzjunkey

Marriage is a natural law issue. That’s why it must be defended at every level of governance.

To support “laws” that violate the natural law is to destroy the rule of law, and thereby to destroy the possibility of being a free people, and of passing along liberty to our children and grandchildren.


36 posted on 03/30/2012 12:35:57 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can be a Romney Republican or you can be a conservative. You can't be both. Pick one.)
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To: rwfromkansas; wagglebee

This has nothing to do with prosperity Gospel. This is about two missing generations of workers, consumers, and taxpayers. This is about the social disintegration and staggering attendant economic costs that accompany the chaos wrought by sexual “liberation”. This is about the inability of any economy to bear the load of an aging population without succeeding generations for demographic balance.


37 posted on 03/30/2012 12:48:21 PM PDT by Romulus (The Traditional Latin Mass is the real Youth Mass)
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To: Responsibility2nd
I’d say that Jake Sherman and Anna Palmer are trying to bait us.

Judging by the tone of most of this thread I'd say you're right.

The GOP just had some big votes on the budget and oil subsidies this week.

Are they supposed to vocalize every issue every day? They've probably gone 2 weeks without saying anything about gay marriage so that signifies "consent"?

Sheesh...it's so easy for the MSM to dupe the right.

38 posted on 03/30/2012 1:21:10 PM PDT by what's up
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To: wagglebee; rwfromkansas
when you consider that a large portion of them would have since had children, we have probably lost close to 100 MILLION people who would be consumers, investors, workers, taxpayers, etc.

Or doctors, scientists, inventors... Perhaps one would have found a cure for cancer, lupis or some other currently incurable disease.

39 posted on 03/30/2012 1:33:17 PM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: rwfromkansas; wagglebee
America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within. - Joseph Stalin

"Socialism is precisely the religion that must overwhelm Christianity. … In the new order, Socialism will triumph by first capturing the culture via infiltration of schools, universities, churches and the media by transforming the consciousness of society." Antonio Gramsci - Marxist - teacher of Saul Alinsky

40 posted on 03/30/2012 2:01:10 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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