Skip to comments.Elena Kagan: How Can Giving a Boatload of Money to Poor People be Unconstitutional?
Posted on 03/30/2012 12:08:33 PM PDT by Kaslin
RUSH: I have the Elena Kagan sound bite. I know that I have total, 100% credibility with you. When I tell you something, you know it's true. But I want you to hear it. This was Wednesday at the Supreme Court during the third day of oral arguments on the constitutionality of the health care reform law. This is the most junior justice, Elena Kagan, a former solicitor general for Obama, who openly cheered the passage of Obamacare when it went through the House. And she then worked on its defense at the Supreme Court. She should have ethically recused herself. But she didn't. And here is her opinion, in the form of a question to one of the lawyers, doesn't matter who. She's talking about the commerce clause and coercion. She doesn't understand the argument that forcing people to buy health insurance violates the commerce clause.
This is a woman who taught law at Harvard. She was the dean of Harvard Law. Which means she's smarter than anybody else. She's smarter than the dean of law at Columbia and she's smarter than the dean at Stanford. She's just as smart as the dean over there at Oxford. There's nobody smarter. When you're the dean of Harvard Law, you're it. And she has no clue. She cannot conceive, she has no concept of the notion that the federal government cannot force citizens to buy anything. By the same token, the government can't force you not to buy anything. Works both ways. So the lawyers are talking about this using the term coercion, coerce people. This compulsory contract, which is an oxymoron. And she's frustrated. She doesn't understand why people don't understand this. She doesn't understand why people think this is unconstitutional. It's a mystery to her. You mean we can't give people health care? I don't understand. Here's how she said it.
KAGAN: Why is a big gift from the federal government a matter of coercion? In other words, the federal government is here saying: We're giving you a boatload of money. There are no matching funds requirement. There are no extraneous conditions attached to it. It's just a boatload of federal money for you to take and spend on poor people's health care. It doesn't sound coercive to me, I have to tell you.
RUSH: I am sitting here, if you're not watching on Dittocam you can't see me with my mouth all the way open, in stunned disbelief. Folks, this is why all week I have been urging you: Don't think they're smarter than you are. Don't fall for that. Don't grant them that. These are some of the most uninformed, ill-informed, arrogant, conceited people you will ever encounter. I'm not even gonna assume she knows what she's talking about. What it could be is that the federal government is passing the burden of Medicaid to the states. In Obamacare they are off-loading some of the costs to the states. They're demanding that states pick up Medicaid costs, and she is of the belief that the states are gonna get the money that the federal government currently spends on Medicaid, but they aren't. The states aren't going to be able to afford this. And unlike the federal government, they can't go print money.
They have to balance their budgets at the state. It's very difficult for them to even borrow. They do, they sell bonds and so forth, but it's not nearly as easy to deficit spend in the states as it is at the federal government. And Obamacare takes the money in Medicare and shifts it to the states so that they can show on paper that the overall cost on the federal side is not nearly as high as it really is. And to her, this is a boatload of money, what could possibly be wrong? A big gift from the federal government. Obamacare is just a big gift. We're giving this money, and there aren't any strings attached to it. Boatload of federal money for you to take and spend on poor people's health care. That doesn't sound coercive. What it sounds is clueless. I mean totally, genuinely clueless. And this woman's a Supreme Court justice.
Miss Piggy speaks!
Because you stole it from me first? Next question miss piggy,,
she has absolutely no integrity even listening to the case with her involvement in it.
on the second day she actually was trying to help the Govts lawyer as was Ginsberg.
Kagen is a complete idiot who has no knowledge of the constitution and maybe she needs to understand as a judge seeing as she was not one , is that she is supposed to give her decision after the evidence and arguments not help the lawyer and make it known she has already made her decision.
Anyone here know if this woman can ever be removed due to her activism and basically being an idiot?
she has no clue even how to be a judge.
I know she was not one before but one would have thought she would have recused herself but even after she didn’t she might have at least tried to understand that she is supposed to give her verdict after not jump to the defense and help them out .
Typical obama appointee, nothing matters except their agenda and lets rip the constitution up.
Didn’t obama say years ago that the civil rights period did not concentrate on the courts and that they should have done along with him saying the constitution is an article prohibiting Govt ?
Kagan clearly has no concept of the constitutional issue that the other justices were quick to grasp...if the federal government can compel individual citizens to buy health insurance they can compel them to do anything else and that fundamentally changes the role of limited government in the US Constitution.
This woman has no business being on the Supreme Court!
I had a young boy in my class today who told me he is leftist, but also a libertarian.
I try very hard not to “indoctrinate” anyone, but I told him that the two terms are not compatible. The government cannot “give” anyone anything without forcibly taking it from someone else. You cannot believe people should be free according to the Constitution and at the same time think the government should give out “boatloads” of money.
You either believe in freedom or coercive statism.
Kagan is dumber than a box of rocks. My apologies to a box of rocks. How this woman ever became a SC judge mystifies me. Oh wait - she’s an obama toe licker.
She surely should have recused herself, but, like most libs - she is cluess. I guess we all know how she will vote on this issue.
The wise lesbian speaks. A wise lesbian and a wise Latina, isn’t that special?
A butt-load of money? From Elena?
That’s a hoot! Thanks for posting it!
“a big gift from the federal government”
I get it now! The Federal government
is like a goose that lays golden eggs.
Elena Johnson is right. We would be foolish
to say no to free golden eggs.
Th United States would no longer be a “free country” by any stretch of the imagination.